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Taking inject.Winstrol orally....does it work?
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jumpmaster82
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yes you can drink it and it will be the same as taking the tablets. However, it is not as affective as injecting it. When you take winny orally rather you drink the depot or take the tab, it passes through the liver twice. So your body only gets to use a certain amount that is left after these two liver passes( I can't think of the exact number percentage).
When you inject it it only passes through the liver once, therefore your body uses more of the chemical you want. So injecting it gives better results and is less harmful on the liver. The only reason people want to drink it is because they dont want do inject ED. But IMO if your gona spend the money you might as well man up and pin it so you get the best results.
When you inject it it only passes through the liver once, therefore your body uses more of the chemical you want. So injecting it gives better results and is less harmful on the liver. The only reason people want to drink it is because they dont want do inject ED. But IMO if your gona spend the money you might as well man up and pin it so you get the best results.
jiujitsugirl
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jumpmaster82 said:
So would you run a higher chance of sides by it cycling through your liver twice vs injection?? Or does it still not matter? The thought just crossed my mind....
jiujitsugirl
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timtim said:
Shit.... mine was like 207 last time I checked..... seesssshhhh!
I was actually talking about all the other sides though. My friend and I are about to start and she doesn't want to inject. Didn't know if taking it orally would lessen or worsen sides.
jiujitsugirl said:
201 is your total cholesterol. hdl is the heart healthy cholesterol. it drops through the floor on winstrol which is extremely dangerous.
liver impact either way is not serious unless you abuse it.
have you researched winstrol? you realize it could cause masculinzing effects?
jiujitsugirl
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timtim said:
No, I meant my LDL was 207. I have high cholesterol. Runs in my family. Haven't had it checked since I started working out 2 years ago though, so i'm asuming it's lower, but who knows.
Yes, I have researched it over and over again. I'm still not really sure....
my best friend is gung ho.... I would rather do Anavar, as this will be my first cycle, but i just cant get it. Only thing i'm scared about is the sides....
jiujitsugirl
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timtim said:
I know! Decisions, decisions! I'm just sick of not getting where I want to be so I figured it was worth a shot. I personally know several girls who said it worked great for them..... but then I read the things on here and it just scares me.... but, hey, sometimes the truth is scary! I'm just hoping to really reduce a good bit of BF and the girls i know that have done it said it worked EXCELLENT for that, with a proper diet of course. But then I read on here that it has no effect on that.... so i'm kinda stuck in between....
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ALIN
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guil81 said:
you can take it orally...however when compared INJECT winstrol is very expensive compared to tabs...would be one expensive daily drink
jiujitsugirl said:
"Finally, and (partially) anecdotally, we also see a greater incidence of clitoral enlargement and acne when the oral version of Winstrol is used by women instead of the injectable. The reasons for this are obvious- When we increase free testosterone by lowering SHBG, we increase the amount of testosterone which is able to be 5a-reduced to DHT. DHT is the primary culprit for steroid induced acne, and is also the hormone responsible for external genital enlargement. Clearly, this is why we see the increased level of clitoral hypertrophy as well as acne when oral Winstrol is used by women."
jiujitsugirl
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timtim said:
See, that's what I hear, but then I see people who have amazing results! So what exactly "does" it do? Is it maybe that it makes the muscles more toned and hard to give the appearance of less BF??? I just dont understand from what i've seen. They did everything they always did before, but with the Winstrol their muscles were WAY more toned and they lost more weight than without it. That is what totally confuses me....
"Most orally administered drugs undergo "first-pass metabolism," which is a portion of the active drug that the liver metabolizes before entering the bloodstream and is essentially thrown away. Assuming MrPlunkey's animal data is correct, it is not too much of a stretch to extrapolate a bioavailability (% of orally administered drug not metabolized by liver upon first pass) of ~38mg/50mg or 76%. Therefore, if you ingested 100mg of Winny, 76mg would enter the bloodstream. If you injected Winny IM, avoiding most first-pass metabolism, you would get closer to 100 mg in the bloodstream, making it a more efficient delivery system. Once in the bloodstrean, the drug will exert its effect and then be metabolized and excreted the same way no matter how the drug entered the body. In conclusion, injecting Winny is most likely more efficient and delivers more drug, but, IMO, not so much more efficient that it outweighs the convenience of oral ingestion."
"The injectable is (naturally) put right into your bloodstream and only undergoes the far less extensive second pass metabolism, while the oral must endure the gut and liver on it’s first pass before ending up in circulation.
Now, here’s the interesting part: When you inject Winstrol, instead of taking it orally, you actually get more nitrogen retention (4) (and hence we can infer, more new muscle tissue is being built). SO if you are trying to use Winstrol to build new muscle tissue, the injectable version is going to be far superior to the Oral version. However, there are some advantages that the oral version has over the injectable, including a possible “synergy” with other drugs- but only (primarily) when taken orally."
Stanozolol
In a study conducted at the Animal Health Unit and Gastrointestinal Sciences, University of Calgary, Alberta, ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days or an intramuscular injection of stanozolol 25 mg on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28. A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/-8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The nitrogen retention action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease.
"The injectable is (naturally) put right into your bloodstream and only undergoes the far less extensive second pass metabolism, while the oral must endure the gut and liver on it’s first pass before ending up in circulation.
Now, here’s the interesting part: When you inject Winstrol, instead of taking it orally, you actually get more nitrogen retention (4) (and hence we can infer, more new muscle tissue is being built). SO if you are trying to use Winstrol to build new muscle tissue, the injectable version is going to be far superior to the Oral version. However, there are some advantages that the oral version has over the injectable, including a possible “synergy” with other drugs- but only (primarily) when taken orally."
Stanozolol
In a study conducted at the Animal Health Unit and Gastrointestinal Sciences, University of Calgary, Alberta, ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days or an intramuscular injection of stanozolol 25 mg on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28. A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/-8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The nitrogen retention action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease.
sparetire
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wouldn't jujitsugirl be better off with primo inject or eq? I would say, if you do have winny, research, research and more research for the correct dosages for women. I know most men usually take 50mgs ed for 6 weeks, and some even take it upwards to 75. It will really make you extremely hard, but I can't imagine what that must do to a girls body at 50mgs.. I would assume maybe 20mgs a day? how say you?
And yes, injecting it is far better than drinking it, but it works quite well if you drink it or take the tabs. All of it is absorbed when injecting it vs. only 75% or less is absorbed when taken orally.
oh, almost forgot.
If you have high cholestoral, a natural path doctor turned me onto this years ago and it does work, because the blood tests showed it - in my case. Take Omega 3 fatty acids in dosages of 3grams to 5grams per day. It takes about a month to get rockin' in your system, but trust me, it works.
When I was taking accutane for adult acne, I was on 80mgs a day for 6 months and my doctor couldn't believe how low my cholestoral was , especially being on accutane. My total was 150 while ON! woot! Plus, it helps with joint pain as well, and you'll need that along with glucosimine for your joints during your winny cycle. My joints never dried out when I took those combos.
I would take CoreOmega 3 in the orange packets. Usually about 29$ at your local health store. And there are these one suppliments that come in a black bottle and each pill is 1gram and made in new zealand, I believe. I used those since it's easier to attain 3-5 grams a day vs. the coreomega ones. and don't take the generic crap they sell at the drug stores - they are rank as hell and you'll be birping fish all day! haha.
And yes, injecting it is far better than drinking it, but it works quite well if you drink it or take the tabs. All of it is absorbed when injecting it vs. only 75% or less is absorbed when taken orally.
oh, almost forgot.
If you have high cholestoral, a natural path doctor turned me onto this years ago and it does work, because the blood tests showed it - in my case. Take Omega 3 fatty acids in dosages of 3grams to 5grams per day. It takes about a month to get rockin' in your system, but trust me, it works.
When I was taking accutane for adult acne, I was on 80mgs a day for 6 months and my doctor couldn't believe how low my cholestoral was , especially being on accutane. My total was 150 while ON! woot! Plus, it helps with joint pain as well, and you'll need that along with glucosimine for your joints during your winny cycle. My joints never dried out when I took those combos.
I would take CoreOmega 3 in the orange packets. Usually about 29$ at your local health store. And there are these one suppliments that come in a black bottle and each pill is 1gram and made in new zealand, I believe. I used those since it's easier to attain 3-5 grams a day vs. the coreomega ones. and don't take the generic crap they sell at the drug stores - they are rank as hell and you'll be birping fish all day! haha.
Good info 8and20 ^^^
Donnie Darko
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8and20 said:
I dated a girl for a couple of years who stopped her 3rd cycle of injectable winny because of the clitoral enlargement. Winstrol, injectable or oral, will eventually cause clitoral hypertrophy.
02gixxersix
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Man we made it what seemed like forever without a "Can I drink winny thread". You can definitely drink it but it will be better utilized if injected.
jiujitsugirl
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sparetire said:
Thanks!!
Yeah, I took Accutane once as well.... but only for 3 months. It worked super fast for me and I didn't need it any longer. I will def get the CoreOmega 3 and look for the New Zealand one as well.
I have some Omega 3's that I used to take. I also eat a good bit of salmon and other cold water fish when I can.
jiujitsugirl
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ryno9000 said:
Haha, yeah.... what's up with that shit?? I don't want a big clit! Mine's pretty just how it is, hahaha
02gixxersix
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jiujitsugirl said:
jiujitsugirl
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timtim said:
Just a hard "look"?? Or will it also give me gains in strength? I could definitely use that for my Open Class BJJ tournaments!
