Test/Masteron Combo. Need help. Experienced Users ONLY please.

[Smokescreen]

For HRT purposes, I take 100mgs every 5 days. I'm about to start Masteron. Not looking to get HUGE. Just want to get more harder and more defined. My mood is pretty good and this is something I do NOT want to fuck up! I don't want to get all irritable and moody. And most important of all...I don't want my libido to go to hell neither!

Can I leave the Test dose as is? And just add Masteron?

OR

Must I "increase" the dose of Test while using Masteron?

 

[C.K.]

Mast is great but purely cosmetic and to combat sides I beleive I'm not seeing any huge strength or agrresion increases although I am totally side free zero bloat/gyno/acne... hard and vascular as hell

I'm running 750 sust and 450 mast pw right now gonna give it a run at 600 mgs pw next cycle

 

[rambleon]

If you're on hrt with the 100 mg e5d you can keep that as is and add the mast. Your libido will go up not down. Mast is very like proviron this way. Also it's antiestrogenic so you won't need an AI which must be important to you seeing how you hate estro. People will tell you that you need to up the test but there is really no reason to given your goals. I have quite a lot of experience with mast and it can give you exactly what you're looking for but you need to be eating just right.

Run the mast at around 400 mg ew.

Enjoy!

 

[Smokescreen]

Mast is great but purely cosmetic and to combat sides I beleive I'm not seeing any huge strength or agrresion increases although I am totally side free zero bloat/gyno/acne... hard and vascular as hell

I'm running 750 sust and 450 mast pw right now gonna give it a run at 600 mgs pw next cycle

Any AI's on this stack?

 

[Smokescreen]

If you're on hrt with the 100 mg e5d you can keep that as is and add the mast. Your libido will go up not down. Mast is very like proviron this way. Also it's antiestrogenic so you won't need an AI which must be important to you seeing how you hate estro. People will tell you that you need to up the test but there is really no reason to given your goals. I have quite a lot of experience with mast and it can give you exactly what you're looking for but you need to be eating just right.

Run the mast at around 400 mg ew.

Enjoy!

Thank you brother

 

[RADAR]

Any AI's on this stack?

Nope!masterdon binds well to the testosterone molecule ,I agree 400mg wk will give you what you want ,as mentioned by Rambleon masterdon is antiestrogenic so Arimidex is not needed,so enjoy!

 

[C.K.]

Any AI's on this stack?

no sir none needed

 

[OMEGA]

oh and everyone in this thread has given GREAT advice spot on

 

[OMEGA]

Swole is the resident Test + Mast hrt cruise expert

 

[rambleon]

oh and everyone in this thread has given GREAT advice spot on

Are u being sarcastic? Not very like u omega.

 

[OMEGA]

no not at all I was being serious

I was complimenting your advice Sir


dont let my creepy avatar influence my posts

 

[lartinos]

Masteron is a personal favorite of mine. At a dose of test that low you most likely won't need an AI, but I would still keep a low dose of arimidex around if you usually convert at a high rate. Masteron I believe only binds to the estrogen receptor so you will still have circulating estrogen which could result in a rebound when you come off. I love masteron with the only side effects that I don't like are the greazy skin and the occasional headache. Overall it's great stuff and if you're lucky to find someone who makes one with an enanthate ester at a high mg/ml dose!
Love it!

 

[XMAN.]

Masteron is a personal favorite of mine. At a dose of test that low you most likely won't need an AI, but I would still keep a low dose of arimidex around if you usually convert at a high rate. Masteron I believe only binds to the estrogen receptor so you will still have circulating estrogen which could result in a rebound when you come off. I love masteron with the only side effects that I don't like are the greazy skin and the occasional headache. Overall it's great stuff and if you're lucky to find someone who makes one with an enanthate ester at a high mg/ml dose!
Love it!

r u sure about masteron binding with the estrogen receptor? i thought it's just like proviron and binds with the aromatase enzyme and stop the conversion which won't lead to a rebound later.
Hey Omega can u plz confirm this.

 

[rambleon]

no not at all I was being serious

I was complimenting your advice Sir


dont let my creepy avatar influence my posts

Oh thank you then.

That avi IS creepy tho

 

[swole]

I've experimented with mast prop and proviron...maybe too much for my own good, lol.

To get the desired effects of mast prop I found 1cc (100mg) injected EOD was sufficient. That became a pain in the ass, especially when on cycle...so I dropped that idea and decided to take 50mg of proviron ED.

I noticed the following:

Mast Prop, 100mg EOD injects: less mood alteration, less pronounced gains, nice muscle hardness, no change in libido.

Priviron, 50mg ED oral: more aggressive in gym, nothing unwanted in terms of mood alteration, more pronounced muscle hardness, better estrogen control, no change in libido.

I think taking proviron orally works better for me. If I were cruising, I'd rather inject the mast as you will be on a cruise for what I'm assuming to be at least 2 months. I would only take proviron up to 2 months orally.

Cliff Notes:

On Cycle - Proviron
Cruise - Mast (if you can deal with EOD injections)

and forget about mast enanthate that shit is weak for some reason I don't get the same effects at all

 

[swole]

For the record when I'm ON, I won't even consider injecting masteron as I'm using my injection sites to load with 400mg of primo every 4 days.

Another point - you may still need aromasin to control estrogen, depending on how sensitive you are...even masteron will not combat 100% of estrogen-related sides

I'm currently using Forma Stanzol and it's the bomb.

 

[lartinos]

For the record when I'm ON, I won't even consider injecting masteron as I'm using my injection sites to load with 400mg of primo every 4 days.

Another point - you may still need aromasin to control estrogen, depending on how sensitive you are...even masteron will not combat 100% of estrogen-related sides

I'm currently using Forma Stanzol and it's the bomb.

Forma is excellant!!!
I knew someone who had mast enan a few years back that was 300mg/ml. Unreal stuff!

 

[Smokescreen]

I've experimented with mast prop and proviron...maybe too much for my own good, lol.

To get the desired effects of mast prop I found 1cc (100mg) injected EOD was sufficient. That became a pain in the ass, especially when on cycle...so I dropped that idea and decided to take 50mg of proviron ED.

I noticed the following:

Mast Prop, 100mg EOD injects: less mood alteration, less pronounced gains, nice muscle hardness, no change in libido.

Priviron, 50mg ED oral: more aggressive in gym, nothing unwanted in terms of mood alteration, more pronounced muscle hardness, better estrogen control, no change in libido.

I think taking proviron orally works better for me. If I were cruising, I'd rather inject the mast as you will be on a cruise for what I'm assuming to be at least 2 months. I would only take proviron up to 2 months orally.

Cliff Notes:

On Cycle - Proviron
Cruise - Mast (if you can deal with EOD injections)

and forget about mast enanthate that shit is weak for some reason I don't get the same effects at all

All I was able to get was Mast. Enanthate. So, since I'm sticking to HRT doses (can't really go higher due to increase in Estrogen and Progesterone) will 400mgs of Mast E. a week suffice?

 

[swole]

All I was able to get was Mast. Enanthate. So, since I'm sticking to HRT doses (can't really go higher due to increase in Estrogen and Progesterone) will 400mgs of Mast E. a week suffice?

yes. split into twice per week.

get some forma from mr supps, i wouldn't lie to ya

 

[C.K.]

Mast Prop, 100mg EOD injects: less mood alteration, less pronounced gains, nice muscle hardness, no change in libido.

Priviron, 50mg ED oral: more aggressive in gym, nothing unwanted in terms of mood alteration, more pronounced muscle hardness, better estrogen control, no change in libido.


Cliff Notes:

On Cycle - Proviron
Cruise - Mast (if you can deal with EOD injections)

Guess everyones different proviron made me alot more horny and I broke out... mast makes me harder everywhere better pumps my erections are often painful haha

 

[lartinos]

Guess everyones different proviron made me alot more horny and I broke out... mast makes me harder everywhere better pumps my erections are often painful haha

I think I would need 100mg's of proviron because I felt nothing at 50mg's.

 

[Smokescreen]

Guess everyones different proviron made me alot more horny and I broke out... mast makes me harder everywhere better pumps my erections are often painful haha

But do you notice ANY increase in libido while ON masteron?

 

[Smokescreen]

I think I would need 100mg's of proviron because I felt nothing at 50mg's.

How long would you run 50mgs for you to say it's not working? I ran it at 100mgs per day and within a week I gained a lot of weight. Got much harder. And libido and mood increased. But it was also short lived as well. Within like 6 weeks, the fun went away.