Testosterone and sex drive help

[Cardinal Slin]

Around a decade ago I was what some would consider a freak - I was present on this board with a whole host of other good bros who seem no longer to be around. I have tried almost everything and experimented with doses that some would consider stupid.

After a long lay off I have started getting back in to the routine of things and recently began a cycle of sust eod, 20mgs dbol pre workout, 50mgs winny and insulin on leg days only at 8ius.

Over the last 6 mths or so I have had a lot happen to me and lost my sex drive. My other half is very concerned by it and nags all the time. I thought when I get back on to test things would change but despite being on 750mgs of test a week, things have not changed and where as before looking at a woman that was semi ugly would get me turned on, now with all this test and my other half, I am never in the mood and am never wanting sex.

There is no doubt that my test is legit and I seriously doubt 50mgs of winny would counter 750mgs of test so what could it be?

Please help me!

 

[79steeler]

How old are you? How long with same woman?

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I am in the early 30's and have been with my other half for 8 months

 

[halfcenturian]

Who are the bitches in your addy... and do you have phone numbers?
We'll get to your problem in a minute.... Let's get the important issues out of the way first! J/K.

Test can make me horny as a 5 peckered goat, or virtually sex-drive-less. The problem usually lies in too much or too little Estrogen. You can have it checked via blood work or experiment on your own. How much and how often are you taking AI's or AE's? It's a tight rope balancing act to get those levels just right so your drive comes back.

Also ancillaries like Proviron, Cabergoline, and HCG can help as well.
It is often times a mental issue rather than physical.

 

[Nelson Montana]

When this happens nobody wants to face the stark reality.

Whenever you fuck with your hormones, this can happen.

People say things like "I DID PCT" or "I'M ON TEST! " and think that no harm can come their way.

You're still young. Go off of everything. Do PCT. Use natural substances to get your body normalized.

And please...members...in situations like this, don't be so apt to advise taking more drugs. That's what caused the problem in the first place.

 

[partagus]

When this happens nobody wants to face the stark reality.

Whenever you fuck with your hormones, this can happen.

People say things like "I DID PCT" or "I'M ON TEST! " and think that no harm can come their way.

You're still young. Go off of everything. Do PCT. Use natural substances to get your body normalized.

And please...members...in situations like this, don't be so apt to advise taking more drugs. That's what caused the problem in the first place.

Listen to Nelson. This is the best advice you are going to get.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

When this happens nobody wants to face the stark reality.

Whenever you fuck with your hormones, this can happen.

People say things like "I DID PCT" or "I'M ON TEST! " and think that no harm can come their way.

You're still young. Go off of everything. Do PCT. Use natural substances to get your body normalized.

And please...members...in situations like this, don't be so apt to advise taking more drugs. That's what caused the problem in the first place.

Actually no, this is not what caused the problem in the first place. This is why I posed to try and determine what the issue is. Up to when I started cycle about 3 weeks ago, I was off for around 5 years) Bloodwork about 5 weeks ago showed me as being perfectly normal and healthy for my age with no suppression or health concerns.

On another note, I am older than most people who use gear on this board and the same age as the average professional bodybuilder, not that this makes it right.

Perhaps asking a few questions first before stating a factually incorrect answer based on assumptions would have been more beneficial but I do agree members too easily giving out advice without fully understanding the consequences.

Up to 6 months ago I was perfectly normal with no issues then for some reason I lost all sex drive and am not getting turned on or in the mood for sex. It is this reason I had bloodwork to check my test levels - everything came back fine.

To my post, halfcenturian has provided the most positive answer in which I need to speak to someone about and look in to and that was:

"It is often times a mental issue rather than physical."

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually no, this is not what caused the problem in the first place. This is why I posed to try and determine what the issue is. Up to when I started cycle about 3 weeks ago, I was off for around 5 years) Bloodwork about 5 weeks ago showed me as being perfectly normal and healthy for my age with no suppression or health concerns.

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BUT YOU'RE BACK ON . AND ON A LOT. AND THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT DAMAGE YOU DID IN THE PAST.




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On another note, I am older than most people who use gear on this board


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31 IS PRETTY YOUNG BRO. THE AGE RANGE HERE IS BETWEEN 21 AND 50.




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and the same age as the average professional bodybuilder, not that this makes it right.

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IT'S NOT A MATTER OF BEING "RIGHT." THE AGE OF PRO BB'S HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.






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Perhaps asking a few questions first before stating a factually incorrect answer based on assumptions would have been more beneficial but I do agree members too easily giving out advice without fully understanding the consequences.

Up to 6 months ago I was perfectly normal with no issues then for some reason I lost all sex drive and am not getting turned on or in the mood for sex. It is this reason I had bloodwork to check my test levels - everything came back fine.

To my post, halfcenturian has provided the most positive answer in which I need to speak to someone about and look in to and that was:

"It is often times a mental issue rather than physical."

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OF COURSE, LIBIDO , EITHER HIGH OR LOW, IS OFTEN THE CAUSE OF A MENTAL STATE. SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING? AND WHY ARE PEOPLE ADVISING MORE DRUGS? NEVERTHELESS, YOU'RE YOUNG, YOUR BLOODWORK IS FINE, YOU HAVE A NEW GF AND ON 750MGS OF TEST. SO EITHER IT'S PSYCHOLOGICAL, IN WHICH CASE, A MESSAGE BOARD IS NOT THE PLACE FOR ADVICE, OR, YOU'VE MESSED SOMETHING UP WITH ALL THE TAMPERING WITH HIGH DOSAGES, WHICH IS VERY, VERY POSSIBLE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A DICK BRO. JUST POINTING OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE POINTED OUT.


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[halfcenturian]

Actually no, this is not what caused the problem in the first place. This is why I posed to try and determine what the issue is. Up to when I started cycle about 3 weeks ago, I was off for around 5 years) Bloodwork about 5 weeks ago showed me as being perfectly normal and healthy for my age with no suppression or health concerns.

On another note, I am older than most people who use gear on this board and the same age as the average professional bodybuilder, not that this makes it right.

Perhaps asking a few questions first before stating a factually incorrect answer based on assumptions would have been more beneficial but I do agree members too easily giving out advice without fully understanding the consequences.

Up to 6 months ago I was perfectly normal with no issues then for some reason I lost all sex drive and am not getting turned on or in the mood for sex. It is this reason I had bloodwork to check my test levels - everything came back fine.

To my post, halfcenturian has provided the most positive answer in which I need to speak to someone about and look in to and that was:

"It is often times a mental issue rather than physical."

I'm way old. and on HRT. Thjis sometimes happens to me. I can be very horny or sexually "dead". We all know it's hormonal, so how do you suggest getting back to "normal" so our friend has a sex drive?

The advice I gave was based on my personal experiences... I don't think I gave "BAD ADVICE." Aside from the, Go off and go on PCT... what helpful advice can we offer this man?... Nelson? Partagus? I think you guys can offer up better then that! This kind of "Blow it off" reply is offensive, and not very helpful. Come on ...WTF !

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'm way old. and on HRT. Thjis sometimes happens to me. I can be very horny or sexually "dead". We all know it's hormonal, so how do you suggest getting back to "normal" so our friend has a sex drive?

The advice I gave was based on my personal experiences... I don't think I gave "BAD ADVICE." Aside from the, Go off and go on PCT... what helpful advice can we offer this man?... Nelson? Partagus? I think you guys can offer up better then that! This kind of "Blow it off" reply is offensive, and not very helpful. Come on ...WTF !

Read my above advice. I think it's sound. Why advise PCT to a psychological problem?

 

[halfcenturian]

Read my above advice. I think it's sound. Why advise PCT to a psychological problem?

Read Mine... OFTEN times it's mental, not always.

You don't think proviron, hcg or caber would be of benefit?

I'm not advising PCT.

Is there nothing you can sell him from your product line that would help ?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Read Mine... OFTEN times it's mental, not always.

You don't think proviron, hcg or caber would be of benefit?

I'm not advising PCT.

Is there nothing you can sell him from your product line that would help ?

Ha! I was trying not to make the supps the answer in fear of just sounding like I was promoting and not oferring what would be beneficial advice to many. But SURE. UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE can only help.

True, HCG, proviron and cabasser MAY offer temporary relief but I think it's more important to get to the root of the problem than to cover it up, just to return later.

 

[ALIN]

Around a decade ago I was what some would consider a freak - I was present on this board with a whole host of other good bros who seem no longer to be around. I have tried almost everything and experimented with doses that some would consider stupid.

After a long lay off I have started getting back in to the routine of things and recently began a cycle of sust eod, 20mgs dbol pre workout, 50mgs winny and insulin on leg days only at 8ius.

Over the last 6 mths or so I have had a lot happen to me and lost my sex drive. My other half is very concerned by it and nags all the time. I thought when I get back on to test things would change but despite being on 750mgs of test a week, things have not changed and where as before looking at a woman that was semi ugly would get me turned on, now with all this test and my other half, I am never in the mood and am never wanting sex.

There is no doubt that my test is legit and I seriously doubt 50mgs of winny would counter 750mgs of test so what could it be?

Please help me!

I would have some blood work done to see where you really stand.
PROVIRON would be a great addition if your still on cycle. really boostslibido

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I have been fine and although all levels are in the normal range I just have no sex drive or the mood for any.

I have been fine in all other aspects of life but just don't get it. I originally planned on being on 500mgs weekly of test but upped to 750mgs to see if that would help. It hasnt.

Thank you everyone - I guess I will go and have a chat with a shrink.

 

[hog#head#cheese]

Take a year off

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Take a year off

Why?

I had 5 years off and just began a cycle a few weeks ago. Please read my post for all the information

 

[Nelson Montana]

Why?

I had 5 years off and just began a cycle a few weeks ago. Please read my post for all the information

I reiterate. 5 years off and now on 750 mgs of T? dude, your body doesn;t know what the fuck is going on. It's resisting all that androgen. The body wants to maintain homeostasis. It likes balance. You're bombarding it.

After 5 years, if you did just 200 mgs of T you'd probably have a 24 hour hardon. Balance bro.

 

[TexasTurkey1001]

I reiterate. 5 years off and now on 750 mgs of T? dude, your body doesn;t know what the fuck is going on. It's resisting all that androgen. The body wants to maintain homeostasis. It likes balance. You're bombarding it.

After 5 years, if you did just 200 mgs of T you'd probably have a 24 hour hardon. Balance bro.

Slin -- Reading your other posts about gyno concerns where others (Mava)have also recommended dropping your dose... back in the day 750mgs may have been fine. But it's OBVIOUS what the problem is now!

Time to listen to what some VERY experienced bros are saying!



drop the mgs ...






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[Cardinal Slin]

Thank you.

I am dropping down to 250mgs twice weekly - one of the reasons of upping it from 500 to 750 was to try and determine if I would get my sex drive back and that has obviously not happened.


Thanks again everyone.

 

[big.nad]

Around a decade ago I was what some would consider a freak - I was present on this board with a whole host of other good bros who seem no longer to be around. I have tried almost everything and experimented with doses that some would consider stupid.

After a long lay off I have started getting back in to the routine of things and recently began a cycle of sust eod, 20mgs dbol pre workout, 50mgs winny and insulin on leg days only at 8ius.

Over the last 6 mths or so I have had a lot happen to me and lost my sex drive. My other half is very concerned by it and nags all the time. I thought when I get back on to test things would change but despite being on 750mgs of test a week, things have not changed and where as before looking at a woman that was semi ugly would get me turned on, now with all this test and my other half, I am never in the mood and am never wanting sex.

There is no doubt that my test is legit and I seriously doubt 50mgs of winny would counter 750mgs of test so what could it be?

Please help me!

the fact that ur other half is NAGGING you could be most of the problem. if it began as a phsycolgical issue then the nagging will defs just escalate the problem by 100.

is there any way of explaining to the other half about the gear and remind her that she isnt helping matters by complaining??

if so, ask her to co-operate with you and take it from there.