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lifthard2005

lifthard2005

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ok, i know tbol stops working after 3-4 weeks, so with that, what is the highest doses anyone has ran for that time period of tbol?

i know it is lighter than dbol, so i would think doses can be slightly higher....

thanks in advance bros
 
from what i read tbol starts kicking in at the end of week 2 begining of week 3. Many people do 6 week tbol cycles and make great gains weeks 3-6
 
lifthard2005 said:
ok, i know tbol stops working after 3-4 weeks, so with that, what is the highest doses anyone has ran for that time period of tbol?

i know it is lighter than dbol, so i would think doses can be slightly higher....

thanks in advance bros
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Bro, you need to talk to bruce410 about tbol.
 
g35mann said:
from what i read tbol starts kicking in at the end of week 2 begining of week 3. Many people do 6 week tbol cycles and make great gains weeks 3-6
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It actually kicks in first week.

If it kicked in end of second and went away at 4 that would suck ass.

Basically you want to run 50-100mg for first time use

I break mine up throughout the day as it has an 8 hour half life.

You'll start noticing it by weeks end. The pumps are great and strength gains are highly noticeable.

Throw in some Nolva for PCT and you're straight.

Yes it is alright to run it alone. Inject will add to the gains though.

Just my experience.
 
for a first time user run no more than 50mg, u will notice results first week, gains stop at week 4 for most people but if not go for 6
 
I would not say no more than. My brother needed to go with 80 first time to really get the gains I was getting at 50.

We are all different.
 
d_o_c_ said:
It actually kicks in first week.

If it kicked in end of second and went away at 4 that would suck ass.

Basically you want to run 50-100mg for first time use

I break mine up throughout the day as it has an 8 hour half life.

You'll start noticing it by weeks end. The pumps are great and strength gains are highly noticeable.

Throw in some Nolva for PCT and you're straight.

Yes it is alright to run it alone. Inject will add to the gains though.

Just my experience.
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I actually got that information from t-nation...figures
So if runnning tbol alone the ideal cycle would be 4-5 weeks?
 
I ran it for the first time at 60mg/day and bumped up to 80mg/d the third week. I had good gains and great pumps..I took it the first three weeks and plan on taking it again the last three weeks of my cycle. I miss the pumps!!!
 
i'm def no god, just a guy who knows about juice, yea ran it at 50mg ed and bumped to 60mg on my first run. did the same thing this time. went all the way up to 70mg ed. unreal pumps. but cholesterol and liver is an issue always be smart. 6 weeks is a waste of tbol. for me at least it works 25 days tops.
 
also have you run dbol before. if so this could be a factor. if youve run say 40mg ed before of dbol you are gonna want to run 60mg ed or more of tbol for sure. rest assured though its not as toxic as dbol but it taxes the bod for sure, and i love the stuff. i believe the half life to be 16.5 hours but am not 100% on that ever cause info on tbol is very hard to find. i go by my experience and fonixer, fergie, dieselgunz, and tux's experiences as well
 
Actually the half life has been studied at 6.8 - 7.2 hours. So they round it to 8 hours. That 16 is wrong.
 
ok doc i believe ya. i guess splitting the doses was probably a good idea then, i only did it for the liver but didn't think it was a factor with the longer half life
 
I have to agree with you Bruce, you have to be smart and you have to listen to your body..When I bumped up to 80mg/d the third week my liver was taking a beating I could really feel it....and 25 days is about when it was not effective anymore...But that's me everyone is different!!
 
d_o_c_ said:
Nope 8 hour.
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actually no, its half life is 16 hours (I'll find the study for ya)

40mg is a good starter dose, add more if you need to...... It usually kicks in in about 3-4 days
 
my halo monkey friend, i thought 16 you guys can fight it out though. yea day 5 i'm feeling pumps that make my skin come off, i have to duct tape it back on
 
yea but that pic was pretty recent bro. i'm 6 3 at like 181 there i think 6-7%. i'm gonna wait a little longer to post, i need someone to take the pic for me so i can flex. my girl will make fun of me but i'll have her do it.
 
bruce410 said:
yea but that pic was pretty recent bro. i'm 6 3 at like 181 there i think 6-7%. i'm gonna wait a little longer to post, i need someone to take the pic for me so i can flex. my girl will make fun of me but i'll have her do it.
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haha gfs... mine would do the same thing...
 
badslinky, i took the pic in my avi last wed, so you be the judge. i'm usually 181-185, i'm like 180 there cause i was starting yes and aifm and lost a lot of water weight i didn't think i had. i am not really flexing just trying to hold the cam steady.
 
what do you mean by striation? yea i thought 6-8% hard to say, cause i test 3% on calipers and we all know that ain't possible
 
striations <maybe sp> is when you see lines or ripples going through your muscles from lack of body fat. I get em really bad when I flex my sholuders.
 
hey bruce, just curious, what do you bench? im just curious cuase im 6 foot , 180 and just got tested at 8.3%bf, you deff look like your around 7% give or take .5

i also get striations? in my shoulders when flexing...i dont look at it as a bad thing though, looks kinda cool
 
Oral-Turinabol

(4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone)
[4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one]
Molecular Weight:334.8854
Formula:C20H27O2Cl
Manufacturer: Underground Labs only
Effective Dose (Men): 10-40mgs/day
Effective Dose (Women): 5-15mgs/day
Active life: 16 hours
Detection Time: 6 weeks
 
lifthard2005 said:
Oral-Turinabol

(4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone)
[4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one]
Molecular Weight:334.8854
Formula:C20H27O2Cl
Manufacturer: Underground Labs only
Effective Dose (Men): 10-40mgs/day
Effective Dose (Women): 5-15mgs/day
Active life: 16 hours
Detection Time: 6 weeks
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active life does not = half life
if half life is 8 hours then 75% is out of system at 16 hours, so active life is 16+ hours
 
badslinky said:
striations <maybe sp> is when you see lines or ripples going through your muscles from lack of body fat. I get em really bad when I flex my sholuders.
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oh hell yea, in my profile pic you can see them a bit more, but its too big to put in the avi. yea i'll get a good close up with me flexing that bf in my avi looks higher than it is. i'll get all the veins and striations in there. i thought you meant color striations.
 
well i'm not gonna lie like i think a lot of peeps on here do, my arm span is 6 8 so bench is my weakness bro. i was putting up 235 3 times and thats the most ive ever done, i probably couldve done 250 once. i have back problems and i have a lot of bulging discs. the doctor doesn't know how i don't feel them, i guess i like pain. i was all gung ho about putting more and more on the bench but it was taxing my back. i trained with a guy who is the bears strength and conditioning coach who taught me to use lighter weights and i do push ups in between sets and flys. i had to except my frame is not the type to do huge amounts of presses, now pulling is a different story. i haven't tried to max on bench in a while i bet it has gone down. i'm starting all chest workouts with incline now and i'm doing 205 5x5 with a spotter. keep at it its a bitch with long arms but they look great once they are big enough for their length, mine are not :worried:
g35mann said:
hey bruce, just curious, what do you bench? im just curious cuase im 6 foot , 180 and just got tested at 8.3%bf, you deff look like your around 7% give or take .5

i also get striations? in my shoulders when flexing...i dont look at it as a bad thing though, looks kinda cool
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well its medically a sex drug for men with ed as well as young boys with low test levels. it works unreal for libido and frees up to 60% of free test i believe. also a very strong AI, makes the muscles if already lean look very hard and ripped. it is commonly taken pre contest for cutting, i use it in place of test with my eq. i never knew a thing about it till i got deca dick, tried it all and only proviron worked. i had quit aas at that point cause i like sex better. when i got proviron i knew i could run some eq or something mild and be good. its like advil for your dick, immediate satisfaction, for me at least
 
Proviron, an anabolic steroid, is particularly interesting. I suspect that it not only acts as an antiaromatase but in an unknown DHT-like anti-estrogenic manner. This might involve estrogen receptor downregulation for example. In any case, aromatase inhibition and/or Clomid don’t seem to give the same effect on appearance and muscle hardness as when Proviron is included.

This drug has good binding to the androgen receptor, but in muscle tissue most of it never reaches the androgen receptor because it is enzymatically converted to the diol. Thus, it is not an effective anabolic. It is somewhat effective as an anti-gyno agent, however, and appears to reduce estrogenic bloating if that problem exists.

Proviron reduces either levels of estrogen or the effect of estrogen. Thus, it is useful for avoiding gynecomastia, although it probably should not be relied upon as the sole drug for that. It is not hepatotoxic. It has the usual side effects of anabolic/androgenic steroids, with the added effect that it is particularly prone to cause erections.

they kind of make it sound shitty in this profile
 
well im dying 2 try this tbol ur taking about so i plan on running this cycle

1-4 Tbol 60mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
10-15 anavar 50mg
10-15 Tbol 60mg
hopefully with this i can stack on 20 pounds and keep it
 
all it is saying is that it is a steroid but doesn't promote muscle growth. effects prone to erections, hardness, AI that clomid and nolva can't do, i don't see anything shitty
 
i c, what u think of the cycle i posted? i might throw in 1 amp of ICN's a week, still deciding, im goin with what u said high EQ with a low touch of test with some tbol so hopefully i'll keep gains
 
bruce410 said:
well i'm not gonna lie like i think a lot of peeps on here do, my arm span is 6 8 so bench is my weakness bro. i was putting up 235 3 times and thats the most ive ever done, i probably couldve done 250 once. i have back problems and i have a lot of bulging discs. the doctor doesn't know how i don't feel them, i guess i like pain. i was all gung ho about putting more and more on the bench but it was taxing my back. i trained with a guy who is the bears strength and conditioning coach who taught me to use lighter weights and i do push ups in between sets and flys. i had to except my frame is not the type to do huge amounts of presses, now pulling is a different story. i haven't tried to max on bench in a while i bet it has gone down. i'm starting all chest workouts with incline now and i'm doing 205 5x5 with a spotter. keep at it its a bitch with long arms but they look great once they are big enough for their length, mine are not :worried:
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Wow im in the same boat as you. i have 6 bulging disc 4 in lower back 2 in mid-upper back. I dont recomend deadlifts to people 6foot+ unless your a genetic monster. My arms are long as hell so my bench is weak 215*3.
I also, recently, quit doing flat bench completely becuase even 215 aggrevated my back and going higher could only make it worse. im very impressed with the slight difference in you flat vrs incline benching,205 at your height, and frame is deff nothing to be ashamed of. I cant even come close to that. Long arms are a bitch and to get decent forearms is no easy task, but i agree that once the person fills em in they look great- my forearms suck.
 
instant.muscle said:
well im dying 2 try this tbol ur taking about so i plan on running this cycle

1-4 Tbol 60mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
10-15 anavar 50mg
10-15 Tbol 60mg
hopefully with this i can stack on 20 pounds and keep it
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I took 60-80mg/d the first 3 wks of my cycle and that was taxing on the liver
Taking both orals(tbol and anavar)for the last 5 weeks is going to be tough..
If you can handle it your a bigger man than I am
 
its 16 hours.

1: Pharmazie. 1991 Sep;46(9):650-4. Related Articles, Links


[The pharmacokinetics of Oral-Turinabol in humans]

[Article in German]

Schumann W.

Institut fur Mikrobiologie und experimentelle Therapie (ZIMET), Jena.

Disposition and excretion of the anabolic steroid Oral-Turinabol (1;4-chloro-17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-17 beta-hydroxy-3-one) were investigated in male volunteers. Following single p.o. and i.v. administration of the tritium-labelled compound the plasma concentration courses of total radioactivity (1 and 1-metabolites) and of the unchanged parent drug as well as the urinary excretion were estimated. From these data model independent pharmacokinetic parameters based on statistical moments were calculated. 1 is almost completely absorbed after p.o. administration of 10 mg per volunteer. Peak concentrations of total radioactivity and of 1 in plasma were reached about 3 h p.a. Irregularities observed in the plasma level profile following both p.o. and i.v. administration of 1 are due to a marked enterohepatic circulation. Orally given 1 is subject to a first-pass effect, resulting in a diminished systematic availability. The AUC-ratio of the unchanged drug and the total radioactivity of 1 : 13 shows the predominance of metabolites in plasma. After i.v. administration the disposition of unchanged 1 was found biphasically with a terminal half-life of 16 h. 1 and its metabolites are preferentially excreted via the kidneys. The urinary total radioactivity represented about 60% of the dose following both administrations. Due to its affinity to SHBG 1 is able to compete for the protein binding of testosterone, resulting in an increased plasma level of non protein-bound testosterone.

PMID: 1798729 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
 
g35mann said:
Wow im in the same boat as you. i have 6 bulging disc 4 in lower back 2 in mid-upper back. I dont recomend deadlifts to people 6foot+ unless your a genetic monster. My arms are long as hell so my bench is weak 215*3.
I also, recently, quit doing flat bench completely becuase even 215 aggrevated my back and going higher could only make it worse. im very impressed with the slight difference in you flat vrs incline benching,205 at your height, and frame is deff nothing to be ashamed of. I cant even come close to that. Long arms are a bitch and to get decent forearms is no easy task, but i agree that once the person fills em in they look great- my forearms suck.
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thanks bro. yea its been a long hard road. i seriously had trouble with 10lb plates on each side as a beginer. i hated it was so embarassed. took years to get up to 135 on flat. slowly the 2.5 lb plates would come on and after 6 yrs of lifting i was able to do 185. i weighed only 145 at that point. i started doing aas and its a long story i wasted a lot and didn't know shit, but i was on winny and i did get stronger though i saw no other results. was at 205 flat and during my tbol cycle i was able get it up 30 lbs. thats why i like tbol so much, i never saw anything like that with any other steroid, i mean i had russian dbols, winny, deca and test, nothing did that for me. and i know some guys love dbols or win, its just what works best for ya.
 
i keep reading doing orals only youll lose the strength and the size in no time. Is that the case with tbol(i know you wont keep 100%)? i was stuck on a var/ primo cycle and you recomended tbol to me, at first i was skeptical but the more i read the more i want tbol, obv ide save $4-500 also.
 
bruce410 said:
well i'm not gonna lie like i think a lot of peeps on here do, my arm span is 6 8 so bench is my weakness bro. i was putting up 235 3 times and thats the most ive ever done, i probably couldve done 250 once. i have back problems and i have a lot of bulging discs. the doctor doesn't know how i don't feel them, i guess i like pain. i was all gung ho about putting more and more on the bench but it was taxing my back. i trained with a guy who is the bears strength and conditioning coach who taught me to use lighter weights and i do push ups in between sets and flys. i had to except my frame is not the type to do huge amounts of presses, now pulling is a different story. i haven't tried to max on bench in a while i bet it has gone down. i'm starting all chest workouts with incline now and i'm doing 205 5x5 with a spotter. keep at it its a bitch with long arms but they look great once they are big enough for their length, mine are not :worried:
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I dont even do bench press at all anymore... just incline DB and decline DB
 
well i can't tell you if you'll keep everything. don't know if your past your genetic limit. i kept all of my gains from tbol.
 
g35mann said:
i keep reading doing orals only youll lose the strength and the size in no time. Is that the case with tbol(i know you wont keep 100%)? i was stuck on a var/ primo cycle and you recomended tbol to me, at first i was skeptical but the more i read the more i want tbol, obv ide save $4-500 also.
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I like tBol better than var now that I have tried it. But it seems like I shed a bunch of hair on it. Var didnt seem to do much to my hair.
 
true dat mendo and fergie really taught me everything i know. mendo is money on every aspect of it.
 
KD1 said:
I like tBol better than var now that I have tried it. But it seems like I shed a bunch of hair on it. Var didnt seem to do much to my hair.
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ahh shit, im very prone to MPB. Im assuming propecia should eleminate that problem?
 
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