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bigboss22

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Hello I am 23 weighing at 165 10% body fat. I've been training for 7 years and have done a couple cycles, deca and sust, and eq only. This is my third cycle. I have all my pct and enough enanthate at 500 mg for 12 weeks and enough eq at 500 mg for 15 weeks. Was hoping to get some opinions on what the best way is to go about taking it. Thanks in advance.
 
Hello I am 23 weighing at 165 10% body fat. I've been training for 7 years and have done a couple cycles, deca and sust, and eq only. This is my third cycle. I have all my pct and enough enanthate at 500 mg for 12 weeks and enough eq at 500 mg for 15 weeks. Was hoping to get some opinions on what the best way is to go about taking it. Thanks in advance.

Sounds like an ok cycle. I would use an AI during the course,,at least a small dosage.
 
@ 165 lbs 10% bf you should be fine w/ 1" pin...23 gauge'll work ..might want to get more test and run it 2 weeks longer then the eq just my $.02
 
I dont want to shut down but I also want to get the most out of my gains. Im thinking on whether or not I should use arimidex and clomid during the cycle, supposedly helps prevent testicular shutdown. whadya guys think?
 
Hello I am 23 weighing at 165 10% body fat. I've been training for 7 years and have done a couple cycles, deca and sust, and eq only. This is my third cycle. I have all my pct and enough enanthate at 500 mg for 12 weeks and enough eq at 500 mg for 15 weeks. Was hoping to get some opinions on what the best way is to go about taking it. Thanks in advance.


You've been training for 7 years, and you've done 2 cycles and you only weight 165 ???

First things first, your diet is not right. You should get your diet on track first before doing another cycle... seriously.
 
bigboss22 said:
Hello I am 23 weighing at 165 10% body fat. I've been training for 7 years and have done a couple cycles, deca and sust, and eq only. This is my third cycle. I have all my pct and enough enanthate at 500 mg for 12 weeks and enough eq at 500 mg for 15 weeks. Was hoping to get some opinions on what the best way is to go about taking it. Thanks in advance.

You've been training for 7 years, and you've done 2 cycles and you only weight 165 ???

First things first, your diet is not right. You should get your diet on track first before doing another cycle... seriously.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read this. I think you've got good advice already about the cycle, however I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask a couple questions:

You're 23
You weigh 165 @ 10% BF
You've been training for 7 years
You've done two cycles of deca/sust and eq only

The question is, how tall are you? Because if you are 4' 6", then you're good to go. But my guess is your not.

So my point is that if you have been training for 7 years and done two cycles, you should be much larger, because that's what those cycles and this cycle would be for - adding muscle. So my question would be, what's your diet and training look like, because IMHO you could probably put on some nice size once you get those inline, without doing another cycle, and then when those are inline, do the cycle and actually grow.

Taking AAS is like having a 1000hp engine in your race care compared to having a 800hp engine in your race car. You have to have good tires, good suspension, and be a good driver - and then the extra 200hp helps you win the race by a couple car lengths. It's not a magic pill that turns a bad diet into a good one, and a bad routine into a good one. If you are going to put exogenous substances into your body, make the most of them by having everything else top notch.
 
You've been training for 7 years, and you've done 2 cycles and you only weight 165 ???

First things first, your diet is not right. You should get your diet on track first before doing another cycle... seriously.[/QUOT

yeah I train to gain lean hard muscle and strength rather than be fat weighing at 200 or whatever.. I weigh 165 with 16 inch arms pure muscle and look bigger and better than a lot of people who are around 180 or higher... weight doesnt matter to me you goof, its about looking good, being strong and having good endurance... not weighing 300 lbs I dont go for the gorilla look! Like I said im 10% body fat.
 
yeah I train to gain lean hard muscle and strength rather than be fat weighing at 200 or whatever.. I weigh 165 with 16 inch arms pure muscle and look bigger and better than a lot of people who are around 180 or higher... weight doesnt matter to me you goof, its about looking good, being strong and having good endurance... not weighing 300 lbs I dont go for the gorilla look! Like I said im 10% body fat.
How tall are you? Can you post all your specs so we can understand fully your profile?

BTW, I'm 200lbs and slightly under 10% BF. I'm definitely not fat.
 
Im 5'11 and I train for track and field, when we take roids our diet and training is different and we do not expect to bulk up too much
 
Im 5'11 and I train for track and field, when we take roids our diet and training is different and we do not expect to bulk up too much
Okay, so what's your goal with this cycle here? I think that will help everyone recommend a complete cycle. I think typically we assume muscle gain, but it sounds like your goals may be different.
 
EQ especially will do that for you ,its more of an endurance drug since it increases RBC,add some test and unleashed to keep the libido happy.


RADAR
 
Hello I am 23 weighing at 165 10% body fat. I've been training for 7 years and have done a couple cycles, deca and sust, and eq only. This is my third cycle. I have all my pct and enough enanthate at 500 mg for 12 weeks and enough eq at 500 mg for 15 weeks. Was hoping to get some opinions on what the best way is to go about taking it. Thanks in advance.

Are you 4 foot 9 bro? Or around there? Never rin the test past the eq. Do it the other way around and please triple the amount of cals you think you are eating now. :biggrin:
 
Are you 4 foot 9 bro? Or around there? Never rin the test past the eq. Do it the other way around and please triple the amount of cals you think you are eating now. :biggrin:

No, I am 5'11 and have already started my cycle, 500 mg eq a week for 15 weeks, and 500 mg enanthate a week for 12 weeks starting on week 3 so my injections finish at the same time. I have all proper pct, just wondering when I should start taking hcg? Also should I be taking any ai during this 15 week cycle? Last thing I want to do is mess around with my nuts. Please answer my questions thank you!
 
I think you could have done a bit more research before you started but its too late now, so I'll answer your questions. I am running a test e, eq, var cycle. I also included proviron throughout and dbol the first 4 weeks.

-Run adex .25mg or .5mg EOD. See how you react to .25mg and if its not enough, increase the dosage.
-HCG can be ran through the whole cycle 300iu-500iu E5D all the way up to a week before PCT.
-Your messing with your nuts when you do AAS. HCG and PCT fixes them if done the proper way.
-You must eat big to get big. AAS are an aid, not muscle in a bottle. If you don't eat right and train hard you do not grow.

Good luck. Ask as many questions as you need, we are here to help.


Needtogetaas:
Why not run test a week after eq?
I thought you run your Test one week longer than the Eq. Eq takes 3 weeks before you can run pct, test takes 2 weeks.
Just want you to clear that up for me. Thanks
 
I think you could have done a bit more research before you started but its too late now, so I'll answer your questions. I am running a test e, eq, var cycle. I also included proviron throughout and dbol the first 4 weeks.

-Run adex .25mg or .5mg EOD. See how you react to .25mg and if its not enough, increase the dosage.
-HCG can be ran through the whole cycle 300iu-500iu E5D all the way up to a week before PCT.
-Your messing with your nuts when you do AAS. HCG and PCT fixes them if done the proper way.
-You must eat big to get big. AAS are an aid, not muscle in a bottle. If you don't eat right and train hard you do not grow.

Good luck. Ask as many questions as you need, we are here to help.


Needtogetaas:
Why not run test a week after eq?
I thought you run your Test one week longer than the Eq. Eq takes 3 weeks before you can run pct, test takes 2 weeks.
Just want you to clear that up for me. Thanks

Thats what Needto ment his post had the Eth at 12 wks and EQ at 15 just a typo mate .

And yes EQ takes about 3 wks to clear with Eth at about 2 wks .

You will have to break all the rules mate to get big while training Track'n'Field ie eating training and volume is just hard to do i was a pro T'n'F and only after i have retired have i got big due to top level training and volume working against me .

Brad.
 
Whats your event...?


It could help us even more to know what training you will have to leave in to stay competitive .


Brad.
 
I assumed he was wanting more of a performance with solid muscle (10lbs) than anything else


RADAR
 
I think you could have done a bit more research before you started but its too late now, so I'll answer your questions. I am running a test e, eq, var cycle. I also included proviron throughout and dbol the first 4 weeks.

-Run adex .25mg or .5mg EOD. See how you react to .25mg and if its not enough, increase the dosage.
-HCG can be ran through the whole cycle 300iu-500iu E5D all the way up to a week before PCT.
-Your messing with your nuts when you do AAS. HCG and PCT fixes them if done the proper way.
-You must eat big to get big. AAS are an aid, not muscle in a bottle. If you don't eat right and train hard you do not grow.

Good luck. Ask as many questions as you need, we are here to help.


Needtogetaas:
Why not run test a week after eq?
I thought you run your Test one week longer than the Eq. Eq takes 3 weeks before you can run pct, test takes 2 weeks.
Just want you to clear that up for me. Thanks

Thanks for the great reply, isnt running hcg throughout the whole cycle too much though? I though running it for about 5 weeks ever 5 days would be good
 
People have their opinions on it. Some do it the last weeks of the cycle at high doses, others do it during pct, and myself and others run it through the whole cycle. I figure if my boys are never put out of commission, it will be a lot easier to recover and I dont have to take the chances of desensitizing them with high doses to get them working again before PCT. The stuff is cheap and its a few extra pins. Why not, cant hurt....
 
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