tbol: dry gains or not???

[ALIN]

There seems to be so much conflicting info on the web about this. Anyone have first hand experience. I absolutely do not want to bloat..at all.

In my experinece the gains are dry. I have often said TBOL is like DBOL just without the water retention..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Dryer than dbol, but not as dry as winny -- kind of a cross between the two. I'd say 50 mgs of T bol would yield results similar to 25 dbol/25 winny or var.

PCT is PCT, not matter what you use.

 

[Power36]

Is it possible to do Tbol if your still doing a lot of olympic lifting, sprint work, plyos, etc? I hear all the horror stories of winny and have a long history of soft tissue/joint injuries....planning on light light deca dose to my HRT in the fall or winter, but for now wanted to do something just to help my HRT with recovery...Im on Test, GH, thyroid, and cortisol....leaned out and feeling healthy, probably going to wait until summer to do Masteron/Var cycle.....but Im hitting double workout sessions a day now, want to stay lean, and want to help recovery a bit.....30mg-50mg Tbol be good for that for a 4-6 week blast? Not going to predispose me to tendon/muscle injuries or make one "brittle" like winny reputation?

 

[Liquid 2009]

Water within the muscle so its good water. Great stuff for strength.

 

[rappert]

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PCT is PCT, not matter what you use.

really? d'oh

so the same pct as if i were doing 1 gram/wk of test for 12 weeks?

I guess i was hoping that a 4-6 week tbol only cycle wouldn't require as extensive of a pct...oh well

 

[bren565]

really? d'oh

so the same pct as if i were doing 1 gram/wk of test for 12 weeks?

I guess i was hoping that a 4-6 week tbol only cycle wouldn't require as extensive of a pct...oh wekk

I think nelson has a good point besides maybe the length of time taken off or length of pct..

i mean would u want to change u rpct.. why... besides on cycle therapy, pct is pct.. i agree with him, i mean whats different , isnt the goal always the same? lmao

 

[rappert]

you kind of contradict yourself in that post, no offense. Is the pct length the same or no?

Of course the goal is the same..i just wasn't sure if the means to the end would be the same on all cycles. Maybe i'm showing my inner n00b..who knows..lol

 

[The Instrumentalist]

im running some GP tbol 60mgs/day for 5 weeks SOLO in july. can't wait

 

[The Instrumentalist]

Dryer than dbol, but not as dry as winny -- kind of a cross between the two. I'd say 50 mgs of T bol would yield results similar to 25 dbol/25 winny or var.

PCT is PCT, not matter what you use.

could you please elaborate nelson? what i get from this is that if you can run a pct of unleashed/post cycle/sustain alpha for a cycle of epistane, then you could indeed run the same PCT for a cycle of test, or deca, or tren, or equipose? doesn't sound quite right to me....

 

[C.K.]

I don't know how people are holding water on tbol I've lost fat and water on 80 mgs I'm gonna run it 100 mgs ed next cycle