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Tbol vs Var for cutting

Which was more effective for your cutting cycle

  • Var

    Votes: 45 57.7%

  • Turinabol

    Votes: 23 29.5%

  • No difference

    Votes: 9 11.5%
  • Total voters
    78
geoboy

geoboy

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cost factor aside, just from an efficacy standpoint, for those who have done both, which did you prefer?

var has a well deserved and studied reputation for cutting abdominal fat almost without even dieting. peeps keep talking about tbol as a cheaper version of var. is turinabol really in the same league for cutting cycles?

also, compare dosages required.
 
i didn't do var at a dose where i liked it. i think i would need 75mg ed minimum for the results that i want. tbol is what i am on right now alone 60mg ed. i'm up 6 lbs in 18 days. no sides at all just increased libido and pumps that are unrivaled. i am a lean guy and i wanted more mass to be honest. i still love this stuff and once i hit my goal this will be my go to oral. i'll tell you that i am very lean natty 6-7% i walk around at year round no matter what, and this tbol is still shredding me, i am bulking with it but my muscles are hard as rocks and i have new veins already. i did winny and loved it except it crippled my joints. well tbol is just like winny except it allows you to put on a few more lbs of lean mass, it kicks in much faster than winny or var, and ive never had increased libido like this except with sust. tbol was very hard to get till bd started making it, so that is why its just getting hyped. imo it is possible to get the exact same results with tbol as var in a shorter period of time, pm me bro if you like
 
geoboy said:
cost factor aside, just from an efficacy standpoint, for those who have done both, which did you prefer?

var has a well deserved and studied reputation for cutting abdominal fat almost without even dieting. peeps keep talking about tbol as a cheaper version of var. is turinabol really in the same league for cutting cycles?

also, compare dosages required.
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I can't wait to try TBOL.

FYI bro, you stole my avatar. Change it NOW. :evil:
 
Tbol is a stronger androgen, and you need stronger androgens while cutting than you do while bulking, so that's my choice. Also it's a decent bit cheaper so you can run more of it :)
 
I have always lost a little fat even while bulking on Tbol. I've also run one cutter with Tbol alone...and it preserved my lean mass very well at 50mg/day on a reduced calorie CKD. Var works well for cutting as well...but only at much higher doses then Tbol. Tbol over Var...every time....
 
anybody run a Lipid Panel after a tbol cycle to see the effect on HDL?

Var kills hdl. If tbol is more lipid-friendly, that would close the deal for me.
 
Actually in low doses var improves lipid panels... I know, I had my dad( an MD) put a friend of ours with liver cancer on anavar at 15mg/day. Not only has he lived 3 months longer than he was given, he's still working 8hrs a day, his 3 liver tumors has not grown at all, and his lipids and liver enzymes have improved slightly. In general though, ALL 17aa will kill your lipids, either take things like policosanol, niacin, diet, EFA's, etc., to try and keep them in check, or just remember than a 4-week change in HDL levels has been proven so far to have NO effect on heart disease.
 
Var and TBol are both great for cutting, but for me Tbol egdes it because it has a stronger anabolic effect. I get no side effects from either.
 
How does tbol compare to dbol anabolic wise? Its seems to give similar pumps and increased vasc. but i like the strength and size (and state of mind) dbol gives me. My new guy has tbol for a little more than the dbol, but if its the same strenght wise and size wise (without bloat), then i may just go that route, or combine the two (tbol seems to be only effective for like 4-5 weeks).
 
bigrand said:
How does tbol compare to dbol anabolic wise? Its seems to give similar pumps and increased vasc. but i like the strength and size (and state of mind) dbol gives me. My new guy has tbol for a little more than the dbol, but if its the same strenght wise and size wise (without bloat), then i may just go that route, or combine the two (tbol seems to be only effective for like 4-5 weeks).
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Its supposed to be less anabolic than dbol. I would say its weaker...but only slightly. A lot of the quick gains from dbol are bloat in my experience. You might gain half a pound more of LEAN mass in 4 weeks on dbol vs tbol IMO.
 
Tux said:
Actually in low doses var improves lipid panels... I know, I had my dad( an MD) put a friend of ours with liver cancer on anavar at 15mg/day. Not only has he lived 3 months longer than he was given, he's still working 8hrs a day, his 3 liver tumors has not grown at all, and his lipids and liver enzymes have improved slightly. In general though, ALL 17aa will kill your lipids, either take things like policosanol, niacin, diet, EFA's, etc., to try and keep them in check, or just remember than a 4-week change in HDL levels has been proven so far to have NO effect on heart disease.
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Hey tux, have you or anyone found any more info on how tbol affects chlesterol levels like how var does?? I keep going back and forth between the two.
 
wayneboard1 said:
Hey tux, have you or anyone found any more info on how tbol affects chlesterol levels like how var does?? I keep going back and forth between the two.
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This is a very important factor for me. I have my yearly flight physical on Septetmber 5th, I would take my Tbol now if I wa sure it wouldnt affect my lipids
 
Anyone THAT concerned with lipid levels on an oral cycle should run a small dose of Nolva alongside the oral. Problem solved.
 
I love Var.. but I would try Tbol in my next cycle..!!
What if You add both to the cycle...50mg Tbol at the beginning and 40mg Var at the end...? or At the end of the cycle 50mg Tbol and 50mg Var.. for the last 4 weeks? to much :fistfullo to the liver??

JessE
 
geoboy bro , you could use both in a 12 week cycle bro like me : , this is my next cycle , just need the money to start it LOL

week 1-12 -HGH - 2 iu ED
week 1-12 - EQ - 400 mg /week
week 1-6- winny 50 mg ED
week 1-6 - turanabol 40 mg ED
week 6-12 - var 40 mg ED
week 6-12 - masteron 150 mg EOD

Looking to to gain some serious LBM here and also going from 12 % to 5 & bodyfat ..


Victor
 
krishna said:
Someone tell me it's action on increasing libido. Also, is it a DHT derivative?
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Its chloronated methyltest. No DHT properties or sides. The chloronation also prevents it from aromatizing. Tbol out-competes natural test at the receptors and thereby causes free test levels to increase. Personally I suspect that this is how it increases libido. I've never seen good data on Tbol though other than the 2 or 3 crappy abstracts that get posted on here every week or two...
 
mendo said:
Its chloronated methyltest. No DHT properties or sides. The chloronation also prevents it from aromatizing. Tbol out-competes natural test at the receptors and thereby causes free test levels to increase. Personally I suspect that this is how it increases libido. I've never seen good data on Tbol though other than the 2 or 3 crappy abstracts that get posted on here every week or two...
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Do your own rising free test levels convert more to dht?
 
krishna said:
Do your own rising free test levels convert more to dht?
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I would assume that they might. Nobody ever experiences any DHT type sides though...so maybe not. Another thing about Tbol is that for most guys it only works for like 3 weeks or so. Its possible that nobody uses it long enough for the increased test to cause DHT problems. Just some thoughts...I really don't know for sure.
 
might be that its only action is to free bound test, and after a few weeks there is no longer a large amount bound to uncouple?

it would be interesting for some who've used tbol to try proviron (or even avena sativa) for 3-4 weeks to compare results (they both free bound test as well)
 
Mavafanculo said:
might be that its only action is to free bound test, and after a few weeks there is no longer a large amount bound to uncouple?

it would be interesting for some who've used tbol to try proviron (or even avena sativa) for 3-4 weeks to compare results (they both free bound test as well)
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I've wondered that too. But I've run Tbol, test and proviron by themselves and the effect from Tbol does seem very different to me.
 
Is it right to compare Tbol to PROVIRON ?


I mean TBOL IS ANABOLIC while proviron IS NOT , just androgenic , so it just hardens you up a bit and increase libido doing NOTHING in terms of muscle GAIN ...

I dont think I am wrong but if I am tell me please ...

Victor
 
VictorBR said:
Is it right to compare Tbol to PROVIRON ?


I mean TBOL IS ANABOLIC while proviron IS NOT , just androgenic , so it just hardens you up a bit and increase libido doing NOTHING in terms of muscle GAIN ...

I dont think I am wrong but if I am tell me please ...

Victor
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That sounds right to me. Anyone who has done both knows how different they are. I doubt the Germans would have won so many medals on Tbol if it was basically just proviron.
 
winny is pretty damn harsh!! so why wasny it ever pulled just like TBOL? im suspecting theres more to tbol than meets the eye. to be truth i would be very scared to touch tbol
 
hammercurls said:
winny is pretty damn harsh!! so why wasny it ever pulled just like TBOL? im suspecting theres more to tbol than meets the eye. to be truth i would be very scared to touch tbol
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It is a little shady how there isn't much info on Tbol around. I do love the results though...
 
mendo said:
It is a little shady how there isn't much info on Tbol around. I do love the results though...
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I Just finished a 9 week 40mg a day cycle of var....I maintained a clean 3000 cal a day diet low in carbs high in protien......maintained body weight 230 lbs and lost a good bit of body fat...mostly in the abbs...I would measure 15% before cycle and now measure 10-11%...it seemed to supress my hunger also...
 
richspc said:
I heard that T-bol effects are only good for about 23-25 days, as opposed to Anavar, much longer, dont know if that is a fact.
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Like most AAS its probably a little different for everyone. I have personally always had my gains slow way down around week 4 regardless of increasing calories and changing my workouts. This seems to be true for most who use Tbol, but a few (like whacked and Retabolil2) have had gains for longer on Tbol. You might be one of the lucky ones.
 
geoboy said:
cost factor aside, just from an efficacy standpoint, for those who have done both, which did you prefer?

var has a well deserved and studied reputation for cutting abdominal fat almost without even dieting. peeps keep talking about tbol as a cheaper version of var. is turinabol really in the same league for cutting cycles?

also, compare dosages required.
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If DIET is in order you could truly use either one effectively.
 
Very old thread but either if your diet were strict. Tbol when it is good is incredible. Balkan tbol from Alin are incredible :)
 
Var is hard on the liver
 
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