test-e cycle critique

[upperhandy]

week
1-8 test-e 500mg
1-8 novaldex 10mg ed
1-10 fanisteride 1mg ed
1-10 hcg 500iu (250 twice a week)

PCT
week
9-13 novaldex 20mg ed
11 clomid 900mg (300 first day then 100ed rest of week)
12 clomid 550mg (100 ed for 4 days then 50 rest of week)
13 clomid 350mg (50ed)

 

[d_rson]

Looks copied out of a 1980's steroid book.

What's your goal for this cycle.

First, you don't just run nolvadex, just have it handy for gyno. Better to run an ai like aromasin. And you probably will not need anything until a couple weeks in. Don't run an anti-estrogen until needed. I'd have aromasin on hand.

Also no need to run HCG in week 1. Maybe in week 3 if you get shutdown easily, you might not even need it at 8 weeks of test.

Don't need anything week 9 except the anti-e if using it. Then week 10-13 is PCT, but there are much better PCTs than Clomid. Sustain Alpha, Unleashed, HCGenerate. See the Official PCT of 2010 sticky. Shoot, if I took that much clomid, I'd be crying during a Ben Stiller movie.

I'd go atleast 10-12 weeks though. Just me. I don't really feel the test e until week 5.

 

[upperhandy]

Looks copied out of a 1980's steroid book.

What's your goal for this cycle.

First, you don't just run nolvadex, just have it handy for gyno. Better to run an ai like aromasin. And you probably will not need anything until a couple weeks in. Don't run an anti-estrogen until needed. I'd have aromasin on hand.

Also no need to run HCG in week 1. Maybe in week 3 if you get shutdown easily, you might not even need it at 8 weeks of test.

Don't need anything week 9 except the anti-e if using it. Then week 10-13 is PCT, but there are much better PCTs than Clomid. Sustain Alpha, Unleashed, HCGenerate. See the Official PCT of 2010 sticky. Shoot, if I took that much clomid, I'd be crying during a Ben Stiller movie.

I'd go atleast 10-12 weeks though. Just me. I don't really feel the test e until week 5.

thanks for the info... trying to be diligent about putting together an intelligent cycle ... what dose aromasin would you suggest?

anyone else have a perspective to share?

 

[joe d]

the already mentioned changes look good to me.

 

[d_rson]

what dose aromasin would you suggest?

Well, here's what I would suggest.

W 1-10 Test e, 500mg /w (250 Mon, 250 Wed) [you're gonna have to get two vials anyway, so go 10 weeks]
W 3-10 HCG 500iu /w, 250iu twice a week (Or you can start it later like w4 or w5)
(If Needed) W ?-11 Aromasin, 12.5mg E3D (adjust this as needed and only use if you need it)
fanisteride as you see fit.

W 11 is Off everything except the fanisteride and the aromasin (if using) while the Test fades.

W 12 Aromasin 12.5mg ED (for one week)
W 12-15 HCGenerate as directed for PCT
W 12-15 Sustain Alpha (I use the LV, but I am hearing the topical is MUCH better)
W 12-15 Unleashed or Post Cycle as directed

Anyway, that's what I would do. I hope others chime in because it helps to get different perspectives, because in the end we all react differently.

 

[joe d]

Well, here's what I would suggest.

W 1-10 Test e, 500mg /w (250 Mon, 250 Wed) [you're gonna have to get two vials anyway, so go 10 weeks]
W 3-10 HCG 500iu /w, 250iu twice a week (Or you can start it later like w4 or w5)
(If Needed) W ?-11 Aromasin, 12.5mg E3D (adjust this as needed and only use if you need it)
fanisteride as you see fit.

W 11 is Off everything except the fanisteride and the aromasin (if using) while the Test fades.

W 12 Aromasin 12.5mg ED (for one week)
W 12-15 HCGenerate as directed for PCT
W 12-15 Sustain Alpha (I use the LV, but I am hearing the topical is MUCH better)
W 12-15 Unleashed or Post Cycle as directed

Anyway, that's what I would do. I hope others chime in because it helps to get different perspectives, because in the end we all react differently.

i would use the aromasin throughout the whole cycle regardless and add 20mg nolva ed to the month of pct. also i dont see the need for post cycle but definately use the unleshed during the cycle and pct.

 

[upperhandy]

taking notes like mad... thanks for the advice want to do thinks right this time through

anyone else?