test enth and weight gain

[columbo200]

I'm just getting on the 5th week of test enth and eq. Last week I noticed a huge jump in strength but my weight has only gone up by 5 lbs. I'm starting to lose a lot of fat and noticing mucle gain as well. I am just wondering when can I expect a jump in weight gain? I'm 5'7 180 lbs right now and I eat around 3000+ to 4000 calories a day. Over 200 grams of protein each day as well.

 

[nydj66]

If you're losing BF while your weight went up 5 lbs that's great. If you want to weigh more you have to eat more; keep the calories up to the 4,000/day end. Also up the protein, 1g/lb of body weight is low when you're on cycle. Bump it to at least 360g.

 

[slimjim1985]

i'm on my fourth week on test e and eq and haven't noticed much yet. be patient you should start seeing more results now. Up your calories slowly and more protein as well. Everyone suggests a crap load of protein but I have never believed a persons body(even on AAS) can use 2 g per lb. Will either use the excess protein for energy or shit it out. Too me its just a waste of money. 250 g protein a day should suffice.

 

[KeepinMyGains]

Don't just rely on the scale it fools many, and they end up quitting I see it time and time again. You should firstly have someone take a full measurement of your waist, chest, arms etc and judge progress that way.

 

[columbo200]

Don't just rely on the scale it fools many, and they end up quitting I see it time and time again. You should firstly have someone take a full measurement of your waist, chest, arms etc and judge progress that way.

I agree for sure i have noticed much more fat free mass. The scale isnt evrything.

 

[Makavelli]

I never weigh myself, I just go by the mirror. I think you are doing well. Just be patient. Also I don't think you need 4000 cals/day. That's a lot for someone that's 180 lbs. I would up your protein to about 250 grams/day, but that's it.

 

[thebigoz]

I never weigh myself, I just go by the mirror. I think you are doing well. Just be patient. Also I don't think you need 4000 cals/day. That's a lot for someone that's 180 lbs. I would up your protein to about 250 grams/day, but that's it.

I would say 400g/day of protein for him.


Can you post your diet? 4000 cals with only 200g Protein is not right...

 

[dabuffguy]

I would say 400g/day of protein for him.


Can you post your diet? 4000 cals with only 200g Protein is not right...

Yes, he needs more protein.


350-400 grams if you want to see some real results.

also, 400o calories and 200 grams of protein means either WAY too many carbs, or WAY too many fats.

 

[dabuffguy]

I agree for sure i have noticed much more fat free mass. The scale isnt evrything.

Losing fat and an increase in 5 lbs total body weight is GOOD progress for EQ and Test E in week 5. That's what you are looking for. It will steadily get better.

If you wanted a dramatic boost in total body weight and strength, you should have included an oral at the beginning of the cycle.

 

[nydj66]

I don't think you need 4000 cals/day. That's a lot for someone that's 180 lbs.

Depends on his level of activity. I'm 180lb and do some type of workout 6 days a week. 3,000 cal/day is my maintenance level. 4,000 cal/day will put 2lb/wk on me.

 

[Makavelli]

I think a lot bb's eat way too much protein. 400 grams a day for a 180 lb guy? No way. I stick to my original of 250 grams a day.

I'm about 240 lbs now and I have a fast metabolism. I only eat 300 grams of protein a day. And when I was doing bulking cycles, I would still only eat 300, but eat more carbs and fat.

When one starts gaining size the calories have to go up accordingly. However just jumping up to 4000 a day is one of the main reasons why people tend to get fat while trying to gain muscle.

 

[thebigoz]

I think a 2:1 ratio for protein to body weight is a good guideline when bulking.

360-400 would be a good amount of protein for him to be taking on board.

I'm at 200lbs now and take in 400g of protein. Without that, I would not be putting on anywhere near as much size.

 

[slimjim1985]

theres no problem and no harm in consuming that much protein. It just comes down to money. Theres only so much protein a person can use effectively to build up muscle. Even BB's. Protein is a expensive source of energy if you choose to eat 2 grams per lb of body weight. Its also an expensive turd you just repainted the toilet with.

 

[columbo200]

I would say 400g/day of protein for him.


Can you post your diet? 4000 cals with only 200g Protein is not right...

typical day
I eat

meal 1 :
-bowl of serial with 250m of skim milk
-4 large eggs
-2 pieces of toast with one teaspoon of butter
-250ml of orange juice
-a bowl of grapes

meal 2 (pre workout):
one scoop of protein in juice
a banana

meal 3 (post workout):
one scoop and half of protein
a trail mix bar

meal 4:
2 fish fillets (sometimes chicken or beef)
complex carbs(either pasta rice or bread)
2 cucumbers
a bowl of baby tomatoes
250 ml of milk

meal 5:
3 packs of yogourt
a bowl of raisins
250ml of milk
some nuts

meal 6:
300 ml of skim milk
1 scoop of protein
1 tablespoon of natural peanut butter


This is a typical day might change a bit here and there and might have a few more small meals in between. What should i omit or increase? i find it hard to have over 40g of protein in each meal without eating the same stuff all the time. What are your suggestions?

 

[columbo200]

I bumped protein up to 300 g a day... its early to tell but I feel like my weight is starting to jump again and i'm feeling more recuped in the morning. I think my diet had a protein defficiency. I'll keep you guys posted after a week or so to let you know whats going on. thanks.