test bloat and esters

[Max Expansion]

this is a really basic point but one i could never get my head around regarding test esters!!

is bloat and weight gain on test (diet aside) and the differences between esters literally only attributable to estrogen conversion

ie, on an AI, will all tests be the same. so the supposed cutting qualities of the short acting prop ester, are literally just due to the fact that the prop half life is short so the test doesnt have time to convert.


Is that the case

is bloat just due to test^e2 conversion

so in theory AI=no bloat

cheers

 

[splperformance]

bloat to me is on a case by case basis and has a lot to do with diet...ie. sodium = salt = water retention...high sodium diets on any test will cause bloat...i personally use test E alot and don't bloat at all unlike some people...btw, you can CUT on ANY steroid if you're DIET and training are right...ask Guardian, he cuts on Dbol lol...

 

[marcu_s]

i bumped this thread.
didnt feel the need to start a new one.

is taking adex ed to minimise bloat worth the costs of gains that i can achive on a 8 week cycle?
lets say i already have a clean diet....just eating chicken,whole grain pasta, proteindrinks, oatmeal and gainers after working out.

how much do adex deacreas gains?

taking about 500mg test p ew.

 

[gstacker]

it would hold me back but everyones different, have you tried .25 weekly or twice a week?

 

[marcu_s]

it would hold me back but everyones different, have you tried .25 weekly or twice a week?

no i havent.
actully i havent started the cycle yet, gonna get the stuff home first.
just dont want to get a bloated face

i will do a superclean bulk diet, only sources i will eat will be clean.
and thinking about buying a natural dieuretic that i will use.

 

[wootoom]

I find a short ester 50mg/eod eg.Test Prop causes barely any bloat...Short esters are the way to go.