T-400 bottle Underfilled??????

[futrmro]

Is everybody's bottle of T400 about half full ( or half empty,which ever you perfer) This sucks

 

[lawnsaver]

Dont tell me this, I just sent for 2.

Bump for some more feedback!

 

[MaxBiceps]

It's just a fact of life, bro. If it's made in Mexico for veterinary purposes, expect it to be at least slightly underfilled.

 

[IronFist]

Either someone screwed with your bottle, you can't count, or you are looking at a bottle that theoretically can hold 16cc and because it looks half full, you assume you are shorted. I've been through 2 bottles and both were around 9- 10 cc's.

 

[Fumunda]

Hey Ironfist....Did heating your T-400 help with the injection pain at all?...Fumunda

 

[lawnsaver]

Either someone screwed with your bottle, you can't count, or you are looking at a bottle that theoretically can hold 16cc and because it looks half full, you assume you are shorted. I've been through 2 bottles and both were around 9- 10 cc's.

Thanks fist, I thought it sounded a little funny.

 

[IronFist]

Hey Ironfist....Did heating your T-400 help with the injection pain at all?...Fumunda

Heating it definately made it more comfortable. I repeated the procedure twice to get as much alcohol out as possible. I don't think it affected the potency at all. I am taking 2cc of t400 and some winny/eq. I am up 15lbs. in 4 weeks and puffy as all hell even with provirom.

 

[nuh_mizer]

I was just going to post about this. Yes, they are underfilled. I bought 3 of them. They all appeared to have the same amount in them. I visually compared the bottle to a 10ml bottle of ttokkyo EQ and not only was the EQ bottle larger, I had more gear in it.
After I pulled my last injection out I did the math and it came out to about 8.5ml. And before you say it, yes i was careful when I measured it and did not have the needle itself filled with gear, I just measured from the first line to the 1ml line on the seringe.

 

[futrmro]

Thanks Nuh...I know that it wasn't 10ml of liquid in the bottle. Every other 10ml vial that I have used has always had more liquid in it. Thanks for the info bro's

 

[Digital Ronin]

Mine looks fine... I'll know in a few more weeks and I mix mine with my Eq before shooting and it alleviates almost all the soreness with injecting...

 

[nuh_mizer]

I was going to send ausvet.com an e-mail about the issue but there contact button doesn't work. And to think they slam ttokkyo.

 

[Slopain]

 

[KINGKONG69]

nuh-mizer is right, here's a pic of tokkoy eq, against t-400, and the eq bottle seems larger.

 

[nuh_mizer]

thanks kingkong. Great pic

 

[dork]

nuh-mizer is right, here's a pic of tokkoy eq, against t-400, and the eq bottle seems larger.

hey is that EQ bottle un-opened?
Is that a full 10 ml?

 

[KINGKONG69]

both are un opened

 

[futrmro]

See I'm not loosing my mind

 

[Slopain]

hey is that EQ bottle un-opened?
Is that a full 10 ml?

wha?? you mean it isn't supposed to be filled to the top? you mean I can't really measure 10cc's by looking at a glass vial with liquide inside? You mean my eyes are not more accurate then the computers controlled machines that fill this bottle up.

 

[IronFist]

i AM GOING TO TRY TO FIND A 10CC SYRINGE AND PULL OUT THE CONTENTS OF ONE OF MY UNOPENED BOTTLES. tHERE IS NO WAT THAT THERE IS LESS THAN 9CC'S.

 

[Slopain]

i AM GOING TO TRY TO FIND A 10CC SYRINGE AND PULL OUT THE CONTENTS OF ONE OF MY UNOPENED BOTTLES. tHERE IS NO WAT THAT THERE IS LESS THAN 9CC'S.

I have done it many times with ttokkyo products and a few times with denkall products they are ALWAYS between 9.5 and about 10.5 ml's give or take a few tenths of a ml. That is if you do it on one draw. This topic has been beat to death - those posting that: "IM GETTING FUCKEN RIPPED OFF MAN" are always wrong in reguards to denkall and ttokkyo gear. They draw like 10 times and lose .125 - .250 ml each time which adds up to a few cc's. Its not the bottles its their injections techniques or just presuming that since the bottle isnt filled to the top that there isn't 10ml's in there.

 

[nuh_mizer]

I wasn't measuring with my eyeballs, but I couldn't help but notice that the EQ bottle is bigger and has more fluid. Unless the EQ is grossly overfilled (which I would be more than happy with) I'd say the T400 is underfilled and I proved it at the end of my cycle when I came up about 1.5 mls short. I'm not saying it's bad gear, just underfilled. It's not my extraction technique. I measured the mls carefully.

 

[Slopain]

I wasn't measuring with my eyeballs, but I couldn't help but notice that the EQ bottle is bigger and has more fluid. Unless the EQ is grossly overfilled (which I would be more than happy with) I'd say the T400 is underfilled and I proved it at the end of my cycle when I came up about 1.5 mls short. I'm not saying it's bad gear, just underfilled. It's not my extraction technique. I measured the mls carefully.

This is exactly what Im talking about - mind you I have no experience with the t400 but speaking from experience I can almost guarentee you are wrong. I dont know what the hell is wrong with the search but here let me try and see what I can come up with b/c I myself have posted over 10 times why you are wrong. YOU CANNOT TELL ACCURETLY AT THE END OF YOUR CYCLE THAT YOUR BOTTLE IS 1.5ml SHORT. Im not saying its bad or good gear I could care less, but I see this so often and the ignorance gives good products (not saying t400 is or isnt) bad reps.

 

[big dog]

Look at the thickness of the glass, The Ttokkyo Eq has a much thicker vial.

 

[nuh_mizer]

Slo-
Brother I don't know what to say. I'm just stating what I've discovered. I've used alot of other stuff that comes in bottles and I've seen them be much closer to what they say they are. I never said it was "exactly" 1.5 ml short, I said "about". I'm sure you know your shit and must have a valid point, but I callz it like I seez it.

 

[KINGKONG69]

really, the only accurate way to tell would be to suck it out with a 10ml syringe, and see how it measures up.
what ive learned to do is never draw the whole ml out, stop like almost 1 notch before.

 

[dork]

wha?? you mean it isn't supposed to be filled to the top? you mean I can't really measure 10cc's by looking at a glass vial with liquide inside? You mean my eyes are not more accurate then the computers controlled machines that fill this bottle up.