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1badgerman

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Hey
I,m seriously thinking about using synthol in my bis.,tris. and shoulders. What dosage do you recomend and what are the side effects . allso A good brand name ?
 
if you dont compete, why the fuck use synthol?

seirously, its dudes like you that fuck shit up for bb'ers and give us a bad rep!
 
satchboogie said:
if you dont compete, why the fuck use synthol?

seirously, its dudes like you that fuck shit up for bb'ers and give us a bad rep!

True, but not wholly..
Dude, some guys have tried everything to grow a specific genetically
held-back muscle group. For my training buddy it's his biceps.
He's quite enormous, and we tried everything to grow his biceps.
Doing so many routines my own biceps have grown to bic-zilla size, but
his didn't. He eats like me every 2 hours when awake, we both use the
same gear (gh, test, deca, t3, winstrol etc etc) but still...

I devoted myself to his problem and have scanned his every move to
understand why this is. In my family (both sides) everyone has good arm
muscles. Maybe it's bc he sleeps on his arm and he says he always wakes up at night bc sleeping arm, then he switches to his other etc..
Maybe bc of this the don't get nutrients and oxygen to recover during the important night/sleep time. So he tries to sleep otherwise which is no fun off
course.

Anyways to come to the point.. I have read some shit about the fascia of a mucle. Some sort of thin layer around muscles. Some people tend to have a tight fascia so the muscle has trouble expanding.
Now synthol like oils have seemed to stretch this fascia up so the muscle can continue growing. But before we do such, I want to learn more about it. We don't want ugly striae or something on the arms..

So if one has a muscle really held back, i think it could really help some. but just for fun or extra size..nah i prefer building real mscle.
 
i know a coulple of guys that use it just before a show. i myself stay away from the shit. i think it makes your muscle bellys look too round to where everyone will know what you did and i haven't really heard much on what that stuff does to you in the long run. :worried:
 
satchboogie said:
if you dont compete, why the fuck use synthol?

seirously, its dudes like you that fuck shit up for bb'ers and give us a bad rep!

I agree, but this site is pushing the product and not many people know how to use it properly. Lots of young non professional bodybuilders are looking for the quick way to achieve the results they want (aka using steroids) and will cause problems for themselves using the product. I would think the guys that are "qualified" (i.e. pros) to use this product correctly, already do. This is JMO, but this is a bad product for this site to be pushing/advertising because this site does reach sooooo many non-professional bodybuilders.
 
satchboogie said:
if you dont compete, why the fuck use synthol?

seirously, its dudes like you that fuck shit up for bb'ers and give us a bad rep!

funny how there is sort of taboo against synthol. this iwouldneverstoopthatlow mentality from many BBers who think nothing of shooting themselves with anabolics, HGH, insulin, and more.

agreed it is creepy to use if for noncompetition purposes, but wonder how common use really is in competitions. it is fun to snicker at pics at BBers who have made messes of their bodies with synthol. sort of like celebrities who have had bad plastic surgery.

how do we really know there is not GOOD synthol usage, that which is not that obvious? some of these pros, with their superhero physiques, may have learned to use synthol quite effectively. maybe someone like needsize can answer this.
 
ilpadrone said:
True, but not wholly..
Dude, some guys have tried everything to grow a specific genetically
held-back muscle group. For my training buddy it's his biceps.
He's quite enormous, and we tried everything to grow his biceps.
Doing so many routines my own biceps have grown to bic-zilla size, but
his didn't. He eats like me every 2 hours when awake, we both use the
same gear (gh, test, deca, t3, winstrol etc etc) but still...

I devoted myself to his problem and have scanned his every move to
understand why this is. In my family (both sides) everyone has good arm
muscles. Maybe it's bc he sleeps on his arm and he says he always wakes up at night bc sleeping arm, then he switches to his other etc..
Maybe bc of this the don't get nutrients and oxygen to recover during the important night/sleep time. So he tries to sleep otherwise which is no fun off
course.

Anyways to come to the point.. I have read some shit about the fascia of a mucle. Some sort of thin layer around muscles. Some people tend to have a tight fascia so the muscle has trouble expanding.
Now synthol like oils have seemed to stretch this fascia up so the muscle can continue growing. But before we do such, I want to learn more about it. We don't want ugly striae or something on the arms..

So if one has a muscle really held back, i think it could really help some. but just for fun or extra size..nah i prefer building real mscle.

its one thing when you have taken the years to build your body up like that,a nd just have one lagging part that you have tried everything to fix, I still wouldnt do it but can see some value in that.
But when you have a list of 3-4 parts you want to hit with it, then obviously you havent put in the time, and should actually try and grow some mass first...
And as far as the comment about we shoot ourselves up with anabolics, why not that...because no matter how much gear you use, its still real muscle you build, synthol isnt muscle, its no different than getting implants, which is absolutely useless
 
I used it before contests in the past, but I used it sparingly. Between the soreness and bruising it just wasn't worth it imnsho. For guys that don't compete, why not just give yourself localized injections with your normal gear? It will add a small amount of instant size that lasts a few days or so. I hit my bi's with T or EQ every other week or so and it adds a nice touch. No, it doesn't make my bi's look like I hit them with a football needle and an air compressor like Synthol does over time, but it will give you some immediate gratification in appearance. Nobody really knows what the long term effects are of Synthol in the body. Using gear is risky enough-why make yourself more of a human guinea pig more than you already are? As far as competition goes? If you think using Synthol will be the difference between 1st and 2nd place, then maybe you should? Stuff like Synthol and insulin are the reason I don't compete any longer. Rolling the dice with your health to win has become the norm these days. Whatever you do, just give it some serious thought beforehand. Good luck.
 
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BigCracker said:
I used it before contests in the past, but I used it sparingly. Between the soreness and bruising it just wasn't worth it imnsho. For guys that don't compete, why not just give yourself localized injections with your normal gear? It will add a small amount of instant size that lasts a few days or so. I hit my bi's with T or EQ every other week or so and it adds a nice touch. No, it doesn't make my bi's look like I hit them with a football needle and an air compressor like Synthol does over time, but it will give you some immediate gratification in appearance. Nobody really knows what the long term effects are of in the body. Using gear is risky enough-why make yourself more of a human guinea pig more than you already are? As far as competition goes? If you think using Synthol will be the difference between 1st and 2nd place, then maybe you should? Stuff like Synthol and insulin are the reason I don't compete any longer. Rolling the dice with your health to win has become the norm these days. Whatever you do, just give it some serious thought beforehand. Good luck.
thanks bro!for the positive input . as for the other replys from other members you suck ! I was only wanting to know a little more about this product from someone that has used it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
satchboogie said:
if you dont compete, why the fuck use synthol?

seirously, its dudes like you that fuck shit up for bb'ers and give us a bad rep!

satchboogie
your input directed me know where. you should have kept your little post to yourself !! I thought this site was about learning and sharing expieriences !
 
Alpine said:
I agree, but this site is pushing the product and not many people know how to use it properly. Lots of young non professional bodybuilders are looking for the quick way to achieve the results they want (aka using steroids) and will cause problems for themselves using the product. I would think the guys that are "qualified" (i.e. pros) to use this product correctly, already do. This is JMO, but this is a bad product for this site to be pushing/advertising because this site does reach sooooo many non-professional bodybuilders.

Im only wanting to know more about it. Im not pushing anything!!!!!!
 
BigCracker said:
I used it before contests in the past, but I used it sparingly. Between the soreness and bruising it just wasn't worth it imnsho. For guys that don't compete, why not just give yourself localized injections with your normal gear? It will add a small amount of instant size that lasts a few days or so. I hit my bi's with T or EQ every other week or so and it adds a nice touch. No, it doesn't make my bi's look like I hit them with a football needle and an air compressor like Synthol does over time, but it will give you some immediate gratification in appearance. Nobody really knows what the long term effects are of in the body. Using gear is risky enough-why make yourself more of a human guinea pig more than you already are? As far as competition goes? If you think using Synthol will be the difference between 1st and 2nd place, then maybe you should? Stuff like Synthol and insulin are the reason I don't compete any longer. Rolling the dice with your health to win has become the norm these days. Whatever you do, just give it some serious thought beforehand. Good luck.

Thanks bro.
your one of a few that answered my question instead of attacking me like im a source or trying to find one.
 
1badgerman said:
Thanks bro.
your one of a few that answered my question instead of attacking me like im a source or trying to find one.

No reach-around necessary. Now quit pandering your product to us you cheater!!! :p
 
NEEDSIZE

This has nothing to do with this thread - I assume that's you in the avatar - I didn't think your type of physique was on Elite, as Elite is more of a newbies board. You look good. If you bring your legs up to match your upperbody, you will have a very good competitive physique that can take you far, as you look young as well.
 
Let me enlighten you with some facts. Synthol is a tool just like a/s and many other things bodybuilders use such as steroids or other hormones that are tools used in the bodybuilding community. Time and time again you will see people bashing synthol and stating things about the product that are truly simply incorrect. There are many people on these boards who say things about products they never used, seen, let along know anything about them but they enjoy being the center of attention so they feel the need to pretend like they know something. Or simply try to fit in and agree with others they think know something but they truly dont.

When using synthol unlike doing site injections, After the oil is injected into the muscle group it stretches the muscle fascia. The muscle fascia is the sheath that encompasses your muscle. When that sheath is stretched the silica found in synthol tends to harden and over time it slowy disipates or is released. During this period of the muscle fascia being stretched the muscle has more room for growth. As the site oil slowly disipates from the fascia the actual muscle starts to fill out the area that was stretched. Hence your gain when using synthol can be permanent if used properly.

Please note if you do not massage the area for several minutes after each injection continuously on a regular basis when it does its job you will most definately get the effects of improper synthol usage. Therefore massaging each group you are injecting into this is a must or you will indeed be very sorry you didnt.

This is the biggest mistake of those abusing synthol and giving it a bad name. These people are simply lazy and do not know how to take the time & research products as such and end up making themselves look like the laughing stocks of our community. The second biggest mistake is not researching the product. There are some types of synthol that have various ingredients in them that increase scar tissue which will also destroy the original purpose of the product which was to replace a drug called esiclean after it production was stopped years ago.

Esiclene would allow for any muscle to increase in size within a very short period of time. Basically esiclene stimulates the tissue at the point of injection causing a slightly painful inflammation and swelling of the muscle tissue itself. Hence Synthol does something similar but for a much longer duration.

Below you will find a interview done with Chris Clark the inventor of Synthol: I have left out some pieces do to advertisements but this was taken from Dave Palumbos site & here is his interview with Chris Clark the original inventor of synthol.


Rx: What is your full name?

CC: My full name is Christopher T. Clark.

Rx: What nationality are you?
CC: I am German.

Rx: Where were you born?
CC: I was born in the city of Kaiserslautern, Germany; a city that is actually pretty well known by many US citizens as “K-town” because of its many US military bases like Ramstein-Airbase.

Rx: How did you get started in bodybuilding?

CC: How did I get started in bodybuilding…. well… having been involved in martial arts early in my life, and NOT the usual German Soccer-crazed kind of guy, I got involved in bodybuilding by coincidence. One night I was out for a few beers in town and I stumbled across a small gym. Drunk as I was, I decided to go to the place next day to sign up. You need to understand, that was in the late 70’s and bodybuilders were all “fags”, so it really took a lot of guts to enter one of these “butt-parlours” and sign up without risking becoming gay yourself. I mean country-side-Germany in the late 70’s was a real trip. People around me couldn’t understand that I kept my girlfriend after joining one of these supposed gay-pick-ups.
To this day, I have to admit, I have not turned gay! Haha

Rx: Did you compete? How far did you go?
CC: As a matter of fact, I did compete once. It was an international German championship-- a qualifier for the German’s in Munich. I was placed 3rd in the 90-KG class and, then, I was disqualified for some reason. Strangely enough, when I started bodybuilding, I was 21 years old and weight in at a desert-dry 108 pounds. Four years later I had to diet down to 90 kg/198 pounds because I was afraid to start in the heavyweights.

Right from the start I got involved with steroids and by my addictive nature quickly made me a “name” as someone “in the know”. That’s perhaps the main reason for the disqualification at this contest. After this one gig, I decided not to compete anymore because I was told that, in case of testing, I’d ALWAYS be positive no matter what. That is how my competitive career ended before it even started.

Rx: In the bodybuilding world, you are known as “Mr. Synthol”—why do they call you that?

CC: The nickname “Mr Synthol” was actually given to me by the British bodybuilding-press. I was invited to come over to England by John Citrone, one of the best bodybuilders of the past, the present, and perhaps, despite his age of well above 60, still a threat to all upcoming youngsters. Mr. Citrone is one of very few people I could idolize in this sport, even though I rarely idolize people at all. I idolize people for their intellectual makeup more so than for their physiques. I never, not even at the beginning of my “bodybuilding-career”, idolized Arnold Schwarzenegger for his physique-- always for his intelligence. You know, when I started bodybuilding it was believed that all bodybuilders MUST BE stupid.

When I then found out, for instance, that Mr.”Governator” was already making millions before people even could pronounce his name, I almost went for a total brain-amputation. During my stay with Mr. Citrone, a young man interviewed me by the name of Mark Parsons, who published the interview under the headline “Mr Synthol Speaks”. That’s how I got this nickname, which became my trademark.

Rx: Where did you get the idea to create Synthol?

CC: Ok, you really want to know exactly WHERE I got the idea to create Synthol? I mean we are “The Hardcore Holy Grail of Bodybuilding Truth”, aren’t we?

I was trying to think up a replacement for the original Esiclene (formebolone) from Italy, a steroid that was very popular in the 80’s for site-enhancement. It is true, when I got notice from Italy that Esiclene was out of production, I started thinking about some replacement. The fact that I found something that is far superior to Esiclene and many other steroids commonly used for site enhancement is also old news.

I actually thought up the idea while sitting on the “throne of Kings and Queens” (as we say in Germany); or, while on the toilet (for you Americans). Ok guys, don’t block up all the “thrones” at Gold’s or World gym and don’t risk the peace in your house with the intention to come up with some crazy idea. I doubt that the real, first, GURU, Dan Duchaine, locked himself away in “total privacy” to think up all his wonderfully crazy but innovative ideas. In my own case, I believe that the idea might have stricken me at McD’s if I would have been there at this particular time in my life.

RX: What process did you have to go through to perfect the formulation and to get the best results?

CC: This one is a long story. At first, I had to search for the right base product for my idea. Since I was always my own lab rat, I went through some pretty heavy setbacks such as infections in various body parts (at one point, some doctor in Morocco thought the only way to save my life was by amputating my right lower leg). At this time, I was experimenting with sterilized sesame oil. This is a practise many self-proclaimed “supermen” still do. Trust me, it’s very dangerous! The strange fact about this trial was that I used the stuff only in my calves, but I came down with infections ALL OVER my body, (including my shoulders).

The most dangerous thing that ever happened to me was coming down with a lung embolism. But this had, just like in Milos’ case, NOTHING to do with the product, but only with wrong injection technique. I could go on forever, but this would go far beyond the scope of this interview, so let’s stay with Julius Cesar, “Vene, Vidi, Vici”, (He came, saw and conquered).

Rx: I think all of our readers would love to know exactly what ingredients are used to fabricate Synthol?

CC: Well Dave, it’s not only our readers that would like to know exactly WHAT ingredients I use to fabricate P+P. There are a thousand and one counterfeit copycat-rats who’d like to know exactly what the hell I really use. You have to understand that I will punk out on this question.

Rx: Why does your original product work so much better than all the other “copycats” out there?

CC: I have a solid 10 years of research with literally uncountable thousands of athletes under my belt, which, on their behalf, provided me with all kinds of useful information. Secondly, copying my product is not a problem. Every idiot could go ahead and take a bottle, fill in some dunk, put a label on it saying “Synthol” or whatever. But that’s just a counterfeit/copycat, which has nothing to do with the original. You need to know WHAT the hell you are doing when MAKING the product. You have to understand all the biological and biochemical pathways by which such a product could be used up by the body. And you MUST know what happens inside of your muscles and your body, in general. You must start with the foods you eat, the hormonal changes your body induces by ingesting different substances, and the enzymatic changes that take place with whatever you do.

Bodybuilding is MUCH more than just throwing around some weights, popping some pills, stabbing your butt with a different dart every day, and chewing down a cow and an apple along with 2 gallons of water a day. This might work for one particular guy, but let’s be honest Dave, where would YOU be without your outstanding intellect today? Damn sure not where you are now, in front of me, being my BOSS. I have to admit, I’m thinking about this for the first time, and it does bother me somehow--better watch your chair Dave. Just kidding!

Rx: What do you think of the other “site-enhancement” products (as they are called)? Why are they inferior to yours?
CC: I guess I answered this one already. The others products are inferior to mine just for the fact that mostly idiots try to copy my product. Sorry if I appear a bit cocky, but facts are facts. If it weren’t for that particular fact, all products would work equally well, right?

Rx: Are there any new “inventions” of yours on the horizon?

CC: Viewing the extreme wide scale of my horizon (JUST KIDDIN´), I can only say “watch me” guys. There’s a lot to come!

Rx: Will you make a new and improved Synthol, or is it already perfect?

CC: Let’s put it this way: At this particular time in my life, the product I produce is as perfect as can be. Viewed on a larger scale, I have to admit that the Synthol of today is as perfect as the newest PC of today. This could mean that today’s Synthol will be old news tomorrow.
Let’s wait and see, Ok?

Rx: What, in your opinion, is the best way to use Synthol? How many times a week should you inject it?

CC: Ok I do have to make a statement here: Pump N´ Pose, at least the product I produce and sell, is not intended for parenteral injection. It is for topical use only!

Of course, I am not my brother’s keeper, so I cannot know, and really do not want to know, what the “customer” is doing with whatever product they purchase.

In the case of Synthol, it is advisable to use the product on a 3 times per week schedule in small amounts up to 3 cc. After 3 weeks of this dosing, the frequency of application has to be decreased to a twice a week application. The most important tip I can give is to use the product over a longer, at least 6-month, period. Sure, many of the readers will say now, ”He is trying to push product?” But I say this for some very important reasons.
I will outline everything about site-enhancement in my soon-to-be-published book, Site-Location Superhuman.

Rx: Are the results really permanent?

CC: Now we get to the real meat, literally. Depending on the duration of application, the size desired, factors such as diet, training, rest periods, application of different growth drugs and the like, all the acquired size can be made into SOLID muscle tissue. And, you do NOT need other growth drugs to get this effect! And this is the truly significant fact about my invention!
So basically, the answer to your question is a simple, YES!

Rx: Are there any prohibited substances in your Synthol?

CC: No my product, the original Synthosizze HP Pump N´Pose now available as lot number 877/9 does NOT contain any prohibited substances.

Rx: Are there any health concerns related to your product?
CC: Just as above with my original product, none of the users worldwide experience any kinds of health problems. Unfortunately, this does not hold true for most of the copycats as they contain everything from industrial silicone, to silly fish oils, to whatever some “brain surgeon” thinks up to improve “holding-time” as they call it. What a fucking stupid expression--”holding-time”.

Rx: I heard that, a few years ago, you had kidney cancer and needed to have a kidney removed. What caused that?
CC: You are right; several years ago I came down with cancer of my right kidney. As a matter of fact, I was not too surprised when my doctor told me the diagnosis. I had been in and out of the doctor’s office for a solid 3 years with ever increasing back pain. The only answer this idiot doctor always gave me was, “Well, that’s from training, or from your high protein intake, or whatever fuckin’ excuse he could find in order to perform some kind of testing.

See, in Germany (especially countryside) being a bodybuilder means you are, for sure, too stupid to sign your name. So it might happen that, being at some office, when it comes time to sign some papers they shift over the stamp pad in order for you to leave your fingerprint for verification. That’s unfortunately no joke. If you’re a bodybuilder, they assume that you’re stupid and definitely a criminal (i.e. pimp, drug-dealer). That’s how they treat you here.

Anyways, after 3 years of severe pain and uncountable bottles of painkillers or should I say “bain-killers”, I finally went to the idiot’s office and threatened him and told him to do whatever fuckin’ test he wanted.
The rest is history. Some months later, I went to the local hospital, which, at least in the urological department, had a very good reputation throughout Europe (thanks to their boss, Dr. Pinkenburg, MD). He told me what exactly was wrong and didn’t hesitate to tell me that my chances are not too good. So, in light of the fact that I was given a 5% survival-chance, I decided to take a private room (which you pay extra for-- a solid 286 bucks per night).
I figured that I had a 95% chance to get away with the bill, right?
After nine days in the hospital I released myself early (against the advice of Dr.Pinkenburg), realizing the fact that the bill would indeed surely hit me.
Fact of the matter is, no doctor in the world could have connected my disease with my bodybuilding drug abuse. I had been on GH and IGF-1 for three years straight plus all the other crap. The histological estimation of the age of the tumor (which grew out of my right kidney straight towards my liver and was removed with about 2mm of space between the tumor and my liver) was approximately 3 years.

So, make your own assumption please. In the mean time, I also survived a very serious case of thrombosis of the large hip-thigh vein on my right leg, which I am still fighting with.

Rx: In your opinion, which bodybuilder abuses Synthol the worst?

CC: I can’t tell you which bodybuilder abuses Synthol the worst; I am just amazed how many bodybuilders, amateurs and pros, use it so damn well. If I look at some guys, I know WHO is “cooking my soup”-- trust me!
The few freaks on which you do see what’s “cooking”, I wouldn’t call them bodybuilders. Bodybuilding is about sculpting the PERFECT body, not outgrowing your front-door tree with the size of your arms. But I do like the freaks; just for the fact that they do what they do and do it extremely well too. Bodybuilders? No, that’s not what those people are.

Rx: Have you helped train or advice any well-known bodybuilders?

CC: If I had a penny for every bodybuilder I helped, directly or indirectly, I am sure I’d be your boss, respectively; I wouldn’t have to work anymore.
The unfair matter about this is that I get calls at my home from all over the world and all kinds of very well known top pros.

At the FIBO, they are all friendly but try to keep a certain distance from me. Behind closed doors, some would kiss my feet, literally. But, no one would like to be seen with me. The only guy who ever was really nice to me in public, at the FIBO in Essen, was Ken “Flex” Wheeler. When he saw me standing in front of him, he pulled over a second chair and I was sitting at the booth of his sponsor with him. I’ll never forget this. Ken’s got some real backbone-- a real “MAN”. When I go to Gold’s in Venice, it always spreads like wildfire and everybody is my friend all of a sudden. But, around contest time, I am a strict No-No for the same people.

Rx: What do you think about the current state of affairs in the world of bodybuilding? What would you do to fix it?
CC: Bodybuilding has gone very far within the last 25 years even though it is still the same guys from 10 years ago who are standing up on stage year after year and winning or placing the same. We do not have set comparison-criteria in bodybuilding. It is all a matter of taste who will win or loose.
Just imagine you’ve got 7 judges (3 homosexuals, 3 lesbians, and one straight judge). Don’t get me wrong; being homosexual or lesbian is OK in my book. But tell me, who is going to judge objectively?

At the moment, Germany is has strong competitors in Markus Ruehl, Heiko Kallbach, and sexy Susan Bock. And we do have a huge pool of good bodybuilders coming up in the years to come. But I think, like for instance in Formula 1 racing, the contests like Mr.O should be held at different locations in order to give each of the competitors from around the planet the chance to be the “homeboy” at least once in their career. The Americans do have a very strong lobby in their own country. Also, I believe such practise would help to commercialize the sport of bodybuilding better and would give the top dogs a better chance of earning the kind of living they deserve since they are essentially risking their lives to compete.

Of course, the audiences at the contests want to see more and more beef on stage and the bodybuilders tend to accept this hunger for more mass and go far beyond what is good or healthy. But, the average “Joe-blow” doesn’t know anything about what these guys are going through to deliver what the fans expect. And I’m not even mentioning the financial aspects of this whole ball game.

Rx: Would you like to add anything or “plug” anything?

CC: I would like to thank you for the chance to do this interview and speak my mind. And I’d like to see more friendship and respect for each other, especially on the pro level. There is a lot of negative gossip out there. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? We are all sitting in the same boat, but all steering in a different direction. We need to join forces and use the media FOR ourselves, all together. Then, we wouldn’t see guys die trying to perfect their physiques, or go flat broke.

Catch me if you can, thanks, yours Chris
 
the real big a said:
NEEDSIZE

This has nothing to do with this thread - I assume that's you in the avatar - I didn't think your type of physique was on Elite, as Elite is more of a newbies board. You look good. If you bring your legs up to match your upperbody, you will have a very good competitive physique that can take you far, as you look young as well.

thanks, that is me
my quads actually seemed to outclass my upper body when I started this contest diet, but 90 minutes of cardio a day with not many carbs has left them tiny, I just pray they come back when I get some carbs
 
needsize said:
thanks, that is me
my quads actually seemed to outclass my upper body when I started this contest diet, but 90 minutes of cardio a day with not many carbs has left them tiny, I just pray they come back when I get some carbs

That's good. That means you have the muscle, so next comp you just need to find another way to keep them full.
Good luck.
 
1badgerman said:
I have no product and I dont do guys bro. post on a gay chatt to find a new lover


Obviously you left you sense of humor at McDonald's this morning.


I was only kidding-now you're sending me nastygrams via PM? I'm truly impressed by anyone that has the intestinal fortitude to trash talk me on the internet from 3000 miles away. You are bad ass! Here's your ticket to becoming a pro bb-you can thank me later.

Lou Zwick from Musclemag is looking for a young amateur to sponsor-he'll pay your air fare, free room and board too. Well...it won't be 100% free, but it probably won't cost you any money. Anyway, give him a call-he'll hook you up with some free phone sex at the very least. It might make you a little less uptight.
 
1badgerman said:
Im only wanting to know more about it. Im not pushing anything!!!!!!

I understand your are not, but Elite Fitness does. I've seen alot more synthol threads lately since this product has been advertised on EF.
 
Alpine said:
I understand your are not, but Elite Fitness does. I've seen alot more synthol threads lately since this product has been advertised on EF.


Well look at it this way atleast you have a few professionals here who have done research & know about the product and how it truly works to ask questions about. Now also instead of a bunch of young kids bashing it right and left your getting some facts and truthful answers. Something you probably havent seen much of here in the past when it comes to synthol. A lot of uneducated people talking negatively on the products is what you find on a lot of sites. Hopefully we can help you understand synthol is not for everyone but it does have its place in the b/b community. We are here to help answer questions comments and concerns with any of the synthetek products. Even though as you see I am a board sponsor for the products from www.synthetek.com I prefer to allow for someone like BigA to elaborate on them for I dont want people assuming because I have this ad here I will give a biased opinion. I do not think that is good business and i will give nothing but that facts from what i knwo from either research or first hand experience not hearsay. We want real life people who have experienced the products first hand telling their results. So please do if you have had first hand experience with any of our products elaborate on them here so we can get as much feed back to the members as possible.


Mr.Huge
 
ilpadrone said:
True, but not wholly..
Dude, some guys have tried everything to grow a specific genetically
held-back muscle group. For my training buddy it's his biceps.
He's quite enormous, and we tried everything to grow his biceps.
Doing so many routines my own biceps have grown to bic-zilla size, but
his didn't. He eats like me every 2 hours when awake, we both use the
same gear (gh, test, deca, t3, winstrol etc etc) but still...

I devoted myself to his problem and have scanned his every move to
understand why this is. In my family (both sides) everyone has good arm
muscles. Maybe it's bc he sleeps on his arm and he says he always wakes up at night bc sleeping arm, then he switches to his other etc..
Maybe bc of this the don't get nutrients and oxygen to recover during the important night/sleep time. So he tries to sleep otherwise which is no fun off
course.

Anyways to come to the point.. I have read some shit about the fascia of a mucle. Some sort of thin layer around muscles. Some people tend to have a tight fascia so the muscle has trouble expanding.
Now synthol like oils have seemed to stretch this fascia up so the muscle can continue growing. But before we do such, I want to learn more about it. We don't want ugly striae or something on the arms..

So if one has a muscle really held back, i think it could really help some. but just for fun or extra size..nah i prefer building real mscle.

I think the fascia concept is probably a big factor. I have torn some of the fascia on my outer quad, the vastus lateralis area, and that one side has become a bit bigger than my other leg. I could hear it tear as I did a heavy squat, and the pain was terrible. Years later though, that part of my leg is still bigger.
 
Alpine said:
I understand your are not, but Elite Fitness does. I've seen alot more synthol threads lately since this product has been advertised on EF.

this is a good thread. there are a zillion threads that are exactly the same topic over, and over, and over. just because you don't agree with synthol usage doesn't mean noone should post about it.
 
maldorf said:
I think the fascia concept is probably a big factor. I have torn some of the fascia on my outer quad, the vastus lateralis area, and that one side has become a bit bigger than my other leg. I could hear it tear as I did a heavy squat, and the pain was terrible. Years later though, that part of my leg is still bigger.

Jep it sure is for some folks! Dude how exactly did you tare it? When going down
or up. I tell you my brother want's to do crazy things to get those biceps
growing. I hope he doesn't put a knife in them some day to cut his damned
fascia out..lol. If someone wants to grow them, he's it.
We are now discussing for him to give Synthol a try.. Learning about it first. he's What's holding him back is that someone told him this ghoststory about muscles rotting away b/c of synthol usage.
I hope Mr Huge or other collegues can help my brother on that one?
 
ilpadrone said:
he's What's holding him back is that someone told him this ghoststory about muscles rotting away b/c of synthol usage.
I hope Mr Huge or other collegues can help my brother on that one?

That can't happen. When SEO's first came out, I spoke to a few doctors about how they work and whether the oil could wrap itself around the muscle fibers and stop them from 'breathing', etc. All said it is impossible for that.
All that the oil will do is to stretch the space between the fibers, no damage will be done to the fibers themselves.

Of course, if you abuse SEO's, and don't give them a chance to dissipate and grow the muscle tissue, you can get a sterile abscess, which is from too much oil being in one spot and the body not being able to dissipate it in time.

That is why I strongly suggest to everyone to use my SEO guide, because doing the SEOs any other way, you can have problems or you won't get the results that you should get.
 
ilpadrone said:
Jep it sure is for some folks! Dude how exactly did you tare it? When going down
or up. I tell you my brother want's to do crazy things to get those biceps
growing. I hope he doesn't put a knife in them some day to cut his damned
fascia out..lol. If someone wants to grow them, he's it.
We are now discussing for him to give Synthol a try.. Learning about it first. he's What's holding him back is that someone told him this ghoststory about muscles rotting away b/c of synthol usage.
I hope Mr Huge or other collegues can help my brother on that one?


The ghosts stories your brother has heard of do exhist, however this is not from synthol usage it is from improper placement of actual implants done through cosmetic surgery.

Implant surgery isn't very common, and it's something to be very careful about, especially with calf implants. You have to know how to handle the tissue carefully. You have to know the limitations of what size implant each individual person will tolerate, because there are many cases where calf implants have led to amputations.

That's right. Implant patients have had their legs sawed off due to gangrene. If the implants used are too big and crush the muscle fibers, the result is often rotting and amputation. Of course it's kept quiet, but there are plenty of cases. It becomes very common is with surgeons who dabble in doing this. They will go ahead and do it, not recognizing what the potential dangers are.

How can fiber crushing be avoided? Easily, if the doctor pre-determines what size of implant the client's body can handle. What the try to do is create a pocket and judge what the elasticity of the tissue is. They can see what size of implant can be safely tolerated, so they can whittle the implant down a little if necessary so that it know it will give improvement, but safely so.

Gangrene is definitely the surgery's ultimate horror story, but infection can cause nightmares as well. That's why patients shower with antibacterial soap and are given intravenous antibiotics before surgery. If infection sets in, patients will usually have their implants removed. The body very often has a difficult time fighting off infections with a foreign body in it. If an infection does develop, you often have to remove the implant to let the infection clear and then go and put the implant back. In other words, you end up being sliced and spliced three times instead of one. That's triple the pain which is not very pleasant.

The results aren't guaranteed, and problems are a possibility and pain is a sure thing, but men are volunteering for such controversial procedures. Some men too are finally feeling the pressure to sport an idealistic silhouette. It's all about the pursuit of perfection. The question is whether you view the idea as half-baked or a brilliant way to make up for your genetic flaws.

Now I believe that Lou Ferrigno acyually had implants if I remember correctly but he actually had them removed later. (calve Implants)

Anyway i hope this helps your brother some with his horror stories. Also dont get me wrong if you do not follow the proper protocols with syntho usage you can wind up in trouble as well. However, this is why you need to educate yourself before going into something blindly.


Mr.Huge
 
Many thanks TheRealBig A and MrHuge. Time to do the neccesary pre-study then. Then if he desides to try it I'll upload info along the way for those interested :-)
 
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