Tell me something about NPP ?

[VictorBR]

ok I am considering NPP for my next cycle , I want to avoid drugs that EASILY convert to estrogen ( I will be trying TEST but that is it ) , I have removed the dbol from my cycle because it is a fact that it easily converts to estrogen .

ok , so NPP - WILL IT EASILY CONVERT TO ESTROGEN ?

I mean I know it DOES convert but at what degree ? YES I know it depends on each individual , but USUALLY , does it CONVERT that BAD like DBOL AND D-ROL ?

Victor

 

[JMD]

It is a fast acting Deca, I am currently using it and it converts about the same as regular deca and the good thing is if you experience any sides you can stop an it will be out of you asap instead of weeks like reg. deca.

 

[VictorBR]

thx bro but that doesnt help , I have nevr used deca . I want to know if it converts as bad as d-rol and d-bol ..


Victor

 

[JMD]

No even close, DBol is highly androgenic and therefore can more easily convert to estrogen than NPP or Deca.

 

[Ulter]

It doesn't convert to E, it's a progestin. It will affect progesterone levels like anadrol does.

 

[VictorBR]

what ? It doesnt convert to estrogen ?

So , someone using nandrolone wouldn't need aromasin ?

Ok , so tell me about progesterone bro . What are the sides associated with high levels of progesterone ?

Water retention ? and ?

So , nandrolone raises progesterone levels AND prolactin levels , therefore we need the dostinex AND something to keep progesterone levels under control , did I got it right ?


Victor

 

[VictorBR]

No even close, DBol is highly androgenic and therefore can more easily convert to estrogen than NPP or Deca.

>> bro , the fact that a steroid is highly androgenic does not means that it will easily convert to estrogen , it is the enzyme that will convert or not ...not the androgenic level , for example we have TRENBOLONE , HALOSTESTIN AND MASTERON , substances that ARE even more androgenic than TEST and none of them will convert to estrogen at ANY degree .


Victor

 

[hard life]

Npp for me had virtually no bloat, a low dose mind you, but nothing compared to deca or db's

 

[VictorBR]

thankf for the input bro

Ulter , or anyone else , can you explain the progesterone thing ?


Victor

 

[Ulter]

Right. No need for an AI with NPP. Winny is said to block the progesterone increase from nanadrolone. But other than that there is nothing. You shouldn't be doing NPP without some test though.

 

[VictorBR]

thanks bro .

So it does raise prolactin and progesterone levels .

OK we all know the side effects of hihg prolacting levels , no libido , loss of strenght , gyno .

Now , what are the sides associated with high progesterone levels ?

I mean if deca will not convert to estrogen , than why people get bloated ?
Is the progesterone responsible for the water retention ? what other sides for high progesterone levels ?


Victor

 

[Ulter]

Yes Progestrone can cause libido crash, gyno, IM fat, and water retention. But these sides are rare and most men tolerate high P much better then E. Nanadrolone IS a progestin BTW. So you're adding a Progestin to start with.

 

[VictorBR]

DAMN ULTER !

I didn't know that high progesterone levels could cause all that shit .

Ok so the only way to counter atack it , is using winstroll ?? Is there another drug to counter attack it ?

damn

I think I will pass on the deca ....

Victor

 

[Ulter]

No, there is nothing else. But you should try NPP. If you don't like it you can stop and the sides will be gone in a matter of days. It's not like deca where you're stuck for weeks if you don't like it.

 

[VictorBR]

yeah bro I was actually starting to grow on the idea of trying NPP on my next cycle . But all those progesterone related sides are scaring me away ...

It just looks like a problematic drug to me .. I need dostinex for prolactin , winstroll for progesterone and test for my libido ..... this drug looks kinda problematic to me ...


Victor

 

[Ulter]

Results are worth it. Besides you could end up like most people with no sides other than considerably larger muscle mass causing you to have to shop for new clothes.

 

[VictorBR]

LOL , yeah bro maybe .... but I am not sure if I am willing to take a risk or not

It is the same thing with trenbolone , it is a problemactic drug but I will have to try it ... I can't help but try it ..

The shit is 7 x more androgenic than test and 3 x more anabolic , and with amazing strenght gains and unbelievable fat loss ...so even being a problematic drug I will have to try it ... but DECA just have't enough single qualities to catch my attention like Tren ...

but who knows , I might go for 6 weeks of NPP on my next cycle ...

Victor

 

[hard life]

Just keep the dose low if you are concerned, it is fast acting so you will know soon enough and if no good then it is out of your system quicker then deca, I had no probs, i was taking winny however, but I am usually very sensitive to sides.

 

[VictorBR]

thx for the input bro

Yeah if I decide to try it , I will use some winny with it ...

Victor