Test level results

[eyekanseayoo]

about a month ago I went in to the Doc about an appetite problem..was prescribed megace 40 and B12 shots 1000mg per month for 3 months... test results from my blood tests came in today.. range is 216-845 or so and I scored a 785... im 21.. so has anyone else tested and gotten similar results and how great is 785 anyways? is that a good level?

 

[anal itch]

on the high end of normal. Be happy

 

[todoveritas]

Yes, you are one healthy young buck given your "high normal." The only bad note is that once suppressed, it may take you a little longer to recover. Remember not to scimp on PCT.

 

[eyekanseayoo]

Yes, you are one healthy young buck given your "high normal." The only bad note is that once suppressed, it may take you a little longer to recover. Remember not to scimp on PCT.

yikes! I'll remember that! thx

 

[GMTECH]

DO NOT USE STEROIDS you have a test level most people die for. Keep up on getting the blood work and if you see a drop in a couple years go for it.
But right now you should be making easy gains being natural.

 

[lanky]

great levels.

 

[nuthnbutfords]

about a month ago I went in to the Doc about an appetite problem..was prescribed megace 40 and B12 shots 1000mg per month for 3 months... test results from my blood tests came in today.. range is 216-845 or so and I scored a 785... im 21.. so has anyone else tested and gotten similar results and how great is 785 anyways? is that a good level?

I hate you.

j/k bro, we'd all kill for that level.

 

[eyekanseayoo]

Thanks for the responses.. The only problem I guess is im a friggin hard gainer from H E double hockey sticks..... its so hard to eattt..

 

[Makavelli]

Sorry bros, but after being off for six months, my test levels came back at 751! Even I was surprised at that.

 

[ALIN]

about a month ago I went in to the Doc about an appetite problem..was prescribed megace 40 and B12 shots 1000mg per month for 3 months... test results from my blood tests came in today.. range is 216-845 or so and I scored a 785... im 21.. so has anyone else tested and gotten similar results and how great is 785 anyways? is that a good level?

whats megace 40?

 

[OMEGA]

sexy levels right there

 

[eyekanseayoo]

whats megace 40?

http://www.bms.com/cgi-bin/anybin.pl?sql=select+PPI+from+TB_PRODU


helps with my appetite thats for sure, along with the B12 im a hungry hungry hippo.. but a hippo with like 8% BF...

 

[njmuscleguy]

megace is similar to female progesterone - typically used to treat breast cancer or endometrial cancer in women... it's also use as an apetite enhancer for anorexics and HIV patients

 

[shortspanishguy]

When I got my results back 2 months after my first cycle my numbers were at 891!! I was very suprised.

 

[eyekanseayoo]

When I got my results back 2 months after my first cycle my numbers were at 891!! I was very suprised.

so its not test level suicide to cycle while already naturally high?

 

[shortspanishguy]

so its not test level suicide to cycle while already naturally high?

I really cant say. I am 25 years old now so I figured I would start to decline. I guess not yet. I guess my test levels explain my crazy hairyness.

 

[nuthnbutfords]

Sorry bros, but after being off for six months, my test levels came back at 751! Even I was surprised at that.

That's interesting Mak. How low did they get (if you have test from that level)???

What kinda pct did you follow??

Thanks

 

[Makavelli]

so its not test level suicide to cycle while already naturally high?

No. Whether you have naturally high or low test levels when you start using AAS your natural test will stop production until you come off and go through PCT. Interestingly before I ever used any AAS the highest my test levels came out to was 300. On my last test after being off for 6 months I was at 751! Figure that one out...

 

[eyekanseayoo]

No. Whether you have naturally high or low test levels when you start using AAS your natural test will stop production until you come off and go through PCT. Interestingly before I ever used any AAS the highest my test levels came out to was 300. On my last test after being off for 6 months I was at 751! Figure that one out...

wow , nice..at what age were levels 300? im shocked that mine was rated so high.. I mean I guess I am a sex machine I always wondered I my sex drive was a little more than normal

 

[djsf]

No. Whether you have naturally high or low test levels when you start using AAS your natural test will stop production until you come off and go through PCT. Interestingly before I ever used any AAS the highest my test levels came out to was 300. On my last test after being off for 6 months I was at 751! Figure that one out...

Were you using any anti-e's or test booster supplements when you measured at 751?

 

[sigmund]

There's so much more to making easy gains and being a sex machine than the number associated with testosterone count! You could have a figure of 300 but have much more active (free) test in your blood than a guy who has in excess of a 1000 count but all bound up to SHBG.

Free test is where it's at... and there's a bunch of other factors.

Your test count fluctuates daily (higher in the morning following pulsate release of LH / FSH over night). Getting good undisturbed nights sleep is so important.

Test levels also fluctuate seasonally believe it or not (highest in spring / summer).

An increase in E2 will knock both test down and SHBG up. Some people are more sensitive than others to this.

The above emphasises the requirement for an AI during a cycle.

Ah and yes, before you ask - in theory an AI (Adex) alone will boost test and more significantly free test nicely, but kill your good cholesterol and potentially increase DHT (for some).

Cortisol plays a big part too as does diet.

Cholesterol is a hormonal precursor - those who diet to the extreme (especially anyone who starves themselves) can have low test levels.

Note: On average only 2% of test is usually active (free).

Oh and the Megace (progesterone) is likely to have influenced the result. Rule of thumb = Introduce one exogenous hormone and others are impacted as the body strives continually for homeostasis.

 

[nuthnbutfords]

There's so much more to making easy gains and being a sex machine than the number associated with testosterone count! You could have a figure of 300 but have much more active (free) test in your blood than a guy who has in excess of a 1000 count but all bound up to SHBG.

Free test is where it's at... and there's a bunch of other factors.

Your test count fluctuates daily (higher in the morning following pulsate release of LH / FSH over night). Getting good undisturbed nights sleep is so important.

Test levels also fluctuate seasonally believe it or not (highest in spring / summer).

An increase in E2 will knock both test down and SHBG up. Some people are more sensitive than others to this.

The above emphasises the requirement for an AI during a cycle.

Ah and yes, before you ask - in theory an AI (Adex) alone will boost test and more significantly free test nicely, but kill your good cholesterol and potentially increase DHT (for some).

Cortisol plays a big part too as does diet.

Cholesterol is a hormonal precursor - those who diet to the extreme (especially anyone who starves themselves) can have low test levels.

Note: On average only 2% of test is usually active (free).

Oh and the Megace (progesterone) is likely to have influenced the result. Rule of thumb = Introduce one exogenous hormone and others are impacted as the body strives continually for homeostasis.

Extremely good post, probably one of the best i've read on EF.

 

[sigmund]

Extremely good post, probably one of the best i've read on EF.

Thanks mate!

In that case ^ for others to see

 

[Makavelli]

The protocol I follow for PCT is like this: 1 week after my last shot of long acting esters I'll take 100 mgs of clomid the first and second week. I'll also start HCG at 3000 IU's, 3000 IU's, 2000 IU's, 2000 IU's, 1000 IU's, 1000 IU's every fourth day starting a week after my last shot. I'll stay on the nolvadex and arimidex throughout. The third week I'll drop the clomid to 50 mgs/day and run that another two weeks, so 4 week total on clomid. I'll taper the arimidex down to .5 mgs/day after lowering the clomid dosage and finishing HCG therapy.

I wasn't using any PCT, nor any herbs or supplements when I tested at 751. I was surprised by that too. I'm still not sure why. Maybe the PCT just kicked my production into high gear. I'll get tested again in the summer and see where I'm at.

 

[MADBALL99]

ttt

 

[sigmund]

The protocol I follow for PCT is like this: 1 week after my last shot of long acting esters I'll take 100 mgs of clomid the first and second week. I'll also start HCG at 3000 IU's, 3000 IU's, 2000 IU's, 2000 IU's, 1000 IU's, 1000 IU's every fourth day starting a week after my last shot. I'll stay on the nolvadex and arimidex throughout. The third week I'll drop the clomid to 50 mgs/day and run that another two weeks, so 4 week total on clomid. I'll taper the arimidex down to .5 mgs/day after lowering the clomid dosage and finishing HCG therapy.

I wasn't using any PCT, nor any herbs or supplements when I tested at 751. I was surprised by that too. I'm still not sure why. Maybe the PCT just kicked my production into high gear. I'll get tested again in the summer and see where I'm at.

Sounds like you have your PCT regime down to a tee!

I've read that it is possible to increase natty test levels long term in older males via occasional HCG / Adex administration, some have even suggested that this can lead to a permanent increase in testosterone output! The theory is - the pituitary continues to signal for increased LH / FSH, maintaining the "lower" E2 levels (pushed down by the Adex), which in turn keeps negative-feedback firing - so the mechanism is caught in a continual loop.

The HCG has maximised testicular volume so output capacity is raised. I need to remember where I read this so I can post it but it is not too dissimilar to how the body reacts when heavily shut down, just the opposite is taking place, ie. higher than normal testosterone production due to prior exogenous stimulation. And as some have experienced it can take many months even years to regulate back to homeostatic levels .