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Test - The king of gear! Dont be afraid.

gunner44

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I guess I am just bored today, so I thought I would empart a bit of wisdom before I get deployed for the next 90 days, so here goes:

For all of you construction guy gear heads, the following analogy really sums up the true reason Test is king. Testosterone (in its base ,esterless form) is like a skid steer loader. With the appropriate attachment, it is capable of handling a multitude of jobs. The "attachments" I am reffering to are the addition of esters for timed release, and the use of ancilary drugs to tailor the effectiveness of the drug to meet your particular goals.

If a person knows what they are doing, Testosterone is capable of giving you the body you want. Despite what people WANT to beleive, you really dont need the multitude of other modified Testosterone androgens that exist. Sure they are fun to collect in the good old gear box and they are always fun to experiment with, but in the end, they never really live up to your expectations.

Test can be used very effectively for cutting and shedding body fat. I know that this isnt a new idea but it is still overlooked by the new and uneducated users of gear (ie newbies, not bone head idiots and youngsters).

By using ancilary drugs like arimidex, proviron, and nolvadex, Test can easily be used to "CUT UP" . As we should all know at some point in our learning process, diet is the key to cutting and the use af an androgen like Test only serves to limit the effects of cortisol thus preventing wasting or loss of muscle mass. You can call bullshit on this, but it really is that simple. Test does it all, cutting,bulking,cruising,and HRT. Your old lady might not come to like test, but thats only because she never liked fucking you in the first place!!

The typical drug profile on Test only serves to scare or intimidate users away from this drug. Every profile I read on test is the same old apocalyptical shit. Very "strong androgen", "causes gynocomastia", "severe HPTA shutdown", blah, blah,blah.

If you applied this mode of thinking to Drag racing, people would be scared shitless of nitro-methane and still be running unleaded.
That is a good analogy, cuz Test is pretty much the nitro-methane of anabolics. Sure that may be scary to some, but hey, we all want the REAL shit, right?

Sure we know That Test can cause the side effects we are all so scared of, but so can other drugs like Deca and Tren.

Right there I have listed the other two andorgens which unsuccessfully tried to knock Test off of its throne. This is due entirely to the fact that these androgens can produce the same unwanted side effects as Test , as well as some nasty NEW side effects. Deca dick comes to mind, as does Progesterone induced gynocomastia which is a real pain in the ass to deal with for all but the most seasoned gear head.

In short , dont be afraid of Test. In fact, be afraid of the other androgens which may appear to be "safer" than Test. Case in point is Primobolan. Primo , which is supposed to be the safest steroid, can be very bad on the hair line when it is real, and damn near kill you if it is a vile of fake, bacteria infested mizola.

When it comes to AAS, safe is a relative term. Nothing comes for free, there is some price to pay for anything gained.

Do your research. Gain an understanding of the ancilary drugs which are available today like Arimidex,Femera,Nolvadex, and Proviron. (Notice I didnt mention Blomid, I mean Clomid! LOL)
Also, gain an understanding of how Test effects you. A person can learn A LOT by doing a Test only cycle, at a reasonable dosage of course. Come on, dont be a pussy! You can do it.

If you try too hard to avoid Test, in the hopes of finding that miricle AAS, well , you will eventually experience all of the sides you were trying to avoid, as well as some new ones, and your money and knowledge will be in short supply.

See you guys in a couple of months. Hopefully, we will all still be here, and we will all be BIGGER !! (just not in bra size)
 
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so if you were just to do a test only cycle for say 8 wks @500mg/wk would time on still equal time off, and if you were using nolva n proviron the whole time(as sides n aromatisation control) and then a bit after (as pct) would you still shut down as hard?
 
I have personally noticed that if I start to up my dosage of proviron and Arimidex about mid cycle (while on Test only), my balls will actually begin to grow back a bit. It isnt much , but at least they start hanging around, if you know what i mean.

Anecdotaly, this tells me that test doesnt totally shut you down and if it is starting to shut you down and you push down your estrogen levels, your system may start to come back to a degree. Even during a cycle.

This is also true if you use HCG mid cycle. The HCG really isnt helping with HPTA function, it is more like jump starting your nuts directly.

Estrogen is the key to HPTA shutdown when it comes to Test. This is good, because it is simple to control estrogen, while on Test.

As far as other androgens like Tren and Deca , well I suspect that they effect HPTA in some other way. When you realize how long these other 2 steroids can shut you down, you have to suspect that something else is going on since they cant convert to estrogen.

The time on=time off idea probably works best with Test since its negative effect on HPTA seems to have a shorter duration. I know from experience that it DOES NOT work with Tren or DECA.

For tren or deca it is hard to say for sure, but you should probably be practicing a time on = time offX2 approach. However , this makes maintaining gains more difficult and also makes you run a longer PCT program which can also mean more cost for the cycle.

Just one more reason Test is king !
 
Nice read. I needed to see stuff like this. I have run deca only but want to run test. I have reall really wanted to run test lately. I am still reading though may be ready aprl we'll see....Though I thought I may run it with deca to solidify the gains but they may be the wrong idea. Can you run test for 8-10 then winny 5-10 at the end...?
 
Agreed... Test is good stuff.

For me, Test is not in the cards. Altough the sides can be controlled to a certain degree... you have to realize that some of us have VERY sensitive hairlines and skin...

I can get where I want without it... but I am jealous of those can that can tolerate it...
 
First, I love test.

Second, people react differently to different drugs.

Third, DAMAGING acne related to test use is one problem for me and many others. Controling the problem is a problem for many of us.


































Oh and fifth, I'm probably going to say fuck it an hit some test on my next cycle!. :)
 
My 2nd cycle of 2004 wil be test/EQ.
 
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Sustanon 250 is really a great drug.


Hell any decent test blend is a great. Some pharmaracies will even compound custom mixtures for you if you want.

Gotta love HRT clinics. They will bend over backwards for you.
 
yes test is good, and qhen using doses UNDER 500mg/week, you dont need any arimidex, femara aromasin only proviron.
 
Maybe...but It'd be dumb not to have it on hand anyway. A small price to pay for insurance...bras aren't cheap you know :D

chaquito said:
yes test is good, and qhen using doses UNDER 500mg/week, you dont need any arimidex, femara aromasin only proviron.
 
First, I love test.

Second, people react differently to different drugs.

Third, DAMAGING acne related to test use is one problem for me and many others. Controling the problem is a problem for many of us.


Silent Method

Have you got your hands on some ISOTREX?

It is a topical Acutane Gel, and it may just solve your problems with the acne.

You can get fairly cheap from many mexican online pharmacies .
 
jh1 said:
Agreed... Test is good stuff.

For me, Test is not in the cards. Altough the sides can be controlled to a certain degree... you have to realize that some of us have VERY sensitive hairlines and skin...

I can get where I want without it... but I am jealous of those can that can tolerate it...

You touch on an excellent point, JH1. There is a lot more to taking test than just taking test.

Extra finasteride to counter the excess DHT. Currently taking 2.5mg ED.

More thorough washing and scrubbing and astringent. I put astringent on my back and shoulders.

Anti aromatase. With extra finasteride, I have higher T. A'dex helps to keep E low. Otherwise, E would be even higher due to lower DHT and higher T.
 
from what i have read on the boards it seems the sides of Test are just not worth it. for those of you guys who like it, why would it be worth taking? what is so good about it?
 
glennds said:
from what i have read on the boards it seems the sides of Test are just not worth it. for those of you guys who like it, why would it be worth taking? what is so good about it?

its a natural hormone, its impacts are well studied, and sides are easy to control with readily available ancillaries and gains are :D.



btw- great thread title
 
glennds said:
from what i have read on the boards it seems the sides of Test are just not worth it. for those of you guys who like it, why would it be worth taking? what is so good about it?

If you are intemidated by test, then you are missing out.

You should do a test only cycle and make your own decision.
 
gunner44 said:


Second, people react differently to different drugs.

this is the most intelligent thing i have read around here in a long time!!!!! this must be kept in everone's mind cause for you book smart guys this isnt in the book. i agreee gunner44 on that statement.
 
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