Testosterone Enanthate

[Bird Man]

Alright so thankfully there are experienced people on this forum, else i would of been in trouble!

I was looking to do a cycle of EQ as my first, but decided against it once i herd people tell me how stupid it was.

So now, im going to do Test Enanthate as my first cycle and was wondering if i would see much of an effect taking it at 300mg a week? So 2 shots of 150mg twice a week.

Considering its my first cycle, di you feel that would be effective?

For those of you who don't no, im 22 years old, 6ft 3 and about 195 pounds (91kg).

How much could i expect to put on with that ammount. Just a ball park figure!

 

[jtrulow899]

Well. If your eating right, getting enough sleep and workout hard then you could add 20 qualtity lean mass pounds.

 

[thebigoz]

You could bump that up to 500mg each week.

But apart from that, it's going to come down to diet. If you aren't eating right, then you won't make worthwhile gains.

 

[Bird Man]

Yeha i understand i can do 500mg, but i would like to keep it a little lower. Just wondering if i would see noticeable gains at 300mg a week?

 

[ALIN]

Well. If your eating right, getting enough sleep and workout hard then you could add 20 qualtity lean mass pounds.

YOUR correct,,if you do it right the gains will come. My ealry years was basically the same and I made fine gains

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I'm glad you decided to take everyones advice.

300mg wk is considered low by todays standards. However there is nothing wrong with it. My first was 250mg wk. Inject .5ml 2 x weekly for nice even blood levels and enjoy yourself.
Keep tabs on your BP. Get some arimidex or aromasin just incase, though I doubt seriously you will need them at 300mg weekly. Watch your sodium so you dont retain alot of water.
Your gains will solely revolve around your diet.

 

[Bird Man]

No problem! I realised i was being an idiot with the EQ and woke up to myself. No single steroid will gaurentee you no sides, and at the end of the day you need to be 100% sure you want to do it, regardless of the sides thats may occur.

Im purchasing a 10mil vial in the next few days, which is 2500mg's. What would be the best way to take this?

250mg a week for 10weeks? Or 300 mg's a week for 8 weeks?

Supposing that my diet is intact and i get alot of sleep, etc. What can i expect from this? And i no its hard to give an answer to this but just a ball park figure!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

No problem! I realised i was being an idiot with the EQ and woke up to myself. No single steroid will gaurentee you no sides, and at the end of the day you need to be 100% sure you want to do it, regardless of the sides thats may occur.

Im purchasing a 10mil vial in the next few days, which is 2500mg's. What would be the best way to take this?

250mg a week for 10weeks? Or 300 mg's a week for 8 weeks?

Supposing that my diet is intact and i get alot of sleep, etc. What can i expect from this? And i no its hard to give an answer to this but just a ball park figure!

I think you will find it a real pain to try and measure that other 50mg on a syringe.
if the test your getting is 250mg/ml then you may want to go 1ml every 5 days instead. Or go .75 ml 2 times weekly. Which would be 375mg wk. not trying to get you to take more, just trying to make things easy. Trying to measure real small amounts can be a pain in the ass. In the end, my choice would be the 375mg split 2 x week. The extra 75mg isnt real huge. Either way, I would buy 2 10ml vials. You never know, you could drop one, or somehow waste a ml. Believe me shit does happen. Better to have a little extra than just enough.

 

[Bird Man]

Yeah thats heaps good advice.

Thing is, i can get test enth in a matter of hours if i require it! So i was hoping to be economical and buy one vial of 10mil and then spend the rest on a well planned out PCT.

So considering i do buy one 10ml vial, what woul dbe the best way to take it? How much do you think i could gain?

Thanks again for making me see how stupid i was to contemplate taking EQ!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Yeah thats heaps good advice.

Thing is, i can get test enth in a matter of hours if i require it! So i was hoping to be economical and buy one vial of 10mil and then spend the rest on a well planned out PCT.

So considering i do buy one 10ml vial, what woul dbe the best way to take it? How much do you think i could gain?

Thanks again for making me see how stupid i was to contemplate taking EQ!

Honestly, if your going to just go 250mg, then I would inject 1ml E5D. That will keep your blood levels nice and high. Again results are really hard to speculate. My first cycle, my weight never changed. But all the fat I had was exchanged for muscle. I was on more of a cut style diet (not on purpose) So I was totally shredded after cycle.
If you want 20 lbs you should be able to do it. If your eating like a horse that is. Hit up the diet forum and they will help you dial it in. I would hit the training forum and post your split and routine and let them go through it also.

Theres nothing wrong with EQ. Just not alone. Or a first cycle. You can use it your second cycle. Yeah yeah.....I know what you said. But we can talk about that when your planning your second cycle.

 

[Bird Man]

Thanks so much for your help!

Will definetly begin to start planning the diet out now. That is definetly going to be key for the gains i make.

Think i will stick with probably 250mg a week for 10 weeks. Iv been doing alot of searching on this forum and some experienced posters seem to think its a good dosage to take for your first cycle. Supposing that my diet and workouts are perfect, im just worried that this dose is going to be to small to notice any real gains.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Great to hear you have changed your mind mate.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/m...nal/first-ever-cycle-test-e-d-bol-650065.html
Here's a lonk of a guy doing a 250mg wk cycle now , and is getting awesome results .

Remember to ask anything you need a hand with .

Brad.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

The user 'bird man' has been gifted a platinum membership!

This should help you out with your search for info mate good luck .

Brad.

 

[Bird Man]

Perfect!

I will definetly keep a daily log once i start my cycle which will most probably be next week. I will include pictures, etc for all.

I don't want to take anything else but test enth. No D-Bol, just straight test.

Will this make a significant difference? Or can i still expect to see decent gains?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

You will see vn gains , just eat train and sleep smart .

Brad.

 

[shoestring2]

300mg/wk of real human grade test is plenty for a first , second, or third cycle.

 

[Bird Man]

Wow! This is the best news iv herd all day. Means i save myself $250 Aus.

Would i be best doing 250 a week for 10 weeks? Or 300 a week for 8weeks?

Probably sounds like a stupid question, though i was just wondering, does lets say 8kgs you gain off steroids make a noticeable difference? I just wonder how different someones body looks after it!

Thanks again! You guys are the best! ha

 

[slimjim1985]

if your tall and lanky, for sure it will. I used to be semi big for my 6'3", lost it all...started back up and people noticed. its a good feeling when you see someone you havn'et seen for awhile and the first thing they say DAMN! your big. But the creatine excuse will only work for so long.

 

[Bird Man]

Ha! Yeha can't wait. So excited to start.

But i no keep repeating myself, though would it be better to run 250mg a week for 10 weeks? Or 300mg a week for 8weeks?

 

[The last dragon]

I am 6.6, and my first cycle consisted of Test 500mg and EQ 600mg, grew from 255lbs to 310lbs. Remember bro, this is your first cycle, and since your body is not well acqainted with exogenous testosterone, it will respond amazingly. So, in short, this first cycle could be your best. Though my opinion differs from others on here, if your finicail status is not impeding your gear inventory, I would at least do 500mgs a week. But it also depends what your goals are, I wanted to become a monster, and I did. If you just want some more muscle, a more defined look, then you will be fine with 300mg a week.

 

[slimjim1985]

I am 6.6, and my first cycle consisted of Test 500mg and EQ 600mg, grew from 255lbs to 310lbs. Remember bro, this is your first cycle, and since your body is not well acqainted with exogenous testosterone, it will respond amazingly. So, in short, this first cycle could be your best. Though my opinion differs from others on here, if your finicail status is not impeding your gear inventory, I would at least do 500mgs a week. But it also depends what your goals are, I wanted to become a monster, and I did. If you just want some more muscle, a more defined look, then you will be fine with 300mg a week.

damn! how long, 12 weeks?

 

[Bird Man]

Alright so i have opted for a 10week cycle of 250mg a week, which will be 2 shots of 125mg each week.

I am so worried that i will be wasting my money with such a small amount. Iv been researching all day and there are so many mixed reviews. Some people swear by 500mg a week, whilst others strongly suggest no more hten 250mg for a first cycle! aghh!

 

[slimjim1985]

its all what you wanna do homie. i believe in 500 mg/week for the best gains. but you can gain alot off 250mg/week. honestly, when I was younger, I ran a winstrol only cycle for 5 weeks. (yes I know) But being it my first cycle, I gained 15 lbs which was good at the time but now looking back, I could of gained tons more if done properly, with a test base and so forth. So ya you'll gain alot, but more might do ya better, you never know.

 

[Bird Man]

its all what you wanna do homie. i believe in 500 mg/week for the best gains. but you can gain alot off 250mg/week. honestly, when I was younger, I ran a winstrol only cycle for 5 weeks. (yes I know) But being it my first cycle, I gained 15 lbs which was good at the time but now looking back, I could of gained tons more if done properly, with a test base and so forth. So ya you'll gain alot, but more might do ya better, you never know.

Oh wow, thats impressive!

Yeah i want about 8kg's so im willing to do anything to get that! Hopefuly 250mg a week is enough for this i hope.

 

[GOLUAN]

In my honest opinion. Ive made my mistakes and learned. With Eq anything under 500mg is a waste of time and money. You have to run Eq for atleast 500mg and 14 weeks to see a decent change in your body and strength. I get impatient with the stuff.....You should run some test with the stuff...you will be happier...trust me...

 

[hesnobradpitt]

10 wks of 250mg mate and you will get your 8kg if you eat ,

put up your diet and lets see it , we can make sure its ok .
Plus i can send you one for your goals , are you Aussie ?

Brad.

 

[Bird Man]

Wow! Thanks for so much help Brad!

Yes im from Australia and can not wait to start! If you have a diet that would match my goals of gaining weight it would be fantastic! I promise i will log all my results on a daily basis to give my bit back to the forum!

Thanks so much for all this help.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Ok I'll send you a nice lean bulker , an hit up the diet section to mate .
Always nice to see new Aussie's around, there is quite alot of us at ef .

Brad .

 

[2evil]

What a great newbie. Listening to advise, being respectful and thinking things out. K to you!

 

[2evil]

Honestly, if your going to just go 250mg, then I would inject 1ml E5D. That will keep your blood levels nice and high. Again results are really hard to speculate. My first cycle, my weight never changed. But all the fat I had was exchanged for muscle. I was on more of a cut style diet (not on purpose) So I was totally shredded after cycle.
If you want 20 lbs you should be able to do it. If your eating like a horse that is. Hit up the diet forum and they will help you dial it in. I would hit the training forum and post your split and routine and let them go through it also.

Theres nothing wrong with EQ. Just not alone. Or a first cycle. You can use it your second cycle. Yeah yeah.....I know what you said. But we can talk about that when your planning your second cycle.

I agree with this. Don't be locked into a certain number of weeks. 1ML every 5 days will keep you nice an level. Just plan it out on a calendar along with your PCT and you'll be good to go!

 

[Bird Man]

Alright then! 1mil every 5 days it is then. So you think this will be better then .5mil ever 3.5 days? I no its hard to measure out .5mil but there are ways around it.

I can't wait to start. Looks like i will be jumping on with a friend this monday. Heres to hopefuly putting +5kgs on! ha

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Alright then! 1mil every 5 days it is then. So you think this will be better then .5mil ever 3.5 days? I no its hard to measure out .5mil but there are ways around it.

I can't wait to start. Looks like i will be jumping on with a friend this monday. Heres to hopefuly putting +5kgs on! ha

Yes the e5d is a perfect way to do it .

.

Brad.

 

[Bird Man]

Brad don't mean to be pushy but is there any chance i could grab that diet off you?

 

[Bird Man]

Can anyone help me with a post cycle? I don't mind how much it costs, im only buying one 10ml vial of testosterone so i will definetly have money for a good PCT.

I was thinking osmething like this

My Post cycle:
Day 1-10: 50mg clomid(100mg day 1 and 2), 40mg nolva
Day 11-20: 30mg nolva
Day 21-30: 20mg nolva
Day 31-35: 10mg nolva

But im not sure when to start it, etc. And what i should be using during hte cycle to minimize sides.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Brad don't mean to be pushy but is there any chance i could grab that diet off you?

Check your pm's mate .

Brad.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Can anyone help me with a post cycle? I don't mind how much it costs, im only buying one 10ml vial of testosterone so i will definetly have money for a good PCT.

I was thinking osmething like this

My Post cycle:
Day 1-10: 50mg clomid(100mg day 1 and 2), 40mg nolva
Day 11-20: 30mg nolva
Day 21-30: 20mg nolva
Day 31-35: 10mg nolva

But im not sure when to start it, etc. And what i should be using during hte cycle to minimize sides.

Its a very light cycle so

Clomid
50mg ed for 3wks at night before bed .

Nolva
20mg ed for 4 wks

Start pct 12 to 14 days after last test shot.

Brad.

 

[Bird Man]

Alright just printed that out and we are good to go. Is there any need for an Aromatise Inhibator? If so, what do you recomend?

Also this is how my workout is structured at the moment:

Each day consists of 6 exercises.

Week A: 5 sets of 6,6,8,10,12
Week B: 5 sets of 10,10,12,15,20

Monday: Chest

Tuesday: Shoulders

Wednesday: Triceps

Thursday: Biceps

Friday: Back

Sunday: Legs

Would that be sufficent for big gains? All the excercises are well planned out and are from a workout program given to me by a body builder at my gym.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

For a AI arimidex is good if you can get your hands on some but only use it if you need to .

Brad.

 

[Bird Man]

Bump.

Also this is how my workout is structured at the moment:

Each day consists of 6 exercises.

Week A: 5 sets of 6,6,8,10,12
Week B: 5 sets of 10,10,12,15,20

Monday: Chest

Tuesday: Shoulders

Wednesday: Triceps

Thursday: Biceps

Friday: Back

Sunday: Legs

Would that be sufficent for big gains? All the excercises are well planned out and are from a workout program given to me by a body builder at my gym.

 

[2evil]

Bump.

Also this is how my workout is structured at the moment:

Each day consists of 6 exercises.

Week A: 5 sets of 6,6,8,10,12
Week B: 5 sets of 10,10,12,15,20

Monday: Chest

Tuesday: Shoulders

Wednesday: Triceps

Thursday: Biceps

Friday: Back

Sunday: Legs

Would that be sufficent for big gains? All the excercises are well planned out and are from a workout program given to me by a body builder at my gym.

What has your training looked like to this point? Really depends on you and what you've been doing. What you want to avoid, especially on cycle is injury. I have my own theories on this but I really think that too many people end up lifting heavier than they need to while on.

Up your volume and go a bit heavier but don't go too heavy. Your tendons aren't growing like your muscles are and you can achieve great results without the risk.

 

[dannydice]

where can u buy test enth in australia been lookin everywhere some1 plz help out