Tapering down?

[bottleneckblooz]

I'm getting towards the end of my cycle now so I'm starting to think about what would be the best way of finishing it off to bounce back better. Is there any evidence or does anybody have experience with tapering doses down towards the end of a cycle, and does it improve the ability of the body to bounce back to normal after pct?

 

[Burpees]

what compounds are you on? If you're running Cyp/Enan/Sus you in essence taper off as the half life of the compounds kick in.. Also what doses?

We say two weeks after last E shot.. But really if you test your blood work 4-6 weeks after you will probably still be elevated..

I would just take the recommended time off for your compounds half life and start pct..the T will fade, and as long as there is no E you should be on your way to a healthy recovery.

 

[bottleneckblooz]

what compounds are you on? If you're running Cyp/Enan/Sus you in essence taper off as the half life of the compounds kick in.. Also what doses?

We say two weeks after last E shot.. But really if you test your blood work 4-6 weeks after you will probably still be elevated..

I would just take the recommended time off for your compounds half life and start pct..the T will fade, and as long as there is no E you should be on your way to a healthy recovery.

I'm on Test E @ 500mg/wk and EQ @ 450mg/wk. I was also on tren E @ 200mg/week, but I finished that after week 10 of a 14 week cycle. Got about 3 weeks left.

 

[needtogetaas]

I'm on Test E @ 500mg/wk and EQ @ 450mg/wk. I was also on tren E @ 200mg/week, but I finished that after week 10 of a 14 week cycle. Got about 3 weeks left.

I would start taking hcg now till about a week or two past your cycle. Then use some sustain alpha for pct. You could also use clomid or other products you like as well but do not really have to.. I like the test recovery stack from pp. Also postcycle and unleashed from pf.

Ether way its up to you. Just remember plain it out the best you can. Feel good about it and know the money you spend on it is well worth it.

Pm me any time for help bro.

 

[Burpees]

I wouldn't taper because in essence you're just extending your cycle and staying on. 250mg of Test will keep you shut down. If you want to add a few weeks, for the sake of the EQ then so be it.

Do you have your pct in check?

 

[needtogetaas]

tapering is pointless btw

 

[the_alcatraz]

Don't taper down, just plan your PCT well....

I'd start taking HCG soon as needto said and would hit clomid about 10days after last test shot! (you could add dermacrine or sustain alpha to clomid and it would be a good combo)

 

[bottleneckblooz]

I wouldn't taper because in essence you're just extending your cycle and staying on. 250mg of Test will keep you shut down. If you want to add a few weeks, for the sake of the EQ then so be it.

Do you have your pct in check?

I have Arimidex and HCG on hand. Also have nolvadex, I haven't decided on whether to use the nolva or Adex with the HCG yet though.

 

[needtogetaas]

Don't taper down, just plan your PCT well....

I'd start taking HCG soon as needto said and would hit clomid about 10days after last test shot! (you could add dermacrine or sustain alpha to clomid and it would be a good combo)

dermacrine pretty strong and not so good for pct. sustain alpha is perfect and has ai's in it as well.

 

[the_alcatraz]

dermacrine pretty strong and not so good for pct. sustain alpha is perfect and has ai's in it as well.

yes I've heard dermacrine boosts test levels. I was only suggesting it because it helps bring down estrogen levels.

Is sustain alpha alone good for PCT? (along with HCG offcourse)

Can it replace the usuage of clomid in PCT?

 

[bottleneckblooz]

I would start taking hcg now till about a week or two past your cycle. Then use some sustain alpha for pct. You could also use clomid or other products you like as well but do not really have to.. I like the test recovery stack from pp. Also postcycle and unleashed from pf.

Ether way its up to you. Just remember plain it out the best you can. Feel good about it and know the money you spend on it is well worth it.

Pm me any time for help bro.

Not sure I could get those products in Canada.

 

[Burpees]

I have Arimidex and HCG on hand. Also have nolvadex, I haven't decided on whether to use the nolva or Adex with the HCG yet though.

I use arimidex on cycle, up to the start of PCT. Looks like you don't need it, I just use it for Test bloat really, 0.5ml once a week or 5 days.

HCG, you should be running that now, up to a couple of weeks after your last shot of Test/EQ. You can do that a few ways, 500iu a week, 250iu 2x's a week, 1000iu EOD, 500iu ED for 10 days, etc.. Just start using it...how much do you have?

Nolva, I like the classic Nolva taper.. But a lot of folks do things differently here, and research does show that 20mg ED is just as effective as 40mg for the average sized male coming off of a cycle..

40/30/20/20/10/10.. keep at 10mg ED for as long as you feel you need it..

 

[bottleneckblooz]

HCG, you should be running that now, up to a couple of weeks after your last shot of Test/EQ. You can do that a few ways, 500iu a week, 250iu 2x's a week, 1000iu EOD, 500iu ED for 10 days, etc.. Just start using it...how much do you have?

I only have 5000iu, so I don't think I'd have enough to do as your describing. Besides, I prefer taking HCG after a cycle rather than during. That's what I did last time and it worked great. But it was a shorter cycle with less compounds.

 

[needtogetaas]

Not sure I could get those products in Canada.

yes you can get sustain alpha in there bro. You can get them all. Just can not get deramcrine reg because of the dhea.

 

[bottleneckblooz]

yes you can get sustain alpha in there bro. You can get them all. Just can not get deramcrine reg because of the dhea.

Hmmm... heard a lot of positive things about it, maybe I'll look into it then.

 

[needtogetaas]

Hmmm... heard a lot of positive things about it, maybe I'll look into it then.

Well if you do get it. Send me a pm I will give you a discount.

 

[the elite addict]

I would start taking hcg now till about a week or two past your cycle. Then use some sustain alpha for pct. You could also use clomid or other products you like as well but do not really have to.. I like the test recovery stack from pp. Also postcycle and unleashed from pf.

Ether way its up to you. Just remember plain it out the best you can. Feel good about it and know the money you spend on it is well worth it.

Pm me any time for help bro.

+1, although I would strongly recommend using clomid. HCG will "jumpstart" the recovery process. The sponsers sups ie recovery stack, derma will def help you avoid a post cycle crash. best of luck

 

[Burpees]

I only have 5000iu, so I don't think I'd have enough to do as your describing. Besides, I prefer taking HCG after a cycle rather than during. That's what I did last time and it worked great. But it was a shorter cycle with less compounds.

If you go with the 500iu ED for 10 days you have enough, do that two weeks after your last Test/EQ shot.. doesn't have to be 14 days, 10-20 days is fine. I would take some Arimidex before you start the HCG and during it's use..but during your days on HCG taper off the arimidex.. Meaning if you use 0.5ml EOD after you last shot, taper down to 0.5ml every 5 days as you close up with your hcg shots.. This way you have minimal amount E, full response from your HPTA starting to happen, and you're about to run your Nolva which will kick you back into gear.. So no arimidex after the HCG, just Nolva..

You may get a different opinion and it will probably be just as effective..