Swolecat/Animalbolic/Warrior Diets

[ProteinFiend]

I'll start with my question first just in case you don't want to hear about the diet.

With these diets (which are similar, if not based off one another) what do you eat on non-training days?

Also, how much cardio per week and when? Low intensity or high?

Now for the facts. These diets are based around the idea of eating just enough carbs to keep glycogen full and to eat them directly after training. During the day, you are supposed to eat as little as possible and eat only fat/protein (a TKD comes to mind...). The premise of these diets is to burn fat during the day, but at the same time preserve/grow muscle after workouts. Fat burning is based around timely insulin spikes ala just after your workout and none throughout the day as insulin stops lipolysis.

So if you only eat carbs after training, what do you eat on non-training days? A full keto diet? Or is there some kind of carb cycling?

 

[~SC~]

Sorry, but you have my program grouped with other programs that are nothing like what I offer. There are similarities, as with any diet, however there are many key differences that set it apart from the other's you mentioned. When you ask general questions like "what do you eat on off days, what is the cardio like", etc. you'll get many different answers from those on my program. No two people's OFF days are the same, nor are the cardio recommendations. Some are doing more cardio than others, some are eating in different manners, etc., and this is done through the consultation that I include. Some eat carbs on "off" days, some do not. I make that judgement based on the person, the goals, the progress and speed, etc. There is no ONE WAY with any of my programs, as there are w/these others you have erroneously grouped mine with.

So, please refrain from stating my program is "based" off one of the other two, as it is not. As well, I don't have ONE program, I have 3, so your calculations are off. If you've done any of my diets, you know they are very different. If you haven't, well, then you can't speak on it.

As well, your "FACTS" have nothing to do with my program, not quite sure where you are getting your information, but I am setting the record straight here. Ask Mr. X, he'll tell you my diets are nothing like either of the other two you mentioned. Key changes make key results.

~SC~

 

[Mr.X]

I'll start with my question first just in case you don't want to hear about the diet.

With these diets (which are similar, if not based off one another) what do you eat on non-training days?

Also, how much cardio per week and when? Low intensity or high?

Now for the facts. These diets are based around the idea of eating just enough carbs to keep glycogen full and to eat them directly after training. During the day, you are supposed to eat as little as possible and eat only fat/protein (a TKD comes to mind...). The premise of these diets is to burn fat during the day, but at the same time preserve/grow muscle after workouts. Fat burning is based around timely insulin spikes ala just after your workout and none throughout the day as insulin stops lipolysis.

So if you only eat carbs after training, what do you eat on non-training days? A full keto diet? Or is there some kind of carb cycling?

I don't think grouping any diets in a bundle is a great idea. Most people do not have a clear understanding what customized diets really do; thus, they imagine that just because they see a diet they can flabbergast themselves into believing they can find a match. However, that is completely FALSE, any customized diet has its’ advantages over ANY generic diet. Over the years, I’ve known a lot of SCs’ clients and they all speak of different regiments, and, personally, me being a dietician I know that most customized diets are DIFFERENT. It’s just NOT possible to make them the same, not even in lay-man conceptual terminology.

Mr.X

 

[rettoforever]

Mr. X is our future-- he is all professions in one-- he is truth in a world of lies!

(And I don't even know the guy!)

 

[ProteinFiend]

Mr. X and swolecat, sorry if I offended you two.

I never said YOURS (SC's) was based off their's, just that they are similar in theory.

And yes, a customized diet is better than a generic diet, though I think I have the knowledge of my body to customize a generic diet to my own liking.

I was just looking for some ideas about the "type" (used loosely) of diet...

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

i dont know much about swole cat's deiet, i thought it was one where u eat carbs after training... sounds good to me if u ask me

 

[~SC~]

Thanks Protein, no biggie, just wanted to speak about what I do just to differentiate myself and what I do from the older stuff.

BA, thanks it's great yes, but there is far more to it than carbs after training. That's not even 1/3 of the focus, and I have 3 programs, so that's not even a focus in two of them.

~SC~

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

Socrates.. do you have to be a qualified nutritionalist working in the field to be able to give great advice and help hundreds if not thousands of people via the internet, all who can probably show great results?
Most of the guys and girls here give gread advice but some are not nutritionalists by profession. I myself have a degree in computer science. Don't discount any knowledge but take with a pinch of salt (just watch the sodium )

 

[~SC~]

I must say that BA gives some really good advice as well, I've seen nutritionist WITH degress give shitty advice!!!! He knows his stuff.

Same w/trainers at commercial gyms who have their neat little certifications, but look like a 160 lb geek, and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to what REALLY works.

Far too many of these ass-clowns!

~SC~

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Actuallu, I AM in school to be a registered dietitian later, and I happen to think Mister X and SwoleCat are good bros, with alot of helpful knowledge.

PF, those diets mentioned are distinctly different. I don't see Swolegenics and The Warrior Diet being that similar, other than a great deal of focus on meal timing and content being based on factors that most people do not take into account when planning their diets. So, what they have in common is that they complex diets and require one to really think about what they are going to eat and when, but the dynamics of the two are very different.

 

[Mr.X]

Two things:

1) I have a degree in Biomechanics (MS)
2) I do teach other topics (PhD Accounting)

there you go....

Now, whoever is trying to throw sarcasm my way, wake up - it aint working.

P.S. it's NOT Mister X , it's Mr.X


Mr.X

 

[~SC~]

The teacher just taught someone how to shut his respective pie hole........

LOL.............beautiful!

~SC~

 

[DepressiveJuice]

SC, X why are you two bein so offensive? people are just trying to be helpful here. chill out

 

[~SC~]

DJ, u know nothing about the posts that attempted to make a mockery of Mr. X and they were deleted because of it.

You tell Mr. X that he should be made to look like a fool in his own diet forum, and tell me what he tells you! You've got no place to talk, as you've talked more shit about me than anyone here! So, you should be the one "chilling out".

All in the kool aid, and have no idea what the flavor is.

~SC~

 

[obiwan9962]

well now
lol
here is my two cents
i see no benefit in a diet where your primary meal and majority of cals come late in the evenings (warrior diet)
i am some what familiar with X's and SC' premise and see them as far more advanced than i in this field
i like to throw alittle common sense onto the fire rather than fuel

my background
i am a natral healer in mostly eastern and some western medicine
i was a med student
i studied a experimental science called psychonutrion where the thought was what you ate directely affected moods and personality
i have been a prediabetic hypoglycemic since i was 16
i am now 41 and seeing the years of abundance and laziness take its toll
i pointed out to myself i felt best when i was playing football rugby and volleyball in high school and college and was working out daily
i now workout 4 times a week compared to 0 last year and the previous 12
i am chef by trade and get to taste lots of great food but was on a lo cal lifestyle all my adult life but only once dipped below 200 ( i am 5'5)
i started atkins two months ago at 272 and 38% bodyfat
i was on it for 6 weeks and now have gone over to a ckd

day one: 272# 5'5 38% bf
today 10/14 246# 24% bf lost 2.5 inches around my waist
have not gained in my body dimensions but rather lost 5 inches around my shoulder 3 around my chest gained alittle around my thighs and calfs but that is where i always gain muscle
i did add an inch to my biceps
just got a bow flex lets see what that does
i was only working out 3 times a week before i easily added a fourth
i think i can easily go to 6 days a week doing a rapid fire 40 min work out
i thank all on this site for inspiration esp X, SC and BFA
karma for all

 

[obiwan9962]

PS
my goals are to look ripped
have a bf lower than 10%
generate some gh factors in this bod of mine
look and feel younger
i have a babyface lol already peeps think i am 30
but my body is kinda worned down
i work on my feet and for the last two years i have been having constant knee and ankle pain
barring artritis i would like to be painfree again
and man i would like a girl to look at me without apathy again
damn i had a cute butt in highschool and college
lol
nevermind!

 

[Burning_Inside]

PS
my goals are to look ripped
have a bf lower than 10%
generate some gh factors in this bod of mine
look and feel younger
i have a babyface lol already peeps think i am 30
but my body is kinda worned down
i work on my feet and for the last two years i have been having constant knee and ankle pain
barring artritis i would like to be painfree again
and man i would like a girl to look at me without apathy again
damn i had a cute butt in highschool and college
lol
nevermind!

You can get there, just beware if your fat loss stalls and you are already in a really low reduced calorie state, it may be a good time to switch over to bulking up for a month or 2, then diet again.

 

[~SC~]

9962, thanks very much for the Karma! You rock!

~SC~

 

[obiwan9962]

thanks all the same burning
i am happy with my bulk/girth
i would rather reduce
sorry i don't want to be massive
i want to be cut and ripped
hardbody if ya know what i mean
want muscles but i am happy with 15 inch biceps
though i doubt my thighs will be any smaller unless i acquire some sort of wasting disease (knock wood)
i use the info X and SC and BFA have supplied and used it to my ends
ty friend B_I

 

[~SC~]

Glad to have helped you out bruh!

~SC~

 

[New_Mass]

personally, me being a dietician I know that most customized diets are DIFFERENT. It’s just NOT possible to make them the same, not even in lay-man conceptual terminology.

Mr.X

this is the bottom line

 

[gregory]

Dieting is simple and in the end it's all mental. A calorie deficit is all that is required. as long as your protein and carbs and fats are in check you're all set. Time your carb intake somewhat and you'll get a feel for it. There is no magic. Law of thermal dynamics, calories in = calories out. PERIOD.....

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Basically, yes. When trying to lose weight, I see the main factor as calories in < calories out. Now, for those trying to get below 8% BF or something, I can't say. I would never venture that low because it just doesn't interest me.

As for overfeeding, you need to take more into account meal timing and macronutrient combinations. It becomes more than just calories in > calories out at that point.

 

[~SC~]

Law of thermal dynamics, calories in = calories out. PERIOD.....

Not really.

Eat 2500 kcals from Burger King for a 2 week period.

Then eat those same kcals in the form of CLEAN NUTRITION for a 2 week period.

You tell me which 2500 kcals serve to give you a better physique. People are so hung up on Kcals in/Kcals out, and wonder why they never change.

It's VERY key, at least by those in the know.

~SC~

 

[gregory]

Not really.

Eat 2500 kcals from Burger King for a 2 week period.

Then eat those same kcals in the form of CLEAN NUTRITION for a 2 week period.

You tell me which 2500 kcals serve to give you a better physique. People are so hung up on Kcals in/Kcals out, and wonder why they never change.

It's VERY key, at least by those in the know.

~SC~

Look i'm not against your methods. And you picled only a part of my post. I said that a diet with a resonable setup bodybuilding wise will work as long as the calories are in check. And i can turn this around on you and say that a clean diet of 7000 cals per day is better for cutting then a 2500 cal diet that's semi clean. Ofcourse it's not, Calories are in fact what matter in the end. Micro and macro nutirent breakdown is very important, i never denied that, but in the end it's the calories, but not ONLY the calories but calories none the less.

 

[~SC~]

Look i'm not against your methods. And you picled only a part of my post. I said that a diet with a resonable setup bodybuilding wise will work as long as the calories are in check. And i can turn this around on you and say that a clean diet of 7000 cals per day is better for cutting then a 2500 cal diet that's semi clean. Ofcourse it's not, Calories are in fact what matter in the end. Micro and macro nutirent breakdown is very important, i never denied that, but in the end it's the calories, but not ONLY the calories but calories none the less.

All good, believe me, I'm not attempting to begin a huge debate about this, as I see entirely no point. I'm confident in what I know to work, and work very well, and was just sharing a bit of insight as to how many (not singling you out) make the mistake of focusing on counting Kcals, because it's far more advanced than that. (If one wishes to take his/her physique to the next level)

One very simplistic example: The inclusion or exclusion of healthy fats and/or carbs at appropriate times do make a difference, and do decide if it's just "weight" that is lost, or actual fat that is lost. The body can understand messages that you send, so it's imperative to send the correct message to achieve the body you desire.

Peace!

~SC~

 

[gregory]

All good, believe me, I'm not attempting to begin a huge debate about this, as I see entirely no point. I'm confident in what I know to work, and work very well, and was just sharing a bit of insight as to how many (not singling you out) make the mistake of focusing on counting Kcals, because it's far more advanced than that. (If one wishes to take his/her physique to the next level)

One very simplistic example: The inclusion or exclusion of healthy fats and/or carbs at appropriate times do make a difference, and do decide if it's just "weight" that is lost, or actual fat that is lost. The body can understand messages that you send, so it's imperative to send the correct message to achieve the body you desire.

Peace!

~SC~

You're correct in what you say, that's for sure. All is good bro i know you're good and a lot of peeps used your methods and were very sucessful.

Peace.


BTW: are you Polish?

 

[~SC~]

You're correct in what you say, that's for sure. All is good bro i know you're good and a lot of peeps used your methods and were very sucessful.

Peace.


BTW: are you Polish?

Yes, I am Polish!!

Hey, no Pole-Jokes now!!!!! LOL!!!!!

Just kiddin', hell, I've probably heard them all, and told even more myself!

~SC~