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Testosterone's importance as a metabolic modulator...

HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Pay careful attention to the last few sentences of this study.I can't tell you how often I hear guys stating that they'lose all their gains'from this or that product when they come off.Now some times it will be non-endocrineological(like anadrols effects on erythrocyte build-up that dissipates dramatically after cessation),but 9 out of ten times it is related to improper re-initialization of endogenous gRH/LH manipulations.Always be sure to use estrogenic suppressants as the androgens clear your system,as estrogen is the chief culprit in keeping T levels inhibited post cycle...

Testosterone deficiency in young men: marked alterations in whole body protein kinetics, strength, and adiposity.
Mauras N, Hayes V, Welch S, Rini A, Helgeson K, Dokler M, Veldhuis JD, Urban RJ
J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1998 Jun 83:1886-92

Abstract
To investigate specific effects of androgens on whole body metabolism, we studied six healthy lean men (mean +/- SEM age, 23.2 +/- 0.5 yr) before and after gonadal steroid suppression with a GnRH analog (Lupron), given twice, 3 weeks apart. Primed infusions of [13C]leucine, indirect calorimetry, isokinetic dynamometry, growth factor measurements, and percutaneous muscle biopsies were performed at baseline (D1) and after 10 weeks of treatment (D2); each subject served as his own control. Testosterone concentrations were markedly suppressed after 10 weeks of treatment (D1, 535 +/- 141 ng/dL; D2, 31 +/- 9). Leucine's rate of appearance (index of proteolysis) was markedly suppressed after 10 weeks of hypogonadism (-13%; P = 0.01) as well as the nonoxidative leucine disposal, an index of whole body protein synthesis (-13%; P = 0.01) without any changes in plasma amino acid concentrations. All subjects studied after 10 weeks showed a decrease in fat-free mass, as measured by skinfold calipers and dual emission x-ray absortiometry scans (D1, 56.5 +/- 2.9 kg; D2, 54.4 +/- 2.5; P = 0.005), and an increase in percent fat mass (D1, 19.2 +/- 2.5%; D2, 22.2 +/- 2.5; P = 0.001). Rates of lipid oxidation decreased (-31%; P = 0.05) after treatment, with parallel changes in resting energy expenditure (-9%; P = 0.05). Mean and peak GH concentrations (measured every 10 min for 6 h) and GH production rates did not decrease after testosterone deficiency, with an actual increase in basal secretion (P < 0.02). Plasma insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) concentrations did not change significantly after 10 weeks of treatment (D1, 227 +/- 44 micrograms/L; D2, 291 +/- 60; P = 0.08). Isokinetic dynamometry of leg extensors at 60 degrees and 180 degrees/s was also decreased after 10 weeks of hypogonadism. Total ribonucleic acid (RNA) was isolated from muscle biopsy samples, and ribonuclease protection assays were performed using human complementary DNA clones for IGF-I, IGF-binding protein-4, myosin, and actin. Ten weeks after Lupron treatment, messenger RNA (mRNA) concentrations of IGF-I decreased significantly, whereas there was a trend toward higher IGF-binding protein-4 concentrations, with no change in myosin or actin mRNA concentrations. In conclusion, testosterone deficiency in young men is associated with a marked decrease in measures of whole body protein anabolism, decreased strength, decreased fat oxidation, and increased adiposity. These effects of testosterone deficiency are independent of changes in peripheral GH production and IGF-I concentrations, even though im IGF-I mRNA concentrations decrease. These data suggest a direct effect of androgens on whole body lipid and protein metabolism.
 
Great post as always.

Huck - look at the test=bloat thread and give your 1.02
 
elite hot topic said:
Im sure this means alot but I dont understand all the #'s can you explain in english bro.

Low test=f*cked up metabolism,strength levels,and potential for building muscles mass...

Normal to High concentrations of test=Optimal metabolic/anabolic/strength building environment

:)
 
Why didn't you just say that in the first place.:D

j/k. Great post, thanks.

By the way Huck, I hope you know what you are talking about, because I read your post religiously - even if I am not smart enough to understand them.
 
so testosterone does have an effect on the body metabolism or just a deficiency of testosterone has a negative effect
 
Huck, this is very good.

WOuld you recommend the use of Nolvadex and or Proviron, after cessation even when not needed?

Or would you suggest Clomid?

Thanks
 
Sorry, I am asking if you think the use of Nols or Prov will help maintain gains as to limit the estrogenic effect somewhat.
 
artcarved said:
Huck, this is very good.

WOuld you recommend the use of Nolvadex and or Proviron, after cessation even when not needed?

Or would you suggest Clomid?

Thanks

Clomid/Arimidex combination would be the best to optimize post cycle hormonal environment to the utmost favorable scale,but if you can only afford one item ,clomid will fit the bill.
 
Thank You, I realize Nols and Prov are blockers, rather than inhibitors, but I wondered what you thought. Thanks for the info.
 
Great post Huck. Also low test levels has been linked to increased risk of heart disease and possibly many types of cancers. I've always have had good luck with clomid, proviron post cycle. Next time post cycle I'll add arimdex at .5mg a day to the proviron and clomid.:D
 
Low test=f*cked up metabolism,strength levels,and potential for building muscles mass...

Normal to High concentrations of test=Optimal metabolic/anabolic/strength building environment


Thanks again,:D
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


Low test=f*cked up metabolism,strength levels,and potential for building muscles mass...

Normal to High concentrations of test=Optimal metabolic/anabolic/strength building environment

:)

well shit, even i knew that. j/k

great post.
 
:karate: Just to add, if you've ever come of a real ANABOLIC BALL-SHRINKER and felt that achey pain in your testes, that there is what we call a bacterial infection. Not only is it painful, but it can also lead to cancer and/or CASTORATION.:chainsaw:
So remember get that T flowing as quickly as possible or you might be competing in a different class next time.
 
Wow, i didn't know being shut down would cause that much of a negative body composition change.
To summarise, after 10 weeks of testosterone suppression, the men lost an average of 2kg(4.4lbs) of muscle and gained 3kg(6.7lbs) of fat. Thats quite a bit...
PCT is extremely important.

Thanks,
good post huck
 
OMEGA said:

Another good read. I'll add it to my growing collection of research. I'll read anything especially if it pertains to test, good/bad sides of all compounds, ancillaries and pct.
 
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