Testoviron/EQ cycle.

[zony]

Hey.

My stats.
20, 160 lbs..1.70m

My first cycle was like this:
200 mg Deca/300 mg Primo @ week, but i started feel some sore at the niples after only 2 shots of deca, then i stopped it, at cont. with the primo. 6 weeks.I did not gain alot, but is so ripped..

I would like to gain some lean musclemass, and still keep my bf. low... The cycle should be mild, not to many sides...
What do you guys think of this cycle, as my second??
If this sucks, would any help me make a good one??

1 week 250 mg(1ml) Testoviron Depot/200 mg EQ
2 week 375 mg(1.5ml) Testoviron Depot/200 mg EQ
3 week 500 mg(2ml) Testoviron Depot/200 mg EQ
4 week 375 mg(1.5ml) Testoviron Depot/200 mg EQ
5 week 250 mg(1ml) Testoviron Depot/200 mg EQ
6 week 300 mg Primobolan Depot/200 mg EQ
7 week 300 mg Primobolan Depot/150 mg Winstrol
8 week 300 mg Primobolan Depot/150 mg Winstrol

When to start clomid??
Should i run nolva, all trough the cycle, or just if i feel sore nips?? how many mgs??

Thanks..

 

[IronFist]

You are not running any of your compounds long enough. Try 500mg. testoviron for 10 weeks and either 300mg. primo for ten weeks or 300- 400mg EQ for ten weeks. Start clomid 2-3 weeks after your last shot. Keep the nolva on hand, if you need to use it, 20mg. day should be plenty.

 

[Yellowbomber]

agree use the Test for 8-10 weeks and add Prov to the stack

 

[zony]

thanks ironfist.. Any more

 

[zony]

I had just readed "TO HEAVY FOR A FIRST CYCLE" and DCS says the test also works, even in only 5-6 weeks??

 

[zony]

This was what DCS wrote..


Could you explain the reason for this ? You are obviously very knowledgable so I would like your opinion. Eq takes about 3-4 weeks to take fully affect and so do most Tests unless you are using a fast acting one such as Phenyl Prop or Prop so if you use both the Test and Eq for 4 weeks each you would be stopping them right when they are starting to really kick in. Please correct me if I miss understand what you said.

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DCS

mustang, all the stuff works right away, this is a big misconception that it takes weeks to build up blood levels. At a certan point nitrogen balance starts to shift heavily in favor of growth, depending upon how potent the drug is. This can take a couple of weeks and people can mistake this for some period at which a critical blod level of a drug has been achieved. This is wrong. I could take test one week, eq the next, and so on indefinately, would this mean I wouldn't ever get steroid effects? Of course not. They would all be activating the androgen receptors and doing the other stuff they do.

Sust is one drug where full blood levels take weeks to build up, that is because 2/5ths of it is decanoate. Still this is not that much different than all other esters. With enanthate and cypionate, while you don't get full blood levels until 4 weeks dosing at a certain dose, you still get very hefty dosages 24-36 hours post injection regardless. THe difference between full blood levels and 24-36 hours post dose is probably like 15 percent tops. You can solve this problem, by front loading a heavier dose than you would want to run the whole time and you will get full blood levels of whatever dose, right away.

The idea that eq takes 3-4 weeks to fully give effects comes from it being taken in dosages of 300-400mg/week most often and the potency of the drug does not allow for dramatic results at those dosage unless it has been taken for a good period of time. The main reason I sugested switching to eq for 4 weeks os that this will soften the estradiol levels so that when you go to post cycle recovery, you have very little estradiol in the blood. the test will have already significantly altered nitrogen balance and caused a cascade of anabolics effects to occur in the body's DNA (mainly, cortisol activated DNA is shut off) so small amounts of eq are good to go right away.
anyway if you immeiately switch over to eq at week 5 you will have a lot of tes tin the system regardless for weeks5 -6