test enth question

[kgarto]

your situation:

given one legit 5ml 200mg/ml bottle a month, how would you go about commensing a "permanent" cycle (understanding that it's not really a cycle because the goal would be to never end it). with the half-life of the enth in mind, is there a best dosing schedual to utilize that monthly gram? even if it means using less and accumulating, any ideas are welcome but keep in mind it's for the long run.

secondary to that, would you take hcg every couple months? from the standpoint of trying to keep elevated test created estrogen down, would you take .25mg arimidex (via liquidex) every week or so? not sure if it's all psychological or not, but it seems like that initial "test high" feeling fades and maybe that it has to do with the body raising estrogen levels? someone must know enough about that to give a definitive answer..

 

[gear63]

save up a months worth then shoot 500mgs per week for two weeks then continue for the long run at 200mgs per week a basic HRT doseage about the arimidex and hcg some guys on HRT will prob be able to answer that

 

[thelion2005]

your situation:

given one legit 5ml 200mg/ml bottle a month, how would you go about commensing a "permanent" cycle (understanding that it's not really a cycle because the goal would be to never end it). with the half-life of the enth in mind, is there a best dosing schedual to utilize that monthly gram? even if it means using less and accumulating, any ideas are welcome but keep in mind it's for the long run.

secondary to that, would you take hcg every couple months? from the standpoint of trying to keep elevated test created estrogen down, would you take .25mg arimidex (via liquidex) every week or so? not sure if it's all psychological or not, but it seems like that initial "test high" feeling fades and maybe that it has to do with the body raising estrogen levels? someone must know enough about that to give a definitive answer..

100 mg test-e injected each Thursday am and Sunday pm.
0.25 a-dex each Thursday am and Sunday pm.

This would increase test levels in the body at a steady rate while lowering esto levels. Looks like a HRT program.

 

[kgarto]

100 mg test-e injected each Thursday am and Sunday pm.
0.25 a-dex each Thursday am and Sunday pm.

This would increase test levels in the body at a steady rate while lowering esto levels. Looks like a HRT program.

Thank you. Now I suppose it's just a matter of hcg. I have read and re-read postings here and have gathered the following (in basic terms)- hcg jolts your balls into producing test again after they get to thinking they're on easy street from now on. I read that you want to do that because if you're on external test the signal to your balls is no longer sent and eventually might never be sent again if it goes on long enough. So if the test is being constantly administered, even taking hcg is not going to do anything but give the balls a workout in futility, as they are going straight back to lazy land as soon as the hcg is gone. Opinions on that, re: are the balls doomed?

 

[kgarto]

This is what makes me wonder, which I quote from PrimordialPerformance's PCT of 2009:

"You see, when you're on steroids, your brain cuts off the signal to the testes, and your testes stop producing testosterone. Once this happens, your testes shutdown, start to shrink, and become unresponsive to stimulation from the brain (essentially, the testes become desensitized). This is the reason why alot of guys never recover from a steroid cycle even after using tons of hcg and SERM's -- because the testes have stayed inactive for too long and have become permanently desensitized.

Here are a list of problems you can have from waiting untill the end of a cycle to use hcg -

High Possibility of Permanent Testicular Damage/Desensitization
Higher hcg Dose Requirement
Higher Conversion Rate to Estrogen
For a fast and quick recovery of testosterone production after a cycle, you must avoid the long-periods of suppression. Once your testes go unused for too long, it is virtually impossible to get them to come back full strength, no matter how much hcg you take. For more detailed information on testicular degeneration of testicular function during a steroid cycle, see this article."

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/official-pct-2009-a-642825.html

 

[paridhm]

100 mg test-e injected each Thursday am and Sunday pm.
0.25 a-dex each Thursday am and Sunday pm.

This would increase test levels in the body at a steady rate while lowering esto levels. Looks like a HRT program.

I agree. Just split up every 4 days monday / thursday. If you plan to never come off, hcg wouldn't give you and advantage. You will forever need test in your system. Your natural HTPA will forever be destroyed. I'm not breaking your balls, I'm just hoping that you thing about the never come off concept before you commence it.

 

[kgarto]

I agree. Just split up every 4 days monday / thursday. If you plan to never come off, hcg wouldn't give you and advantage. You will forever need test in your system. Your natural HTPA will forever be destroyed. I'm not breaking your balls, I'm just hoping that you thing about the never come off concept before you commence it.

That's what it seemed like- that by taking test at any dose non-stop would negate my HTPA. While I'm sure the decision is going to be a "it's up to you", the push is that without taking it exogenously, there is a deficiency. I appreciate the graviy of what you're saying about my HTPA forever being destroyed, but is there Really no way to keep my balls? Is hcg therapy and a "pause" every 4 months or so the only way?