tbol/anavar

[Zyglamail]

Zyglamail You keep referring to me as scrawny. I'd love to see how you're built man. 9,000 posts on an internet discussion board. I bet you could use a little time in the gym. Or at least in the real world.

For starters, im 5'10 and was 180lbs when I graduated high school and about 10%bf and I WAS SCRAWNY!. In 2-3 years I went to 220lbs and about 13%bf and thats where I stayed while working a full time job, spending about 1.5 hours in the gym and practicing martial arts for 2-3 hours 5 days a week.

Now, im nearly 20 years older than you, im no longer looking to be big, simply strong and well rounded with decent endurance. Im holding steady at about 15% at 230lbs, I can currently row a 2k on an erg rower in under 7 minutes, not going to set any records but not bad either, especially for an old fart. Im not letting BF or weight be my guide but performance in strength and endurance. I train with those goals in mind and let my body adjust accordingly.

Ive spent plenty of time in the real world, enough to add serious mass and adjust my body comp in various ways for various goals. Ive trained clean and have used AAS (after I was in my 30 mind you) and have been as large as 265lbs and about 10%bf.

What I dont need is scrawny snot nosed kids like yourself preaching to me that you need AAS to gain a little strength and mass because you clearly dont. I gave you advice, take it or leave it I dont really care but you have made it abundantly clear your a waste of my time.

 

[jiggagold]

What Mac school u play at

 

[Zyglamail]

What Mac school u play at

Dont any more, was a long time ago. We studied under Sifu Park Bok Nam.

 

[Lancer55]

Zyglamail You keep referring to me as scrawny. I'd love to see how you're built man. 9,000 posts on an internet discussion board. I bet you could use a little time in the gym. Or at least in the real world.

I lol@you 9000 posts in 10 years hahah thats barely anything compared to alot of people around here. He got that many over a 10 year period of time helping people like you who want it their way, you have been given advice by many people your not taking it, hell you were even given a pct by Zyg, maybe try another board or take the cycle with the pct he gave you then when you lose it all because you didn't want to listen maybe you'll come back with an open mind.

 

[Lancer55]

studlife22 I didn't come here for training advice. There is alot better places for me to go for that. And I've done that plenty. And you call me arrogant? Come on man, your name on here is studlife lol. I bet you're a real stud. LOL. And how would you know if what I'm doing is cutting it. Nobody starts out in the UFC.It's a long road to get anywhere near that level. And I was a division 1 college athlete pal. MAC football. And because someone is 170 you guys assume they can get to 200 naturally? It's called genetics. You might as well justy say a guy 270 can get to 300 naturally then. Nobody can use steroids. And all 170lb guys aren't scrawny, like I said GSP, Bernard Hopkins. Bad Motherfuckers and theirs plenty of guys around 170-180 with way better physiques than you powerlifters with your sloppy 275lbs throwin up as much weight as you can pile on, yet you're too slow and striif to whip my grandmother. Nobody wants to be like that. Well, besides a few of you guys. Thanks for your advice, but unless it involves steroids, keep it to yourself. I didn't come on a steroid site to get training and nutrition advice from bodybuilders. Bodybuilding just isn't my thing. You guys grow muscle for what? It's not the kind you can use anywhere but the weight room.

Bodybuilders know more about nutrition and training than most people and this is not only a steroid site lol if you looked there are many other forum areas on this site just as active and more active. Muscle is muscle you can use it anywhere your logic makes no sense. You want to add 10-15lbs of muscle to your body, guess what thats is building your body in other words Bodybuilding. You goin off on everyone who posts who doesn't give you the answer you want isn't going to help you. At 170lbs your height what position did you play? Left Bench? Not many people here weigh 275 most are not that heavy. Obviously if what you were doing was cutting it you wouldn't be here.

 

[Zyglamail]

Not many people here weigh 275 most are not that heavy. Obviously if what you were doing was cutting it you wouldn't be here.

Obviously he has limited experience with anything outside his chosen sport. Powerlifting and weightlifting both have weight classes. There are plenty of insanely powerful 165lb dudes and there are plenty of very fast 275lb dudes. Look at any elite weightlifter doing a snatch it takes a lot of explosive power and speed to toss 450lbs in the air and then pull themselves under the bar to receive it.

jfish2134 clearly has a very narrow perspective of the world, training, powerlifting, weightlifting and AAS and even what women want. He cant even see that I am trying to help him but clearly is too closed minded to see he is not the do all, be all of training and is not willing to admit he cant improve without AAS. After dealing with him in this thread I am finally going to agree with him, he CAN NOT get any farther without the help of AAS because his ego is in the way.

 

[jfish2134]

Zyglamail If that's all you wanted out of athletics in your life, hanging around the weight room, puttin on some size, than that's cool. That's all you did and you can be happy with that. But that wouldn't satisfy me, I've done way more than that already and I'm nowhere near being done. And I'd appreciate it if you were trying to help, but you have done nothing but try to belittle me. So keep hangin around chat rooms bragging about being a short stumpy weightlifter. That's nothing impressive.

lancer 55 I don't see much advice. More like self righteous guys trying to lecture me for asking information about steroids on a steroid site. And yeah man this discussion board is called anabolic steroids. So this section of the site is about steroids. If you don't wanna talk steroids than why are you even reading this board. Don't you have a life? And I played division one college football. In case you don't know that's some serious shit and they take nutrition and training very serious, so I bet I know a little more than a guy like you that sits around making 1000 post on an internet discussion board. So get back to playing world of warcraft or whatever you do and keep your opinions to yourself unless they're about steroids.

This site offered good information in the past. What happened here? The only guys I can get to respond are all self righteous anti steroid guys preaching to a screen name about not using steroids. Can't you guys make better use of your time???

 

[Zyglamail]

And I'd appreciate it if you were trying to help, but you have done nothing but try to belittle me.

I AM trying to help but because I am not telling you what you want to hear you take it otherwise. If you walked up to any serious coach like say Poliquin, Kilgore, Reppetoe etc etc etc at 6' 170lbs and told them you want strength with only a little size and didnt want to lose endurance and it could only be done by taking AAS and you wont alter diet or training because it will affect your current status they would laugh your ass right out of their gym.

Have you even read whats been posted in this thread? How many views does it have and how many people actually took the time to type anything? Now ponder for a moment why that is. The reason is because your unreachable!

Ive given you PCT, Ive told why no one can recommend a cycle and commented on a few orals you could try, Ive given you what you have asked for and still your not satisfied because its not what you want to hear.

This site offered good information in the past. What happened here? The only guys I can get to respond are all self righteous anti steroid guys preaching to a screen name about not using steroids. Can't you guys make better use of your time???

The reason no one else is chiming in is because of your attitude. No one can offer you, someone who apparently already knows everything, any advice that will satisfy you so why bother?

P.S. For the record im not anti steroid at all, done my fare share of cycles. Im against people using them for all the wrong reasons when they arent needed to attain the goals stated. I dont want you to suffer the post cycle crash and the potential other sides for gains that wont last because you refuse to change anything in your life. The same things that would bring you to your goals without the help of AAS.

 

[jfish2134]

Zyglamail I've tried to tell you that I'm pretty confident that my diet is a good one for reaching my goals(diet can only take you so far), ill pm you with it if you want and maybe you can give me some advice. And I train hard and lift as often as possible. Lifting can't be my primary concern right now. There comes a time when steroids can be a big help. And I have no qualms about taking them, in fact I have in the past and I've mentioned that. So what's the big deal about doing a pretty mild cycle right now? Of course I'll lose some of my gains , but everyone does. What would qualify a guy in your opinion to take steroids? Don't look at weight because someones weight don't mean shit. Genetics affect that and some guys can only get so big naturally. I can give you some examples of guys smaller than me who used steroids and they were very beneficial to these guys. I didn't want to get into all this, I just wanted advice on my cycle. And unless I missed it, I really don't see any besides your PCT advice.

 

[Lancer55]

Zyglamail If that's all you wanted out of athletics in your life, hanging around the weight room, puttin on some size, than that's cool. That's all you did and you can be happy with that. But that wouldn't satisfy me, I've done way more than that already and I'm nowhere near being done. And I'd appreciate it if you were trying to help, but you have done nothing but try to belittle me. So keep hangin around chat rooms bragging about being a short stumpy weightlifter. That's nothing impressive.

lancer 55 I don't see much advice. More like self righteous guys trying to lecture me for asking information about steroids on a steroid site. And yeah man this discussion board is called anabolic steroids. So this section of the site is about steroids. If you don't wanna talk steroids than why are you even reading this board. Don't you have a life? And I played division one college football. In case you don't know that's some serious shit and they take nutrition and training very serious, so I bet I know a little more than a guy like you that sits around making 1000 post on an internet discussion board. So get back to playing world of warcraft or whatever you do and keep your opinions to yourself unless they're about steroids.

This site offered good information in the past. What happened here? The only guys I can get to respond are all self righteous anti steroid guys preaching to a screen name about not using steroids. Can't you guys make better use of your time???

LOL dude your calling me little? your lighter than me and half a foot taller your a stick no way a twirp like you played college ball. You do have the build of a world of warcraft player tho I will give you that. I will keep stating facts about steroids so quit crying, take the advice given or gtfo tbh. Ya this area is for advice on steroids in your opinion you didn't get the advice, in everyone elses you got it, the site still offers good advice we just get lazy people like you on here. Go make better use of your time somwhere else, just cause you don't have a life and want to keep arguing doesn't mean anyone else does. You act like bodybuilders don't take nutrition and training seriously that only people who do sports do lol. Again with the post count, your sad. We are talking about steroids your just not listening, this forum area you said steroid site before get it right. Again your opinion on how we use our time, people give advice but because its not what you want to hear we are wasting our time.