Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've been on for two straight years and all I use is test. Needless to say I'm not a begginer to sauce and all I continue to use...And grow on is test, so test only imo is the way to go...esspecially for a furst cycle. My first "cycle" was 500mg of omna for 10 weeks. 190 pounds- 225 pounds...none lost.
Test Only As A First Cycle- Good Or Bad??
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Dr.RobertBanner
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Yeah, a test only cycle for your 1st would be great. Simple but really effective. Just get some armidex(preferably) or nolvadex, and clomid for after. Had a friend that did one, he is dumb as shit, knows nothing about nutrition or training, but was dead set on doing a cycle. So I made sure he got some Clomid, told him to train as hard as he could and eat as much as he could and that boy BLEW UP. Crazy stuff. That's one of the things that convinced me to do my fisrt cycle, wanted to see what I could do w/ proper nutrition and training on a good cycle.
Beezers said:
How often do you change up the test you are running and how often and to what degree do you change your doses? You run strictly test only cycles? You never throw in any D-bol or fina? One last question, how much weight are you gaining say on a monthly basis after extended use?
Devil's Advocate
Test by itself doesn't work well for me. I get a lot of sides over 500+ mgs while not much in muscle mass increase (although strength is enhanced due to CNS stim). Mg for mg my gains from deca are vastly supperior. Dbol at 20mg ED gives me better results that 500mg of test weekly.
That being said, I've found it works best for me when I include it with other more anabolic drugs. Even 200mg weekly greatly improves the effectiveness of the stack while keeping sides low.
My experience anyway.
Test by itself doesn't work well for me. I get a lot of sides over 500+ mgs while not much in muscle mass increase (although strength is enhanced due to CNS stim). Mg for mg my gains from deca are vastly supperior. Dbol at 20mg ED gives me better results that 500mg of test weekly.
That being said, I've found it works best for me when I include it with other more anabolic drugs. Even 200mg weekly greatly improves the effectiveness of the stack while keeping sides low.
My experience anyway.
The Almighty said:
Yup 500 would be good but expect a little bloat yet not too much really. Better take 20 of nolva or at least have it on hand. You probably won't need it with 500 but ya never know.
Other good first cycles would be 250 of EQ and 250 of test. This would result in almost the same gains but would be a less androgenic stack. The same could be said of deca 250 and test 250.
You could also try tren at 50 per day if a good bro can give you A-1 instruction on injections and you don't mind the pokes. You can use a 27 gauge 1.5 inch pin(they can be found) and an insulin syringe.....no pain at all.
Use 100 of proviron per day or 200 of test per week for sex drive.
The above doses are plenty unless you are already at your natural max size...ie: the average guy 5'9 or 10" can get to 190 lean naturally.
If you are sure that you are at your natural max you could increase the dose a little. You would still see good gains from the above doses...but not optimal gains.
bigAragorn
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Shit and im gettin knocked for 375 mgs/wk during my current first cycle.....im with you on that one though, im starting to wish i did 500 mgs at least.
Oh and test only seems to be a sure thing for a first cycle...its what im doing now...ive gone from 225 to 249 and i still got 4 more weeks
b.A.
Re: Devil's Advocate
This proves that some experimentation is needed.........however, I would say that your experience with test is not the most common. For the average man 500 of test would result in better muscle gain than either 500 of nandrolone per week or 20 mg of d-bol per day. Also at 500 mg of test per week most men will experince few sides and that includes excessive bloat.
MadCow1 said:
This proves that some experimentation is needed.........however, I would say that your experience with test is not the most common. For the average man 500 of test would result in better muscle gain than either 500 of nandrolone per week or 20 mg of d-bol per day. Also at 500 mg of test per week most men will experince few sides and that includes excessive bloat.
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I have heard nothing but good stuff about test only cycles.
I myself am a tren junkie, but plan on doing a test only cycle.
From all the info I read I would tell someone to go for it for a first cycle. As the vets stated before me, have some stuff for the bloat and you will be on point.
I have read studies that have had untrained men on test and they gained like 8 lbs of LBM in 12 weeks and didn't touch a weight. If someone is busting their ass in the gym, they will blow the fuck up, as many people report awesome results of test only.
I have heard nothing but good stuff about test only cycles.
I myself am a tren junkie, but plan on doing a test only cycle.
From all the info I read I would tell someone to go for it for a first cycle. As the vets stated before me, have some stuff for the bloat and you will be on point.
I have read studies that have had untrained men on test and they gained like 8 lbs of LBM in 12 weeks and didn't touch a weight. If someone is busting their ass in the gym, they will blow the fuck up, as many people report awesome results of test only.
GARAGE GORILLA said:
I normally don't change the ester I'm using. I just use enanthate, but have used sust quite a bit. I use 1g/wk. I have been at this dose for about four months now...I moved up from 750mg week. I'm still gaining steadily. I put on about 2 pounds a month or so. I'm at 6'1 261 9%bf right now. I used to "stack" and finaly came to the conclusion that it's a waste. Straight test worked far better than test/EQ/Dbol. I havn't used anything other than test for a good year now. I have blood work done every other month and all is top-notch...In fact the doctor is amazed by my cholesterol levels as he has never seen anyone with such a healthy reading of both HDL and LDL. No liver problems, thyroid problems, blood glucose problems, or estrodial problems. Hopefully I can keep growing with this dose. SO far so good.
