Test for Cutting

[seandh07]

Hey guys, first things first, 23y.o 5'5 165lbs. 2 PH cycles (beast/katana) training for 6 years. In getting ready for another BB competition and was getting ready to go the PH route. I recent find a reliable source abs wad thinking a low dose of test instead (300mg/wk tops) Diet/training is spot on and I'll have aromodin and clomid as well as forma. It would be test e and I am pretty sure it causes a little more bloat because long Esters(?) Would this be a viable option? I haven't done injectables yet but i'm not to sure how I will respond which scares me because my comp if 10 wks out. Any advice is awesome! Thanks guys.

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[dvoted]

Hey man! Well some say that since you havent had any AAS and therefore your receptors are new, you may evem be able to cut and gain a little mass whilst on test e cutting, if you want to steer to this goal bump the test e to 500 a week, if your looking just for muscle preservation you could even just fo 200 - 250 mg per week. With the bloat just use armidex to control it, test is test at the end of the day, and diet is KEY, but you've stated you've already got that done so your pretty much covered! and respond to what exactly? what are you scared off?

 

[seandh07]

Scared of bloat/gyno that's the reason for such a low. Looking for mainly preservation but of course a little extra mass wouldn't hurt anything.

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[dvoted]

Well keep Armidex on hand and nolva just in case of gyno, however another good product to look into which is what im going to look at during my bridge is a sarms stack

50mg ED S4 (split 25mg AM and 25mg PM)
25 mg OSTA

This is good enough to preserve your gains and cut, so that way, after your comp you can use your test e for bulking and make really good gains!

you also need to ru na mini = PCT for this stack

i suggest 3 weeks on Unleashed/Post Cycle from Needtobuldmuscle.

 

[mr.enthate]

Shoot 350 mg a week that should be a great dose for cutting and adding a lil more mass remember diet but you compete so you know all about that. You should do just fine on that dose and remember the less body fat you have the less estrogen will convert I think you'll do awsome bro, trial and error

 

[seandh07]

Thanks for the responses guys!

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[dylangemelli]

Thanks for the responses guys!

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as long as your are running an ai alongside your test, you can definitely keep the bloating to a minimum... if you are really trying to get a nice but on the cycle, you can add winstrol or anavar on the back end... since its your first injectible cycle, i wouldn't add any more to it than that, but you could run test for 12 weeks and weeks 7-12 go with anavar... 60 mg a day... you will cut up very nicely as long as your diet and training is spot on...

 

[dvoted]

as long as your are running an ai alongside your test, you can definitely keep the bloating to a minimum... if you are really trying to get a nice but on the cycle, you can add winstrol or anavar on the back end... since its your first injectible cycle, i wouldn't add any more to it than that, but you could run test for 12 weeks and weeks 7-12 go with anavar... 60 mg a day... you will cut up very nicely as long as your diet and training is spot on...

listen to dylan he knows his shit lol

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[RickRock13]

Bloating from test can easily be controlled mostly from diet IMO. I'm on 500mg Test E per week and I've managed to keep most of the bloat down just from carb cycling with an IF diet. I'm also on no AI too. And then if you do add an AI you can make bloat pretty much non existent. Since you are a competitor you obviously know dieting well enough or else you would never get to stage level, so that is all you need to control any bloat you can get from test....diet and an AI

 

[newNimproved]

yeah anything above 100mg a week of test is above TRT levels and you should bare some decent results. if your diet is spot on id also look into t3 at around 25-50mcg a day to speed up the fat burning process.

 

[RickRock13]

yeah anything above 100mg a week of test is above TRT levels and you should bare some decent results. if your diet is spot on id also look into t3 at around 25-50mcg a day to speed up the fat burning process.

T3 can also be very catabolic and known to waste muscle if not careful. I would advise against using T3 myself, and get your bodyfat down with other means

 

[dylangemelli]

T3 can also be very catabolic and known to waste muscle if not careful. I would advise against using T3 myself, and get your bodyfat down with other means

i agree with rick all the way here... i would steer clear from t3... the risk of muscle wastage is just not worth it... there are so many better ways to cut than this... if you really need something extra, albuterol is a much better option...

 

[seandh07]

I would only do the test, and an ai of.course but this being my first test cycle I don't want to introduce my body to more than one compounds yet just rdo I know how my body reacts to test alone. Like I said, diet will be my main source if cutting obviously and the test will be used to preserve the muscle and possibly build a tad. Thanks for the info guys!

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[seandh07]

And if I decide I need extra help burning thr extra fat off ill go to a standard otc type of product.

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[seandh07]

Ok I just got the word from my guy, he can only currently get test e250 tren e150 premixed. I hadn't planned on running multiple compounds but low dosage and moderation to this stuff is key to great results in the long run, I still have YEARS EU get crazy

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[newNimproved]

its a good combo..........but u are too new to AAS to try tren. i dont know about people on this forum, but tren turns me into a angry SOB so i steel clear of it now.

if you are looking over the counter, id suggest ephedra/caff mix over clen or albuterol.

and with the t3, i re read you statement about being your first go around, so yeah, until you are on major anabolics, id stay away.........sorry i suggested it.

normally you want your test above 500mg a week with added t3 or u will get skinny. id even suggest 750mg a week if using t3. i have had my go arounds with t3 and i love the stuff, but not all people are the same.

i am naturally a big dude, so i preserve muscle decently, some people are ectomorphs and if they take t3 they lose all their gains.

 

[newNimproved]

T3 can also be very catabolic and known to waste muscle if not careful. I would advise against using T3 myself, and get your bodyfat down with other means

good assessment man..........sorry i didnt read his original post just jumped to the last page and replied.

 

[seandh07]

Again thanks, I would normally say no but right now its either get that combo or do without, comp is in less than 9 Weeks so I need to Madge a decision fast (like tomorrow) I did some research and its send like the normal dosage (tren ace) is around 75 eod and its a bit stronger. 150/wk seems like sides will be minimal and delivery easy to subside. I had plans to pin every 6th day so my last pin will be about 5 days out (start of dryout) although it will stool be in system for a few Weeks because of the long Esters.

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[seandh07]

Or I could do every 5th day which would be right at 8wks but I feel that may be to short if a test cycle but still may be beneficial because ill be popping my injectable cherry

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[dylangemelli]

your making a HUGE mistake running tren as a first cycle... don't be a person that has to learn the hard way...

 

[seandh07]

Thanks again Dylan! Tying to do this right so i'm not a hormonal agressive bitch tittied mess!! (like the wife on her period....)

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[seandh07]

Thanks, going With my Better judgment and doing 250 test e/wk. Ill try to leave the cut to diet and fatty pills if needed.

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[seandh07]

Ok guys, seeking first pin advice. Did research and I decided to do quads. From what I can tell 25x1 if good right into the meatiest portion. When you aspirate, how far do you pull back on the plunger? Also, how long does the whole process take? I'm nut afraid of needles (dont particularly like them) but I get stabbed monthly (military) thanks again everyone

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