test cyp and anadrol cycle log.

[weewheels]

hi. im starting an anadrol and test cyp cycle log.
im keeping a log to help keep my motivation diet and training as strict as possible and for a reference point for other considering a similar cycle as i struggled to find a decent cycle log on similar cycle.
i will throw up some before pics very shortly, (once i figure out this damn camera).
my current stats beginning of this week are 190 lbs, at fairly low bodyfat not measured however so im not going to guess.
current max lifts are
squat : 220 kg proper powerlifting depth.
deadlift :250 kg no straps
bench :150 kg no pause on chest 145 with a pause on chest.

my cycle plan is as follows
week 1-2 50 mg anadrol daily
week 2-4 75 mg anadrol daily
week 5 100 mg anadrol daily

weeks 1-12 test cypionate 500 mg per week
auxilaries: nolvadex, milk thistle, multi vits, and glutamine throughout.

pct:
HCG weeks 1-12 500 ui week
week 13 150 mg clomid daily
week 14 100 mg clomid daily
weeks 14-16 50 mg clomid daily
weeks 12-16 10 iu slin per day (post workout) (i am aware of most peoples opinions on this drug however i absolutely love it, and it will help maintain some of the hard earned muscle post cycle)

diet:
4500 calories per day (may be upped if necessary depending on results and as weight goes up.)
30% protein 340 g protein
40% carbs 450 g carbs
30 % fat, mostly from flax seed oils and from fish (just love salmon)

if any of you guys have any input or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism feel free to comment.
i started first tablets and pins this morning so i will keep posted on results as they come.

 

[eClenbuterol]

Looks good bro..

 

[rambleon]

Expect insane strength and a LOT of water. Especially since u chose to use nolva in place of a real AI.

 

[ALIN]

Keep us posted bro,,,looks like you got it down.

 

[weewheels]

i opted for nolva mostly for the effects of the oxy's,cause theyre a dht derivative they dont aromatise, if i have it right its the oxy's themselves that effect the estrogen receptors directly (at least thats the theory.) so an aromatase inhibitor wouldnt do much use, which is why i opted for the nolva being a SERM they directly effect the binding ability of the estrogen receptors.
i think an AI would be a better choice for the estrogen from test aromatising but i am one of the very lucky people who arent particularly prone to gyno problems from test especially on only 500 mg of test, so im happy enough to take the extra water retention. (while looking like a muscley marshmallow man).
do you think i would be better incorporating an AI as well during the cycle, i have never run drol before so i am well and truly open to any advice you guys have here. i have some proviron left over from a previous cycle so i could throw some of that in at 50 mg per day if you think that would help much, or would be necessary.
im glad you guys like the cycle lay out im really excited to get into full swing of things on this cycle. i have noticed very slight increase in puffiness around my legs and face, and vascularity is reducing a little already.
have any of you guys ever run a similar cycle?? results??

 

[jimmy04]

prop and a50's put on like 16lbs in 4wks come off and lost about 12lbs lol all water tho piss like a cammel for about a week. only used 50mg anadrol tho so 150mg will add a lot more. anadrol has no estro sides all prog? i too am very lucky with test and tits lol
1000mg has not itched my tits at all.

 

[rambleon]

i opted for nolva mostly for the effects of the oxy's,cause theyre a dht derivative they dont aromatise, if i have it right its the oxy's themselves that effect the estrogen receptors directly (at least thats the theory.) so an aromatase inhibitor wouldnt do much use, which is why i opted for the nolva being a SERM they directly effect the binding ability of the estrogen receptors.
i think an AI would be a better choice for the estrogen from test aromatising but i am one of the very lucky people who arent particularly prone to gyno problems from test especially on only 500 mg of test, so im happy enough to take the extra water retention. (while looking like a muscley marshmallow man).
do you think i would be better incorporating an AI as well during the cycle, i have never run drol before so i am well and truly open to any advice you guys have here. i have some proviron left over from a previous cycle so i could throw some of that in at 50 mg per day if you think that would help much, or would be necessary.
im glad you guys like the cycle lay out im really excited to get into full swing of things on this cycle. i have noticed very slight increase in puffiness around my legs and face, and vascularity is reducing a little already.
have any of you guys ever run a similar cycle?? results??

I ran 750 mg test e ew
with 100 mg abombs ed

Used nolva like u're going to after my nipples got puffy.

I have to say that this was the cycle i held most water on ever. I felt like i was carrying Lake Michigan around. It was probably also one o the best strengthbuilders i ever did. I didn't like it due to all that water tho. Abombs is one compound i'm not going to touch again.

I do hope it will be better for u tho. Keep us posted.

 

[weewheels]

thanks for the input rambleon how does the water retention on a bombs and test compare to test alone, i have ran test ent and dbol with nolva before and held surprising little water for the cycle, again only 500 mg test and 30 mg dbol per day.
just back from training back and tri's. strength was up a little mostly on my rows and chins probably a placebo effect but strength increase is strength increases. though im not sure how the chins are going to fare over the enxt few weeks if the water retention is as heavy as im led to beleive and the massive weight increases off the oxy's. will be interesting to keep an eye on. pump in triceps especially was incredible, i couldnt even wash my face after the gym.
still working on getting them before cycle pics up. willge them shortly.

 

[weewheels]

nipples felt little sore today so started my nolva, a little earlier than i had expected, much too early for the test to be building much any appreciable amounts of estrogen so its definately the oxys. feeling a little fuller this morning, so much so that i cant touch my right shoulder with my right thumb without a lot of difficulty, got a similar effect off of tren though. look a little heavier, and again less vascularity, will weigh once a week only to keep an eye on results.
diet was ok today, but suffering like hell with hayfever. hopefully wont efect too much tomorrow for shoulders and trapz.
jimmy, the efects of oxy's if i remember right, arent to do with progesterone either. as far as i know its the oxymetholone itself. it actually interacts with the estrogen receptors without actually aromatizing or changing in any way. thats the most plausible explanation i have heard for it anyways. its a dht derivative so it cant aromatise, but with the water retention and sore nipples, i dont think any lifter in the world will argue the estrogenic effects of it.
keep yas posted.

 

[weewheels]

hello again.
im looking a little heavier todaty and agression is definately up. good during training, not good during work.
was training shoulders today, most of the workout went well, until shoulder presses came up, my training partner was lifting the dumbell up for me during the warm ups. but kind dropped the weight on my right arm instead of setting it down and pushed my shoulder back a little, but enough to hear a nice pop, i stopped pressing, did a few light lateral raises but stopped after 2 sets cause of niggling pain and called it a day. rotator cuff feels a little sore now. little pissed, will ice and rest of for a while, hopefully will be good to go by shoulder day next week, chest day may have 2 be cancelled this week to be on the safe side as well. not a great way to kick start the cycle, but i suppose we injuries are part of the game. just time off training feels like a waste of gear, never know maybe the increased water in the joints from the oxy's, and the recovery ability from them. heres hoping.

 

[slimjim1985]

It does make it feel like a waste, but unless you seriously injured yourself, keep at it. I've had to stop a cycle because of a shoulder dislocation. Just take a little break from all exercises that involves shoulder movement like chest, back, shoulders. Maybe do some rotator cuff exercises with 3-5 lb weights. Its pays to be on the safe side. You can concentrate on other muscle groups, legs, calves, abs. Hell even maybe some forearms. You have to watch out for the increased strength, it will probably make you feel as if you can lift a house although you shoulder might not be ready. take it slow. best of luck bro

 

[weewheels]

thanx slim, ill wait a few days for any swelling to go down before i attempt any rotator cuff exercises, im taking cod liver oil and glucosamine to help any tendon and tissue damage. i was lucky enough thhat i was still warming up, although on the heavier end of warming up (40 kg dbells) any heavier and i would prob have done some proper damage.
sorry to hear about the shoulder dislocation. hopefully this isnt too serious. ill prob cancel all upper body work this week and just train legs as usual. haha i wouldnt train forearms any more, they grow like weeds even off the gear.
i was wandering if you guys might have any advice on best rehabing shoulder to help speed recovery, ice, heat stretching etc?? or just complete rest till i can do rotator cuff exercises.
cheers. on a side not water retention is starting to show a little around my neck and face now. i know its just water but im enjoying the pumped up feeling.

 

[slimjim1985]

no problem bro. I've delt with nothing but shoulder problems and countless doctors and physical therapists. I'm not a doctor so I couldn't tell you what really happened to your shoulder and the best way to approach the rehab. when I worked with Physical Therapists, almost all fresh/new injuries would be treated with ICE. NO HEAT especially if its inflamed. Heat just increases blood flow to the area and will only agitate it while inflamed. Heat would only be used for comfort after someone is comfortable doing rotator exercises. If you have some electrical stimulation to get the muscles pumping, thats always fun and shown to improve recovery, but thats for immobile parts after surgery and such, but it cant hurt. Apply cold to the hurt shoulder as much as you can while it is still inflamed/sore to move. Give your shoulder rest for the time being till you feel your ready for light rotator cuff exercises. Therabands work best for rotator injuries.
Remember not get ahead of yourself. Trust me I've been there thinking its all good, and then juice pushes me beyond my limits and then bang, i'm back to square one.

 

[slimjim1985]

I forgot... I read a study recently that said, Ice followed with heat helps the recover faster than Ice alone. Although I'm skeptical. Every Physical Therapist I've ever known has always used Ice. Heat SUCKS. ICE is the way to go whenever there is an injury.

 

[weewheels]

sounds good, ill keep using ice, avoid the heat treatment till pain is all but gone. keep the supplements up to provide the nutrients for recovery. not sure the ice is going to do much though cause its right in the rotator cuff from what i can tell, so icing the delts the cold will prob struggle to get through to the joitns itself. cant do any damage tho
shame im not on deca, that would have been handy for the shoulder, but deca hates me, i blow up with water more on 200 mg/week of deca than i do with as much as 750 mg/week of test and it makes my nipples sore almost instantly.

 

[slimjim1985]

No, Ice will help. Ice and Anti-inflammatories such as Advil. It doesn't have to be surface pain for ice or heat to help. Ice decreases blood flow to entire area including rotator cuff injuries. Most shoulder injuries are rotator cuff injuries.

 

[weewheels]

well lads, good old leg training today.
diet was a little over shot today, im sitting at just over 5,000 calories already with another meal to go, all clean calories though so wont do any harm on bulking cycle, just got really hungry today. feel great on the drol, feel like im being pumped up, will find out 2moz with my weekly weigh in, and might do weekly pictures to watch progression on the gear.
feeling very coky on elgs today so pre-exhausted quads with leg extensions, for 5 sets, then knocked out 3 grueling sets of 10 with 160 on squats then moved on to hams. must say the weights felt very comfortable today on the joints, wasnt expecting the drol to have much of an easing effect on them. got horrible pumps in my lower back squatting though, felt like it was going to explode.
shoulder is starting to feel much better as well, started rotator cuff exercises and stretches to keep thigns moving as well as keeping the icing up. keep yas posted.

 

[weewheels]

weighed in this morning forgot to do it yesterday before eating, so it wouldnt be a fair weight. 165 lbs this morning that a pretty decent increaser of 5 lbs, i know its mostly water weight, but its still ncie feeling that little bit bigger.

 

[weewheels]

sorry didnt realise i wrote 165, make that 195 last morning.

 

[weewheels]

havent posted in a few days, so keep updated.
still gradually gaining weight and strength on cycle. more so on chest shoulders and legs. usually its my back that gets stronger first on gear. nice change!!
my knee's felt great during my last squat workout so i decided to bring my strength levels back up a little and managed to squeeze out sets of 4 reps at 200 kg, (proper depth of course). not bad since i havent squatted over 170 in three months.

 

[topgeezer355]

I'm running near enough the same cycle mate. Simple but effective!

800mg test cyp ew
100mg week 1-4 anadrol ed
20mg nolva ed

I've always run deca along with test in the past but I thought i'd try it without this time.(mainly to see how much the deca has contributed in the past)It's also my first time on anadrol, always used Dbol as a kick starter before. Coming to the end of week 4 and have been suprised with the results of the drol on me.(gone from 200pound to 209,BF level at 12%)The weight increase has been good solid gains though, no water trouble, very vascilar appearance when training and great pumps and a big strength increase. I've had no sides what so ever as yet.Now i know that drol is a mixed bag depending on the person but it has seemed to agree with me. Alot of people put alot more weight on than that in 4 weeks with drol but you need to realise that I have kept a ripped appearance and not blown out with water weight. I'm also now starting to feel the good sense of well being as the test cyp is kicking in as well.