test/d-bol/winny

[REDMACHINE]

I am doing a short cycle this winter. It is short because I need clean piss by April. What can I expect from this short cycle. Currently 6' 250 15%bf, 2nd cycle. I plan moderate cardio just to keep heart up and diet as follows:

Protien 400+
carbs 7-800 (90% complex)
cal. 7-8000

wk1-3 dbol 25mg ed
wk1-6 sust 500/wk
wk1-6 winny 50mg ed
clomid to follow
(should I take Cytadren on 6wk cycle?)

want to go 10-12wks just cant, 6 or nothing until summer

Any feedback welcome

 

[Thaibox]

Even though its low doses, you might as well shoot yourself in the liver and get it over with.

D-bol + Winny = liver chunks in your shit

 

[Grainger]

Yeah....I have a good one...start you Winny at the end of week two and run it for the same amount of time. The reason for this is that you will using gear right up to the point where you need to take clomid....(maybe a two days before).

I say this because you will need to wait 2 weeks for your longest ester (sust) to clear.


That will also be plenty of time for the winny to clear your system.

You could also run the dbol another week or 2.

 

[REDMACHINE]

Is 25mg dbol ed high enuf? or make it 40-50mg ed

 

[Golden_Muscle]

Is 25mg dbol ed high enuf? or make it 40-50mg ed

It sure is high enough. Start with 15mg and see how you react if you never used it b4.

 

[REDMACHINE]

how about the cytadren?

 

[Grainger]

I don't know, I never used that stuff. You may want to run the d-bol for the first 3 - 4 weeks and then start the winny. I think that you can extend your cycle and still be clean by April...heck that is a ways off..

 

[REDMACHINE]

Im not starting until at least thanksgiving maybe 2nd week of dec. would it be better to keep the same or run winny 3-6, cant extend -wk8 to be safe...

 

[BigAndy69]

If you're going to run Test for 6 weeks, use prop...not sust!!!

Pick one oral and run it for 6 weeks.

 

[HGH man--Chargeback]

If your going to get 400gms protien , 800 gms carbs, and 8000 calories a day . That leaves 2600 calories of Fat . And I was told by "The Almighty" why the Fuck would you take Winny and D-bol at the same time! Take D-bol for first 3 weeks. But thats way to many calories. Cottage cheese ,low-fat P.B.and J,Egg whites and low-fat swiss cheese. With a cycle that long watch the go on and watch it go off. Try Equpoise with the D-bol. You can still do another cycle before Spring. Save the winny.

 

[bigbench]

Just like BigAndy said, definitly drop the sust and switch to prop or suspension. You'd be waisting your time almost with the sust. Some people don't have it kick in till the 5th week and by then you done.

 

[Aikido]

I like sust but it takes to long to kick in....for me at least. It took me until week 5 to really feel it at 500mg a week (250mg Mon. and 250 on Thurs.). I would go with prop for your test and drop the winny. I did dbol at 30mg ED for 5 weeks. I felt that kick in around week 1 but I wish I did 40mgs now that the cycle is over. My body does not react well with lower dosages. I just finding this out now at cycle 4. Everyone's body will react different. So don't modify your cycle based on what I do but based your cycle on how YOUR body reacts. Start low and work your way up. If I could go back knowing what I know now and using your plan I would do this:

week 1-6 Prop 500 or 600mg a week
week 1-6 dbol 40mg ED
week 3-6 proviron 25 mg ED
end with clomid therapy

And do the usualy, lots of water, milk thisle and your 3 daily vitamins plus 3000mg of vit. C daily.

JM2C
Good luck and plan it right since you don't have much time!
Aikido

 

[MrRTTB]

Iwould drop the winny, add fina and bump the dbol to 40mg week one then 35 second, then 30 - 30 - 25.
Try a fast acting test.

 

[body72]

how about the cytadren?

I used it at 250 mg ED 125 morning, 62,5mg afternoon and 62,5 mg evening, everything works fine no water retention or gyno syntoms. At that dose i haven't suffered any sides but it's not a mild drug so be very careful....
I'm not a big dose BBer and when i used it i was running 500 mg test a week and 30 mg of dbol ED.

Bye
be safe
Body