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test e 500mg cycle any thoughts

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this is my first cycle i really need input to what i have come up with please help

week 1-10 500 mg of testosterone Enanthate monday and thursday (250mg per injection)
1000 mg of milk thirstle ED
450mg of saw palmetto ED
.25mg arimidex
proscar 1mg

wait two weeks from last injection (.25mg arimidex still used until pct commences)
day 1 60mg nolvadex
week1-2
40mg nolvadex
week 3-4
20mg nolvadex
(i have an abundance of both nolvadex and clomid so any input for post cycle therapy if i should do both or just one please comment)
im eating a strict paleo diet but adding protein powder due to the fact that ill be taking in 400 g per day. i will put up my whole diet if people think its necessary but im more concerned about my cycle. im also using assault for pre workout and muscle pharm armor-v for multi vitamin..

any input into my cycle would help thank you..
 
What are your stars bud?
Age
Height
Weight
Body fat
Training experience
Etc.

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def. need stats.. and im not a fan of nolva / clomid for pct.. do some research on post cycle and unleashed
 
Considering your age is ok ......., to be very frank, your PCT is total garbage. Theres alot of info especially here on EF. Get to reading and researching. There are sooooo many drugs/peptides/sarms/supplements, ect that can be used/combined to have a very effective pct.
There is a specific PCT forum here too to read in.
 
I'm 25 yeas old Ive been training in wrestling since I could walk, weight training since I was 15 but hardcore since 17. Been doing crossfit football and crossfit for 4 years. I'm at 200 lbs (ten percent body fat) I'm a professional fighter and competition seems to be getting inhumanly strong so I decided to dip into the world of test. I don't know my body stats due to the fact I'm not a bodybuilder and am looking for strength not size.

Bench 325
Squat 405
Clean 260
Press 195
Deadlift 515
 
All I have is clomid and nolvadex and seems to be sufficient for most cycles just wondering how would be the best way to use them I've been reading about post cycle for six months now and read so many mixed reviews
 
Considering your age is ok ......., to be very frank, your PCT is total garbage. Theres alot of info especially here on EF. Get to reading and researching. There are sooooo many drugs/peptides/sarms/supplements, ect that can be used/combined to have a very effective pct.
There is a specific PCT forum here too to read in.

This ^^^^

Adex is not for pct either. Its during cyc..

Pct unleashed for pct no clomid or nolva shits older than me!
 
this is my first cycle i really need input to what i have come up with please help

week 1-10 500 mg of testosterone Enanthate monday and thursday (250mg per injection)
1000 mg of milk thirstle ED
450mg of saw palmetto ED
.25mg arimidex
proscar 1mg

wait two weeks from last injection (.25mg arimidex still used until pct commences)
day 1 60mg nolvadex
week1-2
40mg nolvadex
week 3-4
20mg nolvadex
(i have an abundance of both nolvadex and clomid so any input for post cycle therapy if i should do both or just one please comment)
im eating a strict paleo diet but adding protein powder due to the fact that ill be taking in 400 g per day. i will put up my whole diet if people think its necessary but im more concerned about my cycle. im also using assault for pre workout and muscle pharm armor-v for multi vitamin..

any input into my cycle would help thank you..

Nolva can cause rebounded gyno and ed ( erectile dys. )

Clomid can hv bad mood changes and sides.

Unleashed increases free testosterone without suppressing HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis), by lowering SHBG (Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin). So even if you are suppressed, you can have HIGHER testosterone than most normal guys. This is an amazing advantage when trying to recover


Post Cycle covers all the other bases
It lowers estrogen, detoxifies the liver, reduces bloat caused by estrogen, and promotes erectile strength – all things of a major concern in post cycle therapy. You can find more information on Post Cycle here.

Toss milk this buy n2guard.

So 01-10 500mg of test
9000mg of omegas fish or krill or flaxseed from cosco is fine.
Adex .25 eod or .50 eod or cut it out and just run forma that you can run all the way to pct and thru.
Hcg is an option too! I always run it.

Pct two weeks after last inject run for five weeks.
 
Thanks man I'll deff look into unleashed and post cycle. I do understand clomid and nolva have there side effects but the ones I have are FDA regulated and I know what I'm putting in my mouth..so I don't know what I'm going to do
 
I know I have been preaching this a lot but I would start with 250 on test. U can always bump it up if need be. 250 could be plenty for u to grow just like it is for me. Start small and build up. Focus on diet and training and u will grow.

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Thanks man I'll deff look into unleashed and post cycle. I do understand clomid and nolva have there side effects but the ones I have are FDA regulated and I know what I'm putting in my mouth..so I don't know what I'm going to do


Ive never had a problem with clomid and still use to use it sometime just bc I have had it but I will never agian. Am the type of person that keeps shit in stock like a store!

But the truth is it's old and its time to get 2012 instead of 1980.

Hey remember the Zach Morris cell phone from Saved By The Bell? Well that prob = to clomid

Apple I phone = pct/unleashed
 
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I think I'm going to take it down to 400 mg a week and pct clomid 50/50/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20

Dude you don't need Nolva or Clomid!

GOOD: AI = better gyno control BAD: AI = worse cholesterol
BAD: serm = no progesterone protection GOOD: serm = better cholesterol

"Clomid & Nolvadex - The Dark Side
By Eric M. Potratz (Email)
Eric M. Potratz has developed his education in the field of endocrinology and performance enhancement through years of research, counseling, and real world experience. Over the past five years he has been a private consultant for hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders alike, and is the founder & president of Primordial Performance.
discuss this article in the forum
Preface - Over the past 15 years, the use of Clomid and Nolvadex, as Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs) has become a staple in the HRT and bodybuilding communities.
The popularity of these drugs stems from the popular advice to use these drugs for everything from testosterone recovery, bloat reduction, to gyno prevention. In many communities SERMs have become akin to vitamins -- vitamins that can do no wrong and provide seemingly endless benefits.
This article is not intended to examine the proper use or possible applications of Clomid or Nolvadex. Instead, we will be exploring the historical development of these drugs, the short-term side-effects and long-term consequences.
As I will illustrate, these drugs are true danger to mens health.
Synthetic estrogens, the beginning -
It was the 1930s and there was a new age of hormone-dependant pathologies on the rise. Scientists were eager to determine the structural requirements of estrogen for new drug design.
In 1937 Sir Charles Dodd of the Middlesex Hospital of London found estrogenic activity in a molecule with two benzene rings linked together via a short carbon chain (eg, diphenylethane). (1) Soon thereafter, a synthetic, non-steroidal estrogen known as diethylstilboestrol (DES) was created from this basic molecular backbone. (1) By 1941, DES was an FDA approved drug, and by the 1950s, DES gained widespread popularity as the drug of choice for menopausal symptoms, cancer treatment, and prevention of miscarriages. (2)
DES sparked the interest of ambitious drug manufactures that saw this synthetic molecule as a potential molecular backbone which could be tailored for estrogenic activity, and patented for maximum profit.
Within months, a research group from the University of Edinburgh found that the addition of a benzene ring to the original diphenylethane structure created an somewhat of an anti-estrogen known as triphenylethylene. (1) Although it had very weak estrogenic activity, it was called an anti-estrogen because it competed with the bodys more powerful estradiol for the ER receptors.
Although the complex estrogenic action of triphenylethylene was not fully understood, it was considered the perfect molecular platform for future drug development because of its high oral bioavailability and extended half-life due to its lipophilicity (fat solubility). As it was later discovered, the estrogenic action could be manipulated with structural modifications for more specific agonist/antagonist actions. (3) Despite the lack of understanding for its full physiological effects, triphenylethylene would become the molecular backbone for generations of SERMs to come.

By the early 1940s, the worlds largest chemical manufacturers, including Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), got word of the triphenylethylene development, and seized the opportunity to expand this new class of compounds. By the 1950s, the synthesis of new triphenylethylene based molecules had began picking up momentum, as the first FDA approved SERMs started appearing on the market.
One of the first was Triparanol, which was sold as a cholesterol lowering SERM, until it was eventually pulled from the market in the 1950s for causing cataracts in patients. (7) Later, Ethamoxytriphetol (MER-25) was discovered and found to be a reliable contraceptive and anti-cancer agent in rats, but failed in humans due to the drugs severe toxicity and stimulation of acute psychotic episodes. (6)
Despite these early warning signs, development continued.
Among one of the newer SERMs to appear in the late 1950s, was a mixture of two stereoisomers -- zuclomiphene and enclomiphene -- both having unique estrogenic and anti-estrogen actions. This mixture was collectively called clomiphene, and later marketed as Clomid.

Then, in 1962, ICI synthesized ICI-46474, another mixture of a trans and cis isomers with mixed estrogenic and anti-estrogenic activity. (7) Ultimately, the trans isomer was found to be the predominate anti-estrogen, which was isolated and eventually named tamoxifen, and later marketed as Nolvadex.
Originally, ICI pushed these new SERMs to market as a morning after contraceptives, which were eventually approved by the FDA. (4) Yet again, the profit hungry and presumptuous drug manufacturer based its findings on rat studies, which would prove to be a mistake upon subsequent human research that showed the SERMs induced, rather than inhibited ovulation. (4) Needless to say, tamoxifien was withdrawn as a contraceptive.
And remember DES, the original synthetic estrogen developed back in the 1930s? As it turned out, DES was found to increase the risk of breast cancer by 50%. Further research linked DES to millions of vaginal and testicular cancers among the children of mothers who took DES during pregnancy. (2,5)
The light on synthetic anti-estrogens was dim, and by the late 1960s, there was little enthusiasm to continue R&D with triphenylethylene based SERMs, especially considering their inherently toxic effects (7, 10)
It wasnt until 1971, that tamoxifen would be dug up from the dead and considered as a candidate for cancer treatment.
Treating cancer with a carcinogen
When research is done on anti-cancer drugs (such as SERMs), the aim is to find a drug that prolongs life, with the least amount of acute side-effects. In other words, the goal isnt so much about finding a cure, as it is finding something that can alleviate the symptoms and/or prolong life.
For an estrogen dependant cancer, the idea was simple Block the proliferative action of estrogen with an anti-estrogen and slow the cancer growth. What could be more appropriate than an already available, orally active, patentable synthetic estrogen such as tamoxifen? It was a practical shoo-in.
Therefore, in 1971, when drug researchers decided to examine all of the historical anti-cancer SERM data, they found that all of the SERMs showed anti-proliferative activity on estrogen dependant cancer, and all of them demonstrated some extent of toxicity. (10, 37-39) However, the SERM that happened to show the least amount of toxicity was tamoxifen. (clomiphene missed the mark by showing a high rate of cataract formation)
At the time, Pierre Blais, a well known drug researcher, commented on the finding (5) -
Tamoxifen is a garbage drug that made it to the top of the scrap heap. It is a DES in the making."
In spite of the criticism from a number of researchers, the FDA approved tamoxifen as a cancer treatment in 1977, and in 1985 ICI was awarded a US patent for tamoxifen in the treatment of breast cancer. (5) Soon, tamoxifen would become the most popularity prescribed cancer drug.

But you know what your taking it's FDA approved. Yep! sure is!

its FDA approved for cancer treatment. It must be safe!
Its wrong to assume that an FDA approved drug has a proven safety profile. The FDA has continually issued stronger health warnings for tamoxifen over the years. For instance, in 1994 the FDA demanded that the tamoxifen manufacturer Zeneca (an ICI sub-division), issue warning letters to health care practitioners about the increased risk of endometrial and gastro-intestinal cancers with tamoxifen use. Zeneca also reported adverse effects similar to those seen with DES, such as reproductive abnormalities in the animals whose mothers received tamoxifen. (remember, DES was the original synthetic estrogen, and also an analog to tamoxifen)
A number of cancer researchers have pointed out the health risks too, such as Elwood et al (6) -
[Tamoxifen], therefore, is not appropriate for use in the general population because of the known increased risk of endometrial cancer
So why is tamoxifen the most popularly prescribed cancer drug, if its so toxic?

The answer is simple. Tamoxifen is the lesser of two evils.
Tamoxifen remains the most popularly prescribed drug because it is one of the few drugs that has shown a statistically significant improvement of the survival rate of breast cancer patients.* (Not to mention, tremendous financial motives and intraworkings from its patent holder Zeneca)
Remember, the goal in cancer treatment is to prolong life -- even if it means committing to therapy that is potentially cancerous or injurious to future health (as confirmed in long-term follow ups and close examinations of tamoxifen patients).
So, perhaps the risks are worthy for the cancer patient, but are they worthy for the health conscious male?
* Most research has shown tamoxifen to improve the survival rate by 4-14%. For instance, over a 5 year period, 74% of the women survived who used tamoxifen, compared to 70% of the women on placebo. Depending on the type of cancer, this may translate into an extra 2-3 years of life for a cancer patient. (9) Continuing tamoxifen therapy for more than 5 years, results in increased tumor recurrences and serious side effects. (8)
Translating the science, for mens health -
Fast forward 30 years, through hundreds of human and animal trials and we find that the research is quite extensive, and contradicting. (21)
The damaging evidence from many early rat studies showed severely toxic effects, including the development of cancer in the liver, uterus, or testes upon tamoxifen administration. (30-34,41) However, this evidence was largely disregarded by further test tube studies on human cell-lines which appeared to show a lack of toxic effects. (21)
This misleading test tube data gave the green flag to perform large scale human studies with tamoxifen in the 80s and 90s. Even more misleading, was the majority of the human research described tamoxifen as having a low incidence of troublesome side effects and that the side effects where usually trivial. (22)
As science would uncover, the lack of human toxicity reported in original tamoxifen research was a result of insufficient study duration, inability to detect low level DNA damage with insensitive methodologies, and/or misdiagnosis of collateral cancers as metastasis infections from the breast cancer itself. (15, 21, 28-34)

A word on clomiphene (Clomid)
Clomiphene (Clomid) consists of two stereoisomers which possess radically different pharmacodynamics. Zuclomiphene has predominantly estrogenic effects and slow clearance while the enclomiphene isomer has predominately anti-estrogenic effects and quick clearance. (9) This creates a dichotomy between estrogen blockage and estrogen stimulation and an acute imbalance once Clomid administration is discontinued. Bodybuilders will often complain of estrogenic rebound after stopping Clomid, which could be attributed to the lingering estrogenic isomer zuclomiphene as the anti-estrogenic enclomiphene has long cleared the system. (Recently, enclomiphene has been isolated by the pharmaceutical company Repros, for use in Androxal.)
For all intents and purposes, tamoxifen is a superior SERM, simply for the fact that tamoxifen provides a purely anti-estrogenic isomer, whereas Clomid provides a mix of anti and pro estrogenic effects.
In regards to the health consequences about to be listed, it can be safely assumed that Clomid will share similar detrimental effects as tamoxifen, since it shares the same triphenylethylene backbone and carcinogenic tendencies. (44,45,57,58)
Liver cancer -
Originally, tamoxifen was accepted as being non-toxic to human liver upon finding that tamoxifen did not cause noticeable liver damage (DNA adducts) during short-term test tube studies with human liver cells. (35,36)
However, it became apparent that test tuberesearch was largely flawed due to the low rate of metabolism in such a superficial environment. (21) It was soon discovered that the hepatotoxic effects from tamoxifen are from the metabolism and buildup of the a-hydroxytamoxifen and N-desmethyltamoxifen metabolites, which would only appear in an in vivo environment. (15) Surely enough, the results from the original rat studies showing dramatic carcinogenic effects on the liver, 30-34,41 soon correlated with human data when researchers found the same type of liver DNA adducts in tamoxifen patients. (15, 28-34)
More recent human research has reported tamoxifen treated women to have 3x the risk of developing fatty liver disease, which occurs as soon as 3 months into therapy at only 20mg/day. (24-26) In some cases, the disease lasts up to 3 years, despite cessation from tamoxifen therapy. Five and ten year follow-ups with patients on long term tamoxifen therapy shows cases of deadly hepatocellular carcinoma. (27-29)
In 2002, a bizarre study examined the use of tamoxifen for hepatocellular carcinoma treatment in humans. It was assumed that since tamoxifen could inhibit proliferation of breast cancer, it could offer the same benefit for liver cancer. The devastating results could not have been further indicative of tamoxifens hepatotoxic nature, as the tamoxifen treatment significantly increased the rate of death, compared to the group not receiving tamoxifen. (14)
Finally, in a case study reviewing tamoxifen induced liver disease; D.F Moffat et al made a profound statement
hepatocellular carcinoma in tamoxifen treated patients may be under-reported since there may be reluctance to biopsy liver tumours which are assumed to be secondary carcinoma of the breast.
In other words, it appears that the liver carcinoma from a large number of breast cancer patients on tamoxifen therapy has been misdiagnosed as an infection from the breast cancer itself. (28)
Although tamoxifen induced liver cancer may take years to manifest in a healthy male, its damaging effects could easily be exaggerated by other popular hepatotoxic drugs, such as 17aa oral steroids. (15)
Prostate cancer -
In 1996, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) concluded that tamoxifen clearly promotes uterine cancer in humans at a standard 20mg/day dose. (16,23,42) This is due to tamoxifen acting as an estrogen agonist in the uterus, presumably from the 4-hydroxytamoxifen metabolite, which triggers abnormal growth of the uterus and the formation of cancer causing DNA adducts. (33, 40)
Contrary to popular thought, these implications are quite scary for a male when we realize the male equivalent to the uterus is the prostate which differentiates from the same embryonic cell line, shares the same oncogene, Bcl-2, and high concentration of estrogen receptors. In fact, there is no reason to assume that tamoxifen would not initiate the same cancerous growth in the prostate. (60-62) It is no wonder that tamoxifen failed as a treatment for prostate carcinoma. (43)
Note: This same risk would be applicable to Clomid, which has also been linked to uterine cancer and ovarian hyper-stimulation. (18, 19, 57, 59)


Libido reduction & erectile dysfunction -
Erectile dysfunction, low libido, and general impotence are typical complaints from men recently discontinuing steroids or HRT therapy, which is often combated by Clomid or Nolvadex, paradoxically so.
Regardless of any positive effects on fertility or testosterone levels, Clomid and Nolvadex use is highly correlated with erectile dysfunction, libido suppression, and even emotional disorders. (10,47)
Research with male breast cancer patients has also reported decreased libido, and thrombosis associated with tamoxifen use. (47) The thrombotic effect (blood vessel clogging) could explain the mechanism by which SERMs may inhibit erectile function, by reducing circulation to erectile tissue.
Increased susceptibility to gyno -
Tamoxifen is often used to combat gyno during cycle when flare ups occur. While tamoxifen may provide immediate inhibition of proliferation, and serve as valuable tool, it can actually increase future susceptibility to gyno.
This is caused by tamoxifens ability to up-regulate the progesterone receptor. This can dramatically increase the chances of developming gyno in future cycles when utilizing progestin based anabolics such as Nandrolone (Deca) or Trenbolone (or any pro-hormone acting upon the progesterone receptor).

It is interesting to speculate. Is tamoxifen use directly related to the increased gyno occurrences seen with modern day steroid users?
Ocular toxicity
Another possible side effect associated with SERMs is visual cloudiness, loss of vision and even cataract formation. Although this tends to be a more common side effect from high dosed SERM therapy, standard 20mg/day tamoxifen regimes have been reported to cause these symptoms of ocular toxicity. (17, 46)
Newer SERMs -
As the medical community became more aware of the side-effects associated with tamoxifen treatment, newer and safer SERMs, such as toremifene and raloxifene hit the developmental fast track. Toremifene appears to be less liver toxic, but it is a closely related analog of tamoxifen, so it also carries many of the related genotoxic effects. (48,49)
Raloxifene is a newer SERM based off a benzothiophene structure, which appears to make it less toxic in the liver, uterus or prostate. (50-52) Unfortunately, Raloxifene has been associated with a higher incidence of thromboembolism (52), and also has very low oral absorption, making it an expensive alternative at a typical dose (120mg/day). (53) Still, Raloxifene could presumably be equally effective as Clomid or Nolvadex at restoring HPTA function, while imparting less side effects. (53)
Newer SERMs are already being evaluated such as bazedoxifene, arzoxifene, and lasofoxifene, in hopes of reducing risk even further. (further enumerating the evidence of toxicity with the tamoxifen generation of SERMs)
*
What to do now?
Firstly, it should become a priority to create awareness about the possible side effects of SERMs. Once educated, users will be able to start reducing their requirements of these drugs, and begin adopting healthier, more responsible alternatives.
Carefully planned cycles, and the proper use of aromatase inhibitors (AIs) must pursue over haphazard combinations of excessively dosed aromatizing AASs -- which require high doses of SERMs to reduce possible side-effects. Whereas avoiding SERMs in HRT will involve the natural clearance and management of endogenous estrogens.
It will be important to maintain testicular function during cycle for a quick and efficient recovery of natural testosterone production for PCT negating the need for high dose 2-3 month SERM based PCTs. (For more information on the proper use of hCG during cycle, visit here)
Thus, abolishing the bad habit of SERMing will involve community wide enlightenment with careful, comprehensive planning of worthy alternatives.."

too much to high light


Tell ur ol'lady or man have fun wit your dick cause one day if you keep using this shit it will be gone but likewise if you get man boobs just get ah sex change you'll be good
 
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* Xanthoparmilia Scabrosa: 50mgs
* Urtica dioica: 100 mgs
* Ashwagandha: Standardized to 1.5%Withanolides 500 mgs

Why don't you go and try and search for Xanthoparmilia Scabrosa on the internet? Guess what.. you will not find it, but you will find XanthoparmElia Scabrosa on the internet and anyway even though it is in the labido boosting category, it is also said to be a toxin. It looks to me like PF has tried to hide this little ingredient by mispelling it... sly.

"Toxic Herb Alert - Xanthoparmelia scabrosa Esters are Unsafe
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Jim Lewis, president of National Nutritional Foods Association-Midwest Region (NNFA-MW) is calling on all dietary supplement suppliers and natural products retailers to investigate the products in their inventories that may contain the herb Xanthoparmelia scabrosa, and to seek legal advice to determine if they should continue to sell these products.

"As the market for male sexual health supplements continues its popularity among consumers, it is imperative to police ourselves and ensure that safe products are offered,¡¨ Lewis stated. ¡Research on the herb Xanthoparmelia scabrosa has clearly demonstrated toxicity in specific low doses. To prevent another ephedra fiasco, it makes sense to respond accordingly to the science when that research demonstrates possible harm or adverse reactions."

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Everything is this world is toxic at some point there are adverse side effects to every drug out there.. You can break down any drug and the side effects will sound like the ending to every prescription commercial. It's all about the dosage and the period of time you will be on it.. Now luckily this will be my only cycle and will only be on nolvadex for 28 days... Now you on the other hand you being on many cycles throught your life will be the one having to worry about your dick flipping inside out and having a nice set of tits..make sure you send me a pm when that happens..maybe then we can talk then..
 
Hey, step it up run test, tren, deca, and winny shit ur only gonna do it once right?

Then run clomid 200/100/50 21 days
Nolva 40mg ed 21 days

Hv fun

Yes, even food is toxic smart guy
 
Hey, step it up run test, tren, deca, and winny shit ur only gonna do it once right?

Then run clomid 200/100/50 21 days
Nolva 40mg ed 21 days

Hv fun

Yes, even food is toxic smart guy

after reading the whole thread this is a good suggestion for OP
 
This ^^^^

Adex is not for pct either. Its during cyc..

Pct unleashed for pct no clomid or nolva shits older than me!

I am just getting back to this forum after 2 years... I am wondering about this "Unleashed" you keep talking up. I found some on needtobuildmuscle.com and was wondering if it was what you where discribing?
 
I swear to god elite fitness is all a bunch of people working for supplements

No one here works for that! Were here to gv advice cause weve been the rats tested stuff and know what works! Alot of us hv been doing this shit all our lives! We do blood test panels in every which direction! We know the sources behind the source so we know we can trust.

You've never even done a cyc before you know nothing about AAS! We try to help you and other stubben ppl. Place ur own judgement some where else or join anther forum perhaps theres tons of them!
 
I swear to god elite fitness is all a bunch of people working for supplements


have you ever tried unleashed?

btw I dont work for any supp companies, i dont get paid, dont get referrals. nothing

i just know what its like to try everything out there and get basically nothing for your money.. and then i know what its like to finally find a good product that actually delivers results

seriously nolva/clomid vs unleashed.. unleashed KILLS it by a landslide.
 
I swear to god elite fitness is all a bunch of people working for supplements

Harsh bro I'm located in wales UK have no affiliation with any of the sponsors and buy the products because for me personally they work.

A number of the UK guys like it so much we requested a UK supplier stock the stuff from N2 to prevent lead times with shipping etc.
That is " predator nutrition" they are so impressed with the products they have sponsored this forum also (feb 1st 2012) as so many guys swear by the products on here. I can go and buy nolva / clomid cheaper but I am not prepared to cheat myself (or suffer the sides) after a cycle of pinning for numerous weeks and wave all my gains behind
There a guys on here with a lot of experience Willing to give solid advice free of charge to prevent the less experienced making mistakes that they themselves have sometimes made..
Nobody is "making" you ask buy take the advice offered.. Personally I think this forum is priceless....
 
Alot of us hv been doing this shit all our lives!

Gee mother milk is used for PCT?? All your lives???


Hey OP don't by into the BS. I have been on this forum off and on for a long time and it never changes. Before gear grinder all the "supplement" guys sold gear or pointed you to who did. Now it's PCT and supplements. It's up to you if you want to waste your money.

Why do you have milk thistle in your stack?? You are taking nothing that impacts the liver so shit can it.

And what about the saw palmetto. Wait until you have an enlarged prostate before you shovel that shit down your throat.

So that's two thing you don't need.

You say you are 25 and in good shape. Never done a cycle before so why do you think you need any PCT. You're virgin son. Your body will bounce right back.

So do the 8 to 10 weeks of test and forget all the other stuff. You could take a non-aromitising steroid such as Oxandrolone/Anavar. This will help keep your strength levels up so you can still hit it in the gym. That is what keeps you from losing your muscle. Hitting it hard in the gym. When you stop taking test you have a drop off in your ability to train hard. Var will help stop that.

So do the 500mg per week of test for 8 to 10 weeks. two weeks before you stop take some var. Continue for two weeks after cycle with the var. Amount depends on what you can get but keep dosage small.

Eight weeks after your cycle have blood work done. You can use directlabs.com and you don't need to pay a doctor to order your tests. I would bet money that, if what you said about yourself is true, you will be in a normal or near normal testosterone range.

And if you don't believe me about the supplements just look at all the adds on this, and every other steroid, site. The amount they help is so small, if they work at all, is just not worth the money.


And by the way you should read this: Toxicity of aromatase inhibitors may explain lack of overall survival improvement

It seems that the aromatase inhibitors are TOXIC.
 
Sorry for coming off as an ass I think I'm just kicking myself for buying all this shit before talking to people like you now I'm stuck with all this post cycle stuff an no money I guess I'll save up during my cycle and buy some unleashed

Thats why they always say do your research and put yo time in before jumping the gun. Hell, if you got nolva/clomid run it if you don't want to but Post/unleashed. It's been used for years as PCT. Figure out your dose and run it. These guys on here no what they are talking about. They wouldn't use it if it didn't work. Not just recommending bunk supps for the hell of it.
 
Gee mother milk is used for PCT?? All your lives???


Hey OP don't by into the BS. I have been on this forum off and on for a long time and it never changes. Before gear grinder all the "supplement" guys sold gear or pointed you to who did. Now it's PCT and supplements. It's up to you if you want to waste your money.

Why do you have milk thistle in your stack?? You are taking nothing that impacts the liver so shit can it.

And what about the saw palmetto. Wait until you have an enlarged prostate before you shovel that shit down your throat.

So that's two thing you don't need.

You say you are 25 and in good shape. Never done a cycle before so why do you think you need any PCT. You're virgin son. Your body will bounce right back.

So do the 8 to 10 weeks of test and forget all the other stuff. You could take a non-aromitising steroid such as Oxandrolone/Anavar. This will help keep your strength levels up so you can still hit it in the gym. That is what keeps you from losing your muscle. Hitting it hard in the gym. When you stop taking test you have a drop off in your ability to train hard. Var will help stop that.

So do the 500mg per week of test for 8 to 10 weeks. two weeks before you stop take some var. Continue for two weeks after cycle with the var. Amount depends on what you can get but keep dosage small.

Eight weeks after your cycle have blood work done. You can use directlabs.com and you don't need to pay a doctor to order your tests. I would bet money that, if what you said about yourself is true, you will be in a normal or near normal testosterone range.

And if you don't believe me about the supplements just look at all the adds on this, and every other steroid, site. The amount they help is so small, if they work at all, is just not worth the money.


And by the way you should read this: Toxicity of aromatase inhibitors may explain lack of overall survival improvement

It seems that the aromatase inhibitors are TOXIC.[/

Don't buy into the BS?

What's BS....?
 
You can use this and do your own research and make your own decisions. Yes, always run an AI! To keep you e levels down! Your nolva you didn't waste money bud! just save it if you get a flare up or signs of gyno!

Steroids Side Effects

Most of the time, when steroids are mentioned, they’re brought up as the reason a particular athlete can run so fast, hit so many home runs, or make so many tackles. They are also claimed to have extraordinarily harsh side effects and for causing severely unforgiving and permanent damage. Everybody´s seen movies like "The Program" where steroids ruin a young athlete´s life, or perhaps "The Aaron Henry Story" on HBO, where a young athlete suffers lifelong problems from his steroid abuse. Most recently, I saw the movie "Spiderman" where the villain, the Green Goblin, admits to having his superhuman strength and psychotic personality from using "performance enhancers"!

I´m here to assure you that those types of horror stories are few and far between, and after consulting with literally hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders, I´ve almost never heard of anything even remotely resembling the popular "horror stories" we see in the media almost daily. I´ve certainly never seen anyone become Green Goblin-like from using them, either.

By reading this article, coaches, athletes, parents and teachers will learn the truth about anabolic steroid side effects, and will be able to make their own informed decisions regarding them. But I suspect that after reading what I have to say, as well as what the scientific literature says, the question of how bad steroids are will be a different question entirely; the only question remaining will be "why didn´t anyone tell me this before?"

When I initially started research for this piece, I consulted not only real-life athletes who had vast experience with anabolic steroid use, but also scientific and medical journals. The picture that unfolded before me was very different from the one typically painted by the mass media, and certainly much different than the one I found on Anabolic Steroid Abuse - National Institute on Drug Abuse, Davis Education Association, and Home | National Institute on Drug Abuse. Honestly, my research on the governmental sites revealed very little useful information. There were numerous unfounded claims, and plenty of talk about money being put into “studies”. In reality, the government "studies" on anabolic steroids were not medical studies at all. They were surveys given to various age groups, on steroid use, in order to generate statistics. There was nothing of medical value or scientific merit on those sites, despite the endless parade of doctors that seemed to be against their use. Here´s an example of one of the more absurd claims made on one of those sites:

"..[steroids] they are dangerous drugs, and when used inappropriately, they can cause a host of severe, long-lasting, and often irreversible negative health consequences. These drugs can stunt the height of growing adolescents, masculinize women, and alter sex characteristics of men. Anabolic steroids can lead to premature heart attacks, strokes, liver tumors, kidney failure and serious psychiatric problems. In addition, because steroids are often injected, users risk contracting or transmitting HIV or hepatitis.."

This is the information found on a government website, in a piece written by a doctor. I´m surprised she didn´t mention turning into the Green Goblin in her list of possible health side effects. As you read what I have to say, I want you to keep this in the back of your head. I want you to remember this claim, made by a medical doctor, as you read the rest of this piece. All of the information here is exactly what has been reported to me by athletes, as well as what is found in credible scientific journals. Review the information and decide for yourself how harmful steroid side effects can be.

Anabolic Steroid Side Effects:

1. Inhibition of Natural Hormones

The inhibition of natural hormones is likely the most common and probable side effect experienced from the use of anabolic steroids. In almost all cases, taking hormones will send a message to your endocrine system to reduce or stop producing it. This is because your body wants to remain in a very balanced state -- called ‘homeostasis’. To maintain homeostasis, the body seeks to avoid having too much or too little of any particular hormone. In the case of anabolic steroids, the brain signals the testicles to slow down, or even stop producing (depending on the type and amount of steroids taken) testosterone when there is too much circulating. Unfortunately, this happens when any kind of hormone is added into the body, so even if an athlete is not using testosterone, but is using other anabolic steroids, the body will still send this signal 99% of the time. Of course different steroids cause varying degrees of inhibition ranging from total shut down of endogenous (natural) testosterone production, to very mild reductions, where some natural hormones are still being produced and circulating. In almost all cases, this inhibition is over once the steroids aren´t active in the body anymore. In the following charts, we can see a mirror image of the level of activity during steroid (Nandrolone) administration, compared with the level of natural testosterone being produced. In other words, as the level of steroid rises (chart 2), the level of testosterone falls (chart 1), and vice versa.


Now, as that first chart shows, testosterone levels fell when Nandrolone (an anabolic steroid was administered, but interestingly, the following chart shows an almost identical mirror image, where the Nandrolone levels in the blood rise. What this indicates is that the amount of this particular steroid in the blood is directly and proportionately inhibiting natural testosterone production. Here´s the chart:


Most athletes who use anabolic steroids accept all of this as a necessary price to pay in order to experience the benefits from using steroids. In an effort to combat this, athletes have experimented throughout the years with various compounds to avoid or at least limit this problem. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, anti-estrogens, and Selective Estrogen Receptor Antagonists (SERMs) are all used during a cycle, or after (or both) with this goal in mind. The following table shows the various hormonal levels of former steroid users who haven´t used them for a year (*called "ex-abusers" by the nice people who funded the test) versus current users (*abusers):


What we see in this chart is not surprising to anyone who is actually familiar with steroids, and not with media-hype. In people studied who haven t used steroids for a year, ALL of their measured hormones (testosterone, estrogen) were within the NORMAL RANGE! Clearly, the effects that steroids have on your hormones are reversible and the horror stories we’ve all read in the media about people who never regained normal hormonal function after one cycle are greatly exaggerated. I think anyone who is familiar with "After School Specials" about steroids will be very surprised at learning this fact. As for "The Aaron Henry Story" on HBO, I can t imagine how he has suffered side effects well into his 40’s when the steroid users in this study were totally fine after one year, and in some cases used more than he did!

(*Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. 84 (2003) 369-375)

2. Steroid Effects and Liver Damage

Liver damage is probably the most sensationalized of all the possible steroid side effects. The media often focuses on this particular problem as if it occurs with every steroid, and in every person who takes them. Nothing could be further than the truth. Most anabolic steroids which are ingested orally pass through the liver, which functions as the body´s filtration system. When something goes through the liver, it is broken down by various enzymes, then passed along into the bloodstream. Most research on orally administered anabolic steroids focus on the fact that liver enzymes are elevated following ingestion. But does this necessarily mean that the liver is being damaged, does it? Of course not. Commonly, studies that focus on steroid toxicity often use absurd doses, or incorrectly focus on liver activity instead of damage. The liver functions as the filter for the human body, it´s going to be activated whenever something (not just a steroid) passes through it. Does that show that steroids damage the liver? Let´s see what the scientists say.

There was an eight-week study done in 1999, which looked at the effects of an 8-week cycle of oral steroids. The steroids examined were Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone), Dianabol (methylandrostanolone), or Winstrol (Stanozolol) on rats at the dose of 2mg/kg-body weight, administered five times a week for 8 weeks. That s almost 200mgs/day of any of those steroids, for a 200lb user. That is, generally speaking, much more than the average person would use on a cycle. In fact, I have never, in my years of researching steroids and speaking with athletes, heard of anybody using even close to 200mgs/day of Halotestin, Winstrol, or Dianabol, ever!

At the end of that study, in vivo, each rat still had liver enzyme levels that were within normal range!

(*Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1999 Feb;31(2):243-50, Rat liver lysosomal and mitochondrial activities are modified by anabolic-androgenic steroids. Molano F, Saborido A, Delgado J, Moran M, Megias A.)

In another study, 16 bodybuilders using steroids were compared to 12 bodybuilders who were not. Then the bodybuilders who had used steroids stopped taking them for three months, at which points, the researchers found that liver enzymes had returned to the same levels as the non users. After only 3 months!

(*Int J Sports Med 1996 Aug;17(6):429-33, Body composition, cardiovascular risk factors and liver function in long-term androgenic-anabolic steroids using bodybuilders three months after drug withdrawal. Hartgens F, Kuipers H, Wijnen JA, Keizer HA.)

We can see from the chart below that ex-steroid users have totally normal liver enzymes one year after they stop using. In fact, for some liver enzymes, even the current users have normal scores!


(*Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. 84 (2003) 369-375)

3. Steroid Effects on Cholesterol (Blood Lipid Profile)

Steroids can lower HDL cholesterol, and raise LDL cholesterol. HDL (high density lipoprotein, commonly referred to as "good cholesterol") helps to protect the arteries by bringing unused cholesterol to the liver where it is broken down. LDL on the other hand has the opposite effect. Some steroids can therefore cause high cholesterol levels with low HDL and high LDL. Some steroids are, of course, very mild on blood lipids, while others are notably harsh. In both cases, however, it is likely that a return to within normal parameters would occur shortly after steroid discontinuation.


4. Gynocomastia (Development of breast tissue in males)

The development of gynecomastia or feminization of the breast tissue in males is possible with anabolic steroids. This is due to an excess of estrogen being present in the body, through a process known as "aromatization" whereby androgens like testosterone are converted to estrogen. This excess estrogen then finds its way to the receptors in breast tissue and binds to them. This results in the possibility of female-like breast tissue, which must sometimes be removed by surgery. Most athletes experience itchiness of the nipples, followed by pain. Since this develops over several days, usually, the athlete has more than enough time to discontinue the use of the compounds he´s taking, or to attempt to counteract the breast tissue development while remaining on the cycle. The two most common ways to counteract gynecomastia are the use an anti-estrogen like Nolvadex or Clomiphene Citrate (best taken post-cycle) or Letrozole, a very strong Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)/anti-estrogenic compound is employed during cycle to effectively starve the growth of nourishing estrogen.

The initiation and progression of breast development involves a variety of pituitary (and ovarian, in women) hormones, as well as various local mediators. As you can see in the following chart, testosterone has the ability to aromatize (convert to estrogen), and eventually become part of the cascade of hormones that contribute to the development of breast tissue:


(GYNECOMASTIA: ETIOLOGY, DIAGNOSIS, AND TREATMENT Chapter 14 - Ronald S. Swerdloff, MD, Jason Ng, MD, and Gladys E. Palomeno, MD, March 1, 2004)

5. Acne and Anabolic Steroids

Anabolic steroids can cause the development of acne. However, the extent to which it is experienced can be due to a number of varying factors, with the particular steroids and exact dosages used being primary. The skin´s sebaceous glands have a particularly high affinity to Dihydrotestosterone, which is an androgen the body naturally produces from testosterone via the enzyme 5-alpha Reductase. Increased sebaceous gland activity promotes oily skin which can combine with bacteria and dead skin (normal wear and tear) eventually causing pores to become clogged more quickly than the body can cleanse them. This of course, is preventable by using only particular steroids, cleansing the skin regularly, and perhaps using a topical anti-androgen.

(1. Am J Clin Dermatol. 2002;3(8):571-8. 2. Clin Dermatol. 2004 Sep-Oct;22(5):419-28. 3. Pol Merkuriusz Lek. 2004 May;16(95):490-2.)

6. Roid Rage

Increased aggressiveness is often claimed to occur with anabolic steroid use. Although it´s highly rare (less than 5%), significant psychiatric symptoms have been found in some steroid users, including aggression and increased violence, mania, and even psychosis. However, it must be noted that in the studies performed there was no control group, making their results spurious at best. It can be logically assumed that naturally aggressive people (those with certain aggressive traits) are simply more inclined to use steroids, which further skews any research results. Can steroids enhance such aggressiveness? Possibly. Can steroids be to blame for anti-social, psychotic, "roid-rage" type of behaviors? Probably not. The evidence just isn´t there to support that such theories.

In fact, a landmark study was performed which examined different doses of testosterone administration on men aged 20-50, who had a variety of experience with steroids from having used them previously to not at all prior to the study. A variety of psychological tests were performed at the outset of the study as well as at the end. It was found was that no participant in the study had become violent as a result of the testosterone injections they had been receiving, although some said they felt more aggressive. This clearly indicates that there is a high level of control over possible violent or aggressive behavior that can result from steroid use. The researchers also noted that in terms of the psychological tests performed, some subjects showed little or no response to testosterone, with regards to psychological measures, while others experienced significant changes. Thus, general temperament clearly plays a large role in how one responds psychologically to steroid administration. In addition, when this study was compared with others, similar results were found:


Out of 109 cases studied, only 5 people exhibited Psychological (Manic or Hypomanic) effects. (*Archives of General Psychiatry, Volume 57, February 2000.)

7. Steroids and Baldness

Steroids can possibly cause men to start balding if they have a genetic predisposition towards Male Pattern Baldness. The gene for baldness is thought to reside in the X (male) chromosome exclusively, so a good general indication of whether someone is genetically predisposed towards being bald is to look at the men on their mothers side. Chances are that if the majority of them are bald, then the person will be carrying that gene too. The reason steroids can cause premature balding is that the scalp reacts to Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) quite strongly, and many steroids can either convert to DHT or are derived from it. Some anti-baldness medications can prevent this, such as Finasteride and Dutesteride. This is, of course, merely a cosmetic effect, and poses no real health issues. It could be catastrophic to a potential career with any one of a number of 80´s rock bands, but other than that, I can´t really see any real problems associated with hair loss; especially since it can be avoided when proper steps are taken and certain steroids are avoided.

8. Cardiovascular Problems from Anabolic Steroids

Anabolic steroids have been linked with cardiovascular issues. Part of this may be due to their effects on Blood Lipids (see above). But some of it is due to the fact that many steroid users have been found to have enlarged ventricles. This is actually very common in bodybuilders as well as powerlifters and other types of athletes, and is more indicative of the effect of weight training on the heart, rather than solely steroid use.

9. Virilization (Development of male characteristics in women)

This term refers masculinization, or development of male sexual characteristics that females could potentially suffer from steroid use. This side effect on women is often reversible after steroids are discontinued. Some typical signs of virilization are the development of a deeper voice, hirsuitism (growth of excess body hair), enlargement of external genitalia (clitoral enlargement), and possible male pattern baldness, or acne on the face or body. This is all dependent, of course, on the compounds used as well as the dosages employed. Personally, I have witnessed the most permanent of these effects to be the deepening of the voice due to the hypertrophy (growth) of the vocal chords. This is typically the most unwelcome side effect, as it makes it very obvious when a woman is using steroids. Of course, if this begins, the best course of action is to cease taking all steroids immediately. There are several ways to reverse this effect, the most common being to undergo a medical procedure known as vocal chord scraping. And yes, it´s exactly what it sounds like.

10. Stunted Growth (height)

The use of some steroids can possibly stunt the growth potential of still maturing children, teens and young adults. This is only possible with certain steroids, and not with others. In fact, certain steroids have been used in clinical settings to improve growth rates in children. It is probable that the premature closure of the epiphysial cartilage, which is most likely caused by aromatizable steroids, will lead to a possible growth inhibiting effect, and could ultimately result in a shorter adult height. This is most likely an irreversible side effect, as the growth plates would have fused and can not "re-open". Anavar (Oxandrolone) has been used to improve the height of growth stunted children, and it is probable that most other DHT-derived steroids could also be used for this purpose as could certain anti-estrogens.

In 99.9% of humans, the process of bone elongation ends at around the mid to late teen years. At this point, the growth plates are obliterated and disappear, after which no more elongation (typified by an increase in limb length, i.e. height) can take place. Elongation of the bone occurs here and at a second epiphysis at the end. The proliferation of the cartilage happens very quickly, actually fast enough to keep ahead of the bone generation that´s "chasing" it, called ossification, which is just the replacement of cartilage by bone. As long as the cartilage growth "stays ahead" of the bone, you grow taller, as bone replaces cartilage. When the bone finally catches the cartilage (because the cartilage slows its growth rate, not the bone), it ossifies, and "seals" the growth plate.

Here´s a growth plate picture, enhanced by radioactive dye (GP= Growth Plate), so you can sort of see the bone "catching" up with the cartilage.


(Human Anatomy and Physiology, 6th Edition, John W. Hole jr., Wm. C. Brown Publishers.)

10. Prostate Enlargement

Once again, this is only a possible side effect, but steroids can potentially cause enlargement of the prostate. The media-perpetuated claim of possible prostate cancer seems to be wholly unfounded, according to most research. In many cases, this enlargement is quickly remedied upon cessation of anabolic steroid use. The first period of prostate prostate growth, occurs during puberty and occurs as a result of the testicular secretion of androgens. Then, much later on in life, there is often a second stage of growth. Although this was originally deemed to be a result of Dihydrotestosterone’s actions in the body, it is more likely due to estrogen combined with a small amount of either DHT or Testosterone. Thus, it’s not hard to imagine that taking steroids can potentially cause this type of prostate enlargement and cause trouble for a steroid taking athlete. Typically, a product such as Finasteride or Dutesteride is taken to avoid this problem, with a high degree of success.

11. High Blood Pressure

This problem is possibly the most easily remedied of all steroid side effects. It’s very common for steroid using athletes attempting to gain maximum bulk to abstain from all aerobic activity. This causes the body to work much harder to circulate blood. The typical water and sodium retention induced by certain steroids can also contribute to this side effect. If blood pressure is measured regularly to ensure that the value is not higher than 140/90, there should be no problems.

12. Kidney Problems

Certain anabolic steroid usage may place greater strain on the kidneys. Since kidneys are involved in the filtration and excretion processes, when a foreign substance is administered, they necessarily work harder. Some steroid users have noticed very dark urine while on a cycle, and this is indicative of the kidneys working overtime to accomplish their goal. One of the major offenders of this seems to be Trenbolone, which turns the user’s urine a very dark color. This problem is alleviated when enough water is consumed daily. Also, even though I know you’re probably getting sick of hearing this from me, the possibility of side effects is dependant on the dosage and type of administered compounds. Some steroids (Nandrolones) are even used to help treat people with kidney problems! So clearly, they aren’t as bad as they’re made out to be with regards to possible negative kidney-related side effects.

13. Immune System Changes

There is a large amount of data indicating that anabolic steroids may have some effect(s) on modulating the immune system. As with most potential side effects, this is largely dose and compound dependent. There is strong evidence that different analogues impact the immune system in differing ways. Testosterone and certain analogues have been shown to be possibly immunosuppressive, while Nandrolone and still other compounds have demonstrated immunostimulating properties. Both, however, have been found to be beneficial when given to AIDS patients, who clearly have an already compromised immune system. This is because the increase in lean body mass that those steroids can provide is consistent with an enhanced ability to fight off infections, enhanced survival rates, and a better quality of life.

(1.Int J Immunopharmacol. 1995 Nov;17(11):857-63. 2. J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 1990 Sep;37(1):71-6 3. AIDS. 1996 Jun;10(7):745-52. 4. Journal of Neuroimmunology 83 1998, 162-67.)

14. Growth of Excessive Body Hair

As expressed above in ‘Virilization’ steroids typically cause an increase in body hair growth. In a manner very similar to adolescence, the period when hair sprouts in places it formerly wasn’t due to the exposure of unusually high amounts of sex hormones, steroids serve as a synthetic initiator. Quite simply put, the rapid influx of sex hormones stimulates body hair development. This side effect is occurs in both males and females, and the hair growth can appear anywhere on the body with the exception of the head (where the opposite effect is sometimes seen due to the large number of DHT receptors). In women, this hair growth most often increases in traditionally manly locations on the body such as the face and back, but also increases on the legs, armpits, pubic region, arms, torso, hands/knuckles and feet. Although steroid discontinuation, reverses the irregular growth, it does not reverse or thin any hair grown during steroid administration. For men, such hair growth is barely noticeable except among the decisively less hairy members of the population, and even then it doesn’t really present a problem.

Effects of androgenic-anabolic steroids in athletes. Hartgens F, Kuipers H., Sports Med. 2004;34(8):513-54.

14. Water Retention and Bloating

Bloating, a.k.a. excess water retention is a very likely side effect of specific anabolic steroids. Generally speaking short-ester testosterone (Testosterone Propionate) and DHT-derived steroids (with the exception of Dianabol) do not cause significant bloating. Some 19-Nors, Dianabol, and medium to long-ester testosterones have a greater aromatization rate and excess estrogen typically (but not always) equates to greater muscle blurring water retention. For this reason such steroids are often included within bulking cycles and avoided during cutting cycles. Also contributing to the bloating are moderate to high levels of sodium, sugar, and synthetic sweetners like those found in diet drinks.

It's true that estrogen is required for optimal muscle development, which often makes bloating is an acceptable side effect during off-season training. Thus, there are periods of training during which athletes and bodybuilders are less concerned with, and affected by bloating. However, when seconds count, success is measured in inches, and muscular presentation readiness is of great importance, bloating is often off-set in numerous ways. Firstly, the above high propensity for bloating steroids and food sources are avoided. Secondly, with regard to steroid use AIs and SERMs (anti-estrogenics explained earlier) are employed to reduce estrogenic activity, and thereby promote lean, bloat-free physiques. The third weapon against bloat used by the athlete comes in the form of diuretics which flush extra fluids from the body. Some are mild (mostly mineral & herbal), others (mostly prescription) can be harsh, but both should be used respectfully to prevent debilitating cramping which can hinder both performance and presentation.

Psychological characteristics of adolescent steroid users. Burnett KF, Kleiman ME., Adolescence. 1994 Spring;29(113):81-9., Counseling Psychology Program, School of Education, University of Miami, Coral Gables, Florida 33124.

16. Sterility in Males and Females

Temporary sterility is a common side effect of steroids in both males and females. In fact, anabolic steroids are so proficient at this that they have actually been studied and approved by the World Health Organization as a male contraceptive possibility. Steroids do this by disrupting the various hormones in women which potentiate the ability to have regular menstrual cycles. In men, steroids lower Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) to the point where normal production of sperm is not possible. This isn´t to say that nobody on a cycle has every conceived; quite the opposite, actually. There' ve been legions of "happy accidents" reported to me by athletes who were on cycles and thought they couldn´t possibly conceive.

Sterility caused by steroids is temporary, of course, and reverses post-cycle. This reversal is typically sped up by the post-cycle therapy which often involves the use of SERMs such as Nolvadex or Clomid , and/or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin.

(1. Fertil Steril. 2004 Jan;81(1):226. 2. Urology. 2000 Oct 1;56(4):669.3. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1985 Oct;61(4):746-52 4. Fertil Steril. 1994 May;61(5):911-4. 5. Andrologia. 1985 Sep-Oct;17(5):497-501 6. Urol Clin North Am. 1986 Aug;13(3):455-63.)

Steroid Effects Myth:

Believing Everything You Hear

Ok, so this last side effect isn´t really a steroid effect at all. But it’s true, nonetheless. It´s my hope that you read this entire article and were surprised and possibly even a little outraged. Maybe you were outraged with how casually I seem to treat a very serious topic, but more likely than not, you were outraged at the fact that most of what you´ve come to believe about steroids and their reportedly horrible side effects has been greatly exaggerated. The simple fact of the matter is that anabolic steroids, like any medication, can cause a host of unwanted side effects. I´m certainly not suggesting otherwise. What I am suggesting is that a more logical and rational view be taken of them. The literature suggests that these drugs are safe when used in a clinical setting; my numerous interviews and experience with athletes suggests that this also holds true outside the clinical setting.

Please don´t misinterpret my position as being pro-steroid, anti-media, or anti-government. To do so would be to miss the point of this work entirely. I have the utmost respect for the media for providing the services that they do. I also have the utmost respect for the government and those who serve this country.

Anabolic steroid side effects are a very real and possible concern for those who decide to use them. My position, therefore, is one that I hope is consistent with both the media’s as well as the government’s position. I simply wish to tell the truth, and allow my reader to make the best and most informed decisions possible. In that regard, I think this article has served its purpose.



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