testosterone enanthate

[pd01ag]

Hey Everyone,

First post here. Thought I would sign up here at elite since the other forum I belong to will not allow discussion of steroids. After much research on AAS I decided I wanted to try a cycle. Nothing crazy, just getting my feet wet. I decided on Testosterone Enanthate. I am planning on injecting 1 cc per week for 16-20 weeks. I purchased 3 ml bottles which will last much longer at that dosing, I just wanted to make sure that I had enough. My question is, will I see reasonable gains with a moderate dose like this? I don't want to get too big, too quick but I also want to see tangible results. Does anyone here have any experience with this dosing? I was planning on doing a 1/2 cc every 3-4 days but I was told it is slow enough releasing that I could just inject 1 full cc weekly (once per week). Is this correct? I should mention that I am 30 years old, 5'9, 200 lbs and have been training non-stop for 4 years, off and on for 10. My diet is currently 3000 calories, 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fat. Goal is to add lean body mass, if I start to gain too much fat I will subtract a few hundred cals and re-evaluate. PCT and anti-estro is all taken care of just in case although I don't see anti-estro being necessary with this dosing. Just being thorough. Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks

 

[lartinos]

2ml's a week with an AI

 

[pd01ag]

So you think I should scrap the 1cc per week and increase to 2 cc's? Is it pointless to try the low dose? I guess if I am going to do 2 cc's per week I should start taking arimidex along with it then, correct?

 

[25homes]

Assuming its 200mg or 250mg per cc then 2cc a week have adex on hand only take if you.need it. Also 10-12 weeks bro

 

[shibs]

250mg a week wont create an anabolic enough environment in your body. 500mg is golden. and it's better to do it twice a week, although with test-e once a week is manageable. and yeah arimedex at a low dose would help with bloat

 

[pd01ag]

Thanks guys I appreciate the help. I'm gonna go to 2 ml per week. By the way its 250mg/ml. So it would be 500 mg per week. I'm gonna go with that and see how it goes.

 

[25homes]

Will go great with proper diet and training assuming gear is legit

 

[zedhed]

Youre gonna need to increase your caloric intake too bro. Need to feed the deed bro if you wanna gro.
Keep it clean and you dont need to worry about gettin fat.
Good luck bro and enjoy.

 

[pd01ag]

Youre gonna need to increase your caloric intake too bro. Need to feed the deed bro if you wanna gro.
Keep it clean and you dont need to worry about gettin fat.
Good luck bro and enjoy.

You don't think 3000 cals is enough? I figure my maintenance to be somewhere around 2600 cals, keep in mind I'm an endomorph and I add fat by looking at food. How many cals would you recommend?

 

[pd01ag]

Also, someone mentioned earlier that I could get away with doing 1 shot a week but 2 is better. In everyone's opinion should I just suck it up and inject twice weekly? Lastly, from all my research, I see differing views on needle length. I have 1", but some people use 1.5" (injecting in ass region). Which is better? The guy I bought it from told me to use 1.5", but the drug store was out of them so I got 1". If I have to I will look around and find 1.5".

 

[gwr15]

YES! Take two shots a week. One on Monday and one on Thursday. 1.5inch needle is what you will need for glute injections. I would draw with a 22 gauge and inject with a 25 gauge. If you want needles go to the site sponsor Cheappinz.com they are the best and I have used them many times. They are very reliable and cheap. Good luck

 

[skaman007]

YES! Take two shots a week. One on Monday and one on Thursday. 1.5inch needle is what you will need for glute injections. I would draw with a 22 gauge and inject with a 25 gauge. If you want needles go to the site sponsor Cheappinz.com they are the best and I have used them many times. They are very reliable and cheap. Good luck

once a week jabs are fine with enanthate....the differnece is minute with blood levels if any..........

 

[zedhed]

At 5'9" and 200 lbs, running 3000 cals may be ok for you since you say you put weight easily. Try it at 3000 and see. If you arent putting visable size by week 5 or 6 increase cals. Do 10 min cardio pre workout as a general warmup. Then do 10 mon more immediatly after workout. You should not need any more then that while trying to gain muscle. I would try 5-6 meals per day with only one shake right after workout, the rest real food.
Good luck to you bro.

 

[jcb_phlps]

I pin my test cyp twice a week. I guess you could pin once but I would say at 2ml its might cause a little added soreness for your first cycle if you pin only once. These are good bros listen to em buddy. 500mg/wk will be perfect youll seen good solid gains and I dont think youll become a monster over night youll enjoy. I use 25 ga 1" needles to inject some disagree but I have a low body fat % at about 7-8% so even pining glutes it does fine. Good luck with your cycle bro keep us posted.

 

[pd01ag]

At 5'9" and 200 lbs, running 3000 cals may be ok for you since you say you put weight easily. Try it at 3000 and see. If you arent putting visable size by week 5 or 6 increase cals. Do 10 min cardio pre workout as a general warmup. Then do 10 mon more immediatly after workout. You should not need any more then that while trying to gain muscle. I would try 5-6 meals per day with only one shake right after workout, the rest real food.
Good luck to you bro.

This is basically what I do, a 10 min warmup and a little cardio after. Lifting 4 days a week with a routine written by a pro powerlifter. All my protein comes from food, lean turkey, chicken, tuna, eggs, egg whites etc. Its all logged on fitday and I weigh everything religiously. This has worked well for me milking natural gains but when they slow up it seems like nothing gets you moving. Doesn't help that I have just entered my 30's and I'm feeling like an old man! Hoping that this modest cycle will really help me add muscle and give me a sense of well being. Thank you for your reply, its appreciated.

 

[25homes]

I use 23-25 g in glute usually 1 inch like 23 better esp if using 1 1/2 in too easy to bend

 

[pd01ag]

I pin my test cyp twice a week. I guess you could pin once but I would say at 2ml its might cause a little added soreness for your first cycle if you pin only once. These are good bros listen to em buddy. 500mg/wk will be perfect youll seen good solid gains and I dont think youll become a monster over night youll enjoy. I use 25 ga 1" needles to inject some disagree but I have a low body fat % at about 7-8% so even pining glutes it does fine. Good luck with your cycle bro keep us posted.

Thanks for the advice. My only concern was jumping right in without assessing how my body reacts to this particular substance. Thats why I was thinking of only doing 1 cc, but if its pointless I'm just wasting my money. The muscle gain cannot be too obvious because I'm Italian, and well we have family events weekly. If I show up at my parents house and in 3 weeks I'm 20 lbs heavier everyone will know, and I just don't wanna deal with it. As for the needles, as I understand it, I have to get through the fat and into the muscle so I better go with 1.5" because I'm not as lean as you. I would say I'm roughly 15% body fat. Once again, thanks for taking the time to post, this is my first go at this and I have been nervous and excited at the same time but I needed somewhere to come and discuss because people have a negative attitude towards steroids.

 

[pd01ag]

I use 23-25 g in glute usually 1 inch like 23 better esp if using 1 1/2 in too easy to bend

I actually have 23 guage 1 inch needles right now because the pharmacy I went to didn't have 1.5". I was gonna go out to a few different pharmacies and see if I could get the 1.5". Am I splitting hairs here? Does it really matter?

 

[GrownUp]

500 mg you will start to feel stronger by week 4-5, you will also start getting that watery look by then, if you don't get those itchy nipples, try not to use the AI it is pointless, u will lose the water through PCT, you do have a PCT lined up right? Also 1" needles are only good for the calves that's it! U will need 1.5" long if you want it anywhere else, also don draw and inject with the same syringe, they go dull quickly, gaining weight with steroids is not that noticeable buddy! Unless (HA!) unless you really go to work at the gym, dial in with your diet and you will still be left thirsty as hell for the next cycle! By your third or fourth cycle u will notice those remarkable results you think you are going to get on your first, no hating you will notice some difference, but not enough that people will be like, Oh Man, you're On Steroids Aren't Cha!! that's my 2 cc's on that...

 

[pd01ag]

I'm on my first test cypionate cycle, 500mg per week, for 10 weeks. I bought a vial of cypionate, and a vial of enanthate, but they are almost identical in half life. I'm a 43 year-old chemist, been training for 20 years.

I'm midway through, just finished the 10ml cyp vial and swapped to enanthate.

The first injection aches for days, then the second in the same site aches a little bit, then after that, - nothing. Inject slow into your glute, taking 30 seconds or more to press the plunger, and you will minimize the ache the next day. You have two bum cheeks, so each cheek only has to handle one jab per week of 1ml.

After 5 weeks I have a little water retention, but not enough to bother with anything to combat it - although I've just added proviron to my cycle.

One thing to watch out for is zinc deficiency. You need zinc to rebuild muscle cells, and it's hard to get enough in food when you are training hard. It's the most common mineral deficiency amongst athletes, and the population at large - but particularly in men

All that test makes you horny, so you will be cumming a lot, and losing even more zinc. I felt achey and burned out last week, every muscle hurt, even ones I hadn't trained, and particularly my lower legs. I couldn't sleep,so I got up, took 3 ZMA capsules on a hunch, and I was absolutely fine within the hour. I guess I had chronic zinc deficiency.

Anyone reading this - high testosterone = hard training + more sex = zinc deficiency. If you hit an unexplained wall on test, try ZMA. It will be obvious straight away if you had a zinc or magnesium deficiency.

Thanks for the heads up. My current supplements are a multi vitamin, vitamin c (1000 mg twice daily), 5 grams fish oil, and cal, mag, zinc supplement so I am assuming I should be fine. Thanks once again for posting, nice to have people warn you in advance.

 

[pd01ag]

500 mg you will start to feel stronger by week 4-5, you will also start getting that watery look by then, if you don't get those itchy nipples, try not to use the AI it is pointless, u will lose the water through PCT, you do have a PCT lined up right? Also 1" needles are only good for the calves that's it! U will need 1.5" long if you want it anywhere else, also don draw and inject with the same syringe, they go dull quickly, gaining weight with steroids is not that noticeable buddy! Unless (HA!) unless you really go to work at the gym, dial in with your diet and you will still be left thirsty as hell for the next cycle! By your third or fourth cycle u will notice those remarkable results you think you are going to get on your first, no hating you will notice some difference, but not enough that people will be like, Oh Man, you're On Steroids Aren't Cha!! that's my 2 cc's on that...

I do have a pct already worked out and I possess what I plan on using. I am being looked after by a pro power lifter routine and diet wise so everything is fairly dialed in. Good to know that I don't have to worry about my family accusing me! Thanks for the info on needles, I ran out and managed to pick up 22 guage 1.5".

 

[GrownUp]

I do have a pct already worked out and I possess what I plan on using. I am being looked after by a pro power lifter routine and diet wise so everything is fairly dialed in. Good to know that I don't have to worry about my family accusing me! Thanks for the info on needles, I ran out and managed to pick up 22 guage 1.5".

Yeah 22 - 1.5¨ is ´perfect, good luck man, you seem to have things well under control, keep it up!!

 

[pd01ag]

Yeah 22 - 1.5¨ is ´perfect, good luck man, you seem to have things well under control, keep it up!!

Thanks for the help its appreciated!