Test/dbol or Test/fina

[LOCO1]

Hey bros. Which is better for bulking taking side effects into consideration. I am 21 5'7" 155 lbs with 19%bf
I know the bodyfat is too high, I am planning on cutting soon. This bulking cycle will occur January at the earliest. My first cycle was Ttokkyo Eq at 400mg/wk 1-6 and 600mg/wk 7-8 I didn't get shit off of that but I didn't eat right, train really intensely and I got it from someone who has a sticky thread about them at the top of the page.

heres what Im thinking:

WK TEST CYP DBOL(reforvit)
1.........500.............25
2.........500.............25
3.........500.............25
4.........500.............25
5.........500
6.........500
7.........500
8 500

I know people may want he Dbol upped to 40 or 50 mg but i am worried about side effects

WK TEST CYP FINA
1...........500..........75EOD
2...........500..........75EOD
3...........500..........75EOD
4...........500..........75EOD
5...........500..........75EOD
6...........500..........75EOD
7...........500
8...........500

I have about 24 clomid tabs, I dont know if that enough. I'm worried about side effects mainly acne. I know fina can give you some bad cases of that. I dont think I can get accutane only retin a. The dbol route is the one I think I prefer but since I've never done test I don't know how I will react. Everyone raves about fina so I am curious. I also am under the impression that fina can help reduce estrogen conversion.

How much nolvadex would I need and what should I do to protect my hair? I've never had an acne problem and I don't think I'm predisposed to hairloss. My brother is but he pulls his genes from the other side of he family.

 

[Hankrr]

I usually like to combine all three, You could possibly do the first four weeks with the dbol and then the second four weeks of tren. I usually like all together though.

I don't get acne from the tren but it sure makes my hair fall out like nothing else......sucks

Hank

 

[The TEST of Truth]

Hankrr, your hair falls out from fina? Yikes! How old are you?

Loco, 25mg dbol is a good number.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I would try to get the body fat down a little before you hit a bulk cycle. Diet and cardio will get it down then hit up a nice bulk cycle. D-Bol-Test or Fina-Test would both be good choices but I would combine all three

M18

 

[Hankrr]

Yikes! I'm 46......You weren't suppose to ask that!

 

[LOCO1]

Mustang, I am planning on cutting for the next two months. I've been trying to get my bodyfat down for years but I always start slipping after a few weeks. I'm really not liking how soft I've started to look and i have eca, clen and yohimbine on hand so i figure my best opportunity is now. I'm in school now so it may be difficult to find time along with my studies but they have a nice weight/cardio room here.

I think I would prefer to use dbol because it would be easier for me. I'm basically afraid of outragous bloat from combining it with test. Maybe I should just make sure to get plenty of nolva, propecia, and some retin a.

 

[big4rt]

I am going test/ dbol.

 

[ZeroCool]

Loco it sounds like you have access to good products. But if you want to bulk and then cut why spend all the money. Try throwing some Winny in there. Mustang helped me out with my last cycle and he gave me suggestions for my next bulking/cutting cycle. Why not try Winny/Test/Fina.

Just a thought because I am trying to bulk as well and that is what many people have suggested to me.

 

[LOCO1]

Im not too versed on winny. I do know it is expensive and it is usually used for cutting. My impression is that it is pretty weak but i'm sure Im wrong on that. I have a book so I'll read up on it and thanks for the suggestion. I want to get big but dont want to look fat. would it be possible to get 15-20 with that cycle?