Teen Steroid Use

[samoth]

You guys tell that to the pro that under 21 is too young. Sure to do it as safe as you can under 21 is a bad idea. I have proven every skeptic wrong so far and i will continue to do so until i get where i want to be.

The exception never dictates the norm.

The purpose of taking the stance people do is for harm prevention. In the end, like everything in life, each person must make their own individual choices. We just try to help them along, urging them to make the best choices they can by discussing our many opinions and personal views and experiences.

 

[mickeyb69]

The exception never dictates the norm.

The purpose of taking the stance people do is for harm prevention. In the end, like everything in life, each person must make their own individual choices. We just try to help them along, urging them to make the best choices they can by discussing our many opinions and personal views and experiences.

I was thinking the same thing when I read his thread.
If someone plays Russian Roulette and survives, that doesn't make it safe.

 

[chilisauce1]

I wouldn't recommend test to a dude this age. He's already got high test levels. Primo and Winny all the way for this age.



QUOTE=7i667]Not to endorse this, but:
1. High doses (1mg+ ED) of Femera - letrozole - with test might work
2. Everything that doesn't aromatize should be pretty safe

Of course hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - suppression and post-cycle estrogen rebound would still be a problem.[/QUOTE]

 

[BigGuyPHX]

The exception never dictates the norm.

The purpose of taking the stance people do is for harm prevention. In the end, like everything in life, each person must make their own individual choices. We just try to help them along, urging them to make the best choices they can by discussing our many opinions and personal views and experiences.

Good post 100% agree!

The 17 year old handing out advice on this thread burns my ass! WTF?
I know in his undeveloped teen brain he thinks he is one smart dude but some day his choices may haunt him for life.

I agree urging them to make the best choices is all we can do.

BigGuyPHX

 

[10001110101]

This is the problem I see.

I look at it like this, the first drug I ever used was smoking pot when I was 14. I strongly advise against this, but to this day I don't see any health effects. That does not mean it didn't affect the way my brain developed. I also had the good sense to stop smoking after a few months of experimenting until I got to college, after which I only smoked occasionally.

No one would EVER recommend to me that I start smoking pot at 14, and believe you me the "dangers" of pot are WAY WAY overplayed, in fact its much less harmful (if harmful at all) than alcohol or nicotine.

The point is, introducing certain substances to your body while it's still developing can affect that development, whether its the proper development of your brain, your hormonal balance, or your physical growth. None of these things are finished until your early to mid 20's (sometimes later).

Therefore it is NOT REASONABLE to ever advise anyone who is not FULLY developed to interfere with that development.

Often the unintended consequences of these actions may not ever be truly seen as they merely limit potential, so it is hard to say how tall a person ever would have grown or that they may have had a fantastic natural physique and sex drive lasting into their 60's that was stunted by introducing exogenous hormones.

It's hard to believe or accept any of this as a teenager, but it is so so important.

I am not saying this to condemn or look down upon anyone who has made the decision to begin using steroids (or other substances) at a young age. It is a choice you have made, but it needs to be an adult decision, because it can have adult consequences.

wow that's a little preachy. sorry.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

This is the problem I see.

I look at it like this, the first drug I ever used was smoking pot when I was 14. I strongly advise against this, but to this day I don't see any health effects. That does not mean it didn't affect the way my brain developed. I also had the good sense to stop smoking after a few months of experimenting until I got to college, after which I only smoked occasionally.

No one would EVER recommend to me that I start smoking pot at 14, and believe you me the "dangers" of pot are WAY WAY overplayed, in fact its much less harmful (if harmful at all) than alcohol or nicotine.

The point is, introducing certain substances to your body while it's still developing can affect that development, whether its the proper development of your brain, your hormonal balance, or your physical growth. None of these things are finished until your early to mid 20's (sometimes later).

Therefore it is NOT REASONABLE to ever advise anyone who is not FULLY developed to interfere with that development.

Often the unintended consequences of these actions may not ever be truly seen as they merely limit potential, so it is hard to say how tall a person ever would have grown or that they may have had a fantastic natural physique and sex drive lasting into their 60's that was stunted by introducing exogenous hormones.

It's hard to believe or accept any of this as a teenager, but it is so so important.

I am not saying this to condemn or look down upon anyone who has made the decision to begin using steroids (or other substances) at a young age. It is a choice you have made, but it needs to be an adult decision, because it can have adult consequences.

wow that's a little preachy. sorry.

Damn bro you sound like Ghandi!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

 

[wolfman87]

i'm 19 right now and i ran: 30mg/day dbol for 4 weeks along with test cyp 500mg/week for 10 weeks and i gained about 22 pounds of muscle after it was all said and done (i lost 3 pounds after coming off). that was my first cycle and i had zero problems except for a short temper (more pronounced in the beginning think it had to do with the dbol) that i quickly learned to keep under control and i actually think that i can control myself better now in all aspects b/c of it.

another thing that i noticed was that i never really lost my boys and ability. yes they didn't hang as low but they still had some swagger, and i think that is because the younger you are the better your body can adapt and recover.

i had people telling me that it was unsafe, stupid, harmful, etc and that i should wait,learn more, grow more and all that shit, but to be perfectly honest i don't regret it one bit. i think that most people saying all that are either a)jealous they couldn't do it at a younger age, or b)genuinely trying to help you but they didn't have experience doing it at a younger age so they are going off of what their older bodies do. i respect everyone that has made the jump to the darkside for whatever reason and i'm not trying to disrespect anyone by saying that some people don't know dick about doing steroids as a teen, for the simple fact that they never did .

i'm not saying that i'm all knowing about doing steroids as a teen because i've only done one measly cycle but i will give my advice any way. my advice to any teen thinking about doing steroids is that you should wait until you are at least 18 (for mental and physical reasons alike) then learn everything you can about the substances you want to use and you may or may not change your mind about them after you have read about them. if you learned up properly you should be 19 by the time you feel adequately informed about the substances you want to use and how and when to use them.

then ask yourself "am i ready? can i control myself enough to hold back the urge to punch a hole in my wall? am i smart enough to realize what the drugs are doing to me and recognize when they are taking over so that i can keep from fucking my 15 year old sisters hot best friend or beating the shit out of the person yelling at me for fucking up their drink?(i work at star bucks)

the things i have said may upset some people and i have one more for them. i wouldn't take steroids as a teen if you don't have prior experience with any recreational drugs or at the very least alcohol for the simple fact that the more experience you have in altered states the more likely you are to be able to recognize a new one and keep your cool because no matter how much you may disagree or hate it, the fact is you just don't have the same experience with your body and mind that older guys doing steroids for the first time have with themselves.

my reason for saying this is, i'm trying to keep people from getting caught doing steroids by their parents or whoever because they go snooping around because they have noticed a change in personality/character. people who have done other drugs are naturally better at hiding the fact that they do them.

you may argue that the physical changes are enough to warrant this and my reply to this is, tell them you're using a new protein powder, NO2 product, amino acid compound, pro hormone (if they wouldn't be to upset about that, but i'd rather deal with that than them finding out about using steroids) or all of the above.

to make myself clear i'm not advocating teen steroid use. i realize there are actual medical dangers involved with it.

in the end it all comes down to the individual, and they have to make the decision for themselves. now me personally, i could listen to a thousand people tell me not to do or to do something and i wouldn't give a flying fuck what any of them said if i had already made up my mind. that's just how i am, but i also try to get all the facts, risks, benefits, dangers,etc before i make up my mind and that's what i want the potential teen steroid user to do.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=104 this is a great place to start learning about different compounds so you don't have to bother the people here with stupid questions like i did before i found this. it also has sample cycles for beginners, intermediate, and professional steroid users. i don't necessarily agree with everything on this site but it is still a great resource for compound info alone. SO CHECK IT OUT lol.

if anyone want's to comment to me personally about any of the things i have just said good or bad pm me because i'm not coming back to this thread. oh and if you're just going to try and tell me off or "flame" me then i wouldn't waste the time because i will read it but i'm not going to give you the satisfaction of a response. i am interested in other opinions/ideas and questions if anyone has any for me.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

i'm 19 right now and i ran: 30mg/day Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 4 weeks along with test testosterone cypionate 500mg/week for 10 weeks and i gained about 22 pounds of muscle after it was all said and done (i lost 3 pounds after coming off). that was my first cycle and i had zero problems except for a short temper (more pronounced in the beginning think it had to do with the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ) that i quickly learned to keep under control and i actually think that i can control myself better now in all aspects b/c of it.

another thing that i noticed was that i never really lost my boys and ability. yes they didn't hang as low but they still had some swagger, and i think that is because the younger you are the better your body can adapt and recover.

i had people telling me that it was unsafe, stupid, harmful, etc and that i should wait,learn more, grow more and all that shit, but to be perfectly honest i don't regret it one bit. i think that most people saying all that are either a)jealous they couldn't do it at a younger age, or b)genuinely trying to help you but they didn't have experience doing it at a younger age so they are going off of what their older bodies do. i respect everyone that has made the jump to the darkside for whatever reason and i'm not trying to disrespect anyone by saying that some people don't know dick about doing steroids as a teen, for the simple fact that they never did .

i'm not saying that i'm all knowing about doing steroids as a teen because i've only done one measly cycle but i will give my advice any way. my advice to any teen thinking about doing steroids is that you should wait until you are at least 18 (for mental and physical reasons alike) then learn everything you can about the substances you want to use and you may or may not change your mind about them after you have read about them. if you learned up properly you should be 19 by the time you feel adequately informed about the substances you want to use and how and when to use them.

then ask yourself "am i ready? can i control myself enough to hold back the urge to punch a hole in my wall? am i smart enough to realize what the drugs are doing to me and recognize when they are taking over so that i can keep from fucking my 15 year old sisters hot best friend or beating the shit out of the person yelling at me for fucking up their drink?(i work at star bucks)

the things i have said may upset some people and i have one more for them. i wouldn't take steroids as a teen if you don't have prior experience with any recreational drugs or at the very least alcohol for the simple fact that the more experience you have in altered states the more likely you are to be able to recognize a new one and keep your cool because no matter how much you may disagree or hate it, the fact is you just don't have the same experience with your body and mind that older guys doing steroids for the first time have with themselves.

my reason for saying this is, i'm trying to keep people from getting caught doing steroids by their parents or whoever because they go snooping around because they have noticed a change in personality/character. people who have done other drugs are naturally better at hiding the fact that they do them.

you may argue that the physical changes are enough to warrant this and my reply to this is, tell them you're using a new protein powder, NO2 product, amino acid compound, pro hormone (if they wouldn't be to upset about that, but i'd rather deal with that than them finding out about using steroids) or all of the above.

to make myself clear i'm not advocating teen steroid use. i realize there are actual medical dangers involved with it.

in the end it all comes down to the individual, and they have to make the decision for themselves. now me personally, i could listen to a thousand people tell me not to do or to do something and i wouldn't give a flying fuck what any of them said if i had already made up my mind. that's just how i am, but i also try to get all the facts, risks, benefits, dangers,etc before i make up my mind and that's what i want the potential teen steroid user to do.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=104 this is a great place to start learning about different compounds so you don't have to bother the people here with stupid questions like i did before i found this. it also has sample cycles for beginners, intermediate, and professional steroid users. i don't necessarily agree with everything on this site but it is still a great resource for compound info alone. SO CHECK IT OUT lol.

if anyone want's to comment to me personally about any of the things i have just said good or bad pm me because i'm not coming back to this thread. oh and if you're just going to try and tell me off or "flame" me then i wouldn't waste the time because i will read it but i'm not going to give you the satisfaction of a response. i am interested in other opinions/ideas and questions if anyone has any for me.

I'm a teenager bla bla bla... I'm so smart, nothing happened to me, my choice, I know, cant tell me, etc etc etc

I've been around this board for two months and I'm sick of these little bastards shooting their mouths off. There is some GREAT information and PEOPLE on this board that do nothing but try to help. Almost every teenage post uncovers another know-it-all like above.

I have seen first hand what gear can do to (KIDS) young people and when I or anyone else even trys to say any of the dark side of gear with these CHILDREN they get pissed off and try to show how smart they are.

So I will leave you with this...

Look at how KIDS act today!!! YOU are the reason WHY I never fouled the earth with a CHILD!
I am RICH today because I didnt throw MY life into a mental/financial tailspin to spawn a MONSTER that would know more that me at 17 18 or 19 and NOT LISTEN to a single word I had to say.

Thanks for reminding me of the GREATEST thing I ever did for ME!
NOT HAVE KIDS!!!

I think you should do what you want... OK Pumpkin?

BigGuyPHX

P.S. I bang girls your age on the weekend. College girls with hot bodies!
When you get my age the only thing you will be banging is your head on the table because your little limp pee-pee wont work.

 

[mickeyb69]

I can't believe this kid said "the younger your body is the easier it is to adapt and recover" does that mean a 14 year old is better off taking juice than a 19 year old?

 

[BigGuyPHX]

I can't believe this kid said "the younger your body is the easier it is to adapt and recover" does that mean a 14 year old is better off taking juice than a 19 year old?

Oh yea!!! You didnt know that???

LMAO!

My buddy has a 15 year old son out for football this year, I going to run him over a cycle right now because "the younger your body is the easier it is to adapt and recover"


WTF?

BigGuyPHX