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Sweat Smelling Like Ammonia?
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blaster220
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You are experiencing protein to glucose conversion, of which ammonia is a by-product. You may be burning a little bit of muscle during that morning cardio!
Bulldog_10
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Punt said:
You're not in ketosis are you? If not, might be due to high protein intake...doubful though, cuz your body would get rid of that via the urine.
probably I'm wrong on but I notice it when I have been training for too long in a workout.
I talked with a doctor once concerning it and she said something about a specific type of bacteria or something that you can control via either probiotics or something else like that.
I only ever get it if I train say over the 1.5/2 hour mark in one session.
I talked with a doctor once concerning it and she said something about a specific type of bacteria or something that you can control via either probiotics or something else like that.
I only ever get it if I train say over the 1.5/2 hour mark in one session.
TommyGunns
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(post #4)
"That odor is most probably a by-product of protein breakdown. The most
likely candidate is methylmercaptan, which is produced by the breakdown
of the amino-acid methionine. Basically, it's telling you that your body
is scavenging protein. That odor is most probably a by-product of
protein breakdown. The most
likely candidate is methylmercaptan, which is produced by the breakdown
of the amino-acid methionine. Basically, it's telling you that your body
is scavenging protein. "
Dr. John Hussman
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"The body does not excrete elemental
nitrogen, and when amino acids are deaminated and broken down the byproduct
is NH3 (ammonia). Ammonia is toxic to the body, and so it is converted
to urea, which is not. This has the further advantage that for each urea
molecule excreted two nitrogen atoms are excreted (it takes two ammonia
plus one oxygen plus one carbon to make a urea molecule).
Protein intake will affect urea output as well. As protein intake increases
the amount of protein that is used for energy increases as well. In order
to burn protein for energy, though, it is necessary to deaminate it
first. Thus, increased protein intake will result in increased urea
production.
Because ammonia is a byproduct of protein metabolism (the amine (NH2) group is
removed when proteins are broken down via the TCA cycle). It's not kept in
the body as ammonia (NH3), though, because ammonia is toxic to tissues.
Instead, it's stored as urea ((NH2)2CO), which is found in urine and sweat.
Upon contact with air, urea will break down, forming ammonia. That's where
the smell comes from".
"That odor is most probably a by-product of protein breakdown. The most
likely candidate is methylmercaptan, which is produced by the breakdown
of the amino-acid methionine. Basically, it's telling you that your body
is scavenging protein. That odor is most probably a by-product of
protein breakdown. The most
likely candidate is methylmercaptan, which is produced by the breakdown
of the amino-acid methionine. Basically, it's telling you that your body
is scavenging protein. "
Dr. John Hussman
---------------------------------------------
"The body does not excrete elemental
nitrogen, and when amino acids are deaminated and broken down the byproduct
is NH3 (ammonia). Ammonia is toxic to the body, and so it is converted
to urea, which is not. This has the further advantage that for each urea
molecule excreted two nitrogen atoms are excreted (it takes two ammonia
plus one oxygen plus one carbon to make a urea molecule).
Protein intake will affect urea output as well. As protein intake increases
the amount of protein that is used for energy increases as well. In order
to burn protein for energy, though, it is necessary to deaminate it
first. Thus, increased protein intake will result in increased urea
production.
Because ammonia is a byproduct of protein metabolism (the amine (NH2) group is
removed when proteins are broken down via the TCA cycle). It's not kept in
the body as ammonia (NH3), though, because ammonia is toxic to tissues.
Instead, it's stored as urea ((NH2)2CO), which is found in urine and sweat.
Upon contact with air, urea will break down, forming ammonia. That's where
the smell comes from".
Stangfriik
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Punt said:
Drink a protein shake. There was a study posted by Nandi12 over at CuttingEdgeMuscle which showed patients maintaining and even gaining some muscle mass when they consumed protein before cardio. The ones that did cardio on an empty stomach, lost muscle mass.
Stangfriik
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Here's the abstract thanks to Nandi12. I know this is abotu rats but there's a whole thread on the discussion over at CEM.
http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244&highlight=cardio
Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2002 Sep;283(3):E565-72
A preexercise alpha-lactalbumin-enriched whey protein meal preserves lipid oxidation and decreases adiposity in rats.
Bouthegourd JC, Roseau SM, Makarios-Lahham L, Leruyet PM, Tome DG, Even PC.
Unite Mixte de recherche de Physiologie de la Nutrition et du comportement alimentaire, Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, Institut National Agronomique Paris-Grignon, F75231 Paris, France.
The composition of the preexercise food intake is known to affect substrate utilization during exercise and thus can affect long-term changes in body weight and composition. These parameters were measured in male rats exercised 2 h daily over 5 wk, either in the fasting state or 1 h after they ingested a meal enriched with glucose (Glc), whole milk protein (WMP), or alpha-lactalbumin-enriched whey protein (CPalphaL). Compared with fasting, the Glc meal increased glucose oxidation and decreased lipid oxidation during and after exercise. In contrast, the WMP and CPalphaL meals preserved lipid oxidation and increased protein oxidation, the CPalphaL meal increasing protein oxidation more than the WMP meal. At the end of the study, body weight was larger in the WMP-, Glc-, and CPalphaL-fed rats than in the fasted ones. This resulted from an increased fat mass in the WMP and Glc rats and to an increased lean body mass, particularly muscles, in the CPalphaL rats. We conclude that the potential of the CPalphaL meal to preserve lipid oxidation and to rapidly deliver amino acids for use during exercise improved the efficiency of exercise training to decrease adiposity.
http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244&highlight=cardio
Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2002 Sep;283(3):E565-72
A preexercise alpha-lactalbumin-enriched whey protein meal preserves lipid oxidation and decreases adiposity in rats.
Bouthegourd JC, Roseau SM, Makarios-Lahham L, Leruyet PM, Tome DG, Even PC.
Unite Mixte de recherche de Physiologie de la Nutrition et du comportement alimentaire, Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, Institut National Agronomique Paris-Grignon, F75231 Paris, France.
The composition of the preexercise food intake is known to affect substrate utilization during exercise and thus can affect long-term changes in body weight and composition. These parameters were measured in male rats exercised 2 h daily over 5 wk, either in the fasting state or 1 h after they ingested a meal enriched with glucose (Glc), whole milk protein (WMP), or alpha-lactalbumin-enriched whey protein (CPalphaL). Compared with fasting, the Glc meal increased glucose oxidation and decreased lipid oxidation during and after exercise. In contrast, the WMP and CPalphaL meals preserved lipid oxidation and increased protein oxidation, the CPalphaL meal increasing protein oxidation more than the WMP meal. At the end of the study, body weight was larger in the WMP-, Glc-, and CPalphaL-fed rats than in the fasted ones. This resulted from an increased fat mass in the WMP and Glc rats and to an increased lean body mass, particularly muscles, in the CPalphaL rats. We conclude that the potential of the CPalphaL meal to preserve lipid oxidation and to rapidly deliver amino acids for use during exercise improved the efficiency of exercise training to decrease adiposity.
Punt said:
Citruscide had some (interesting) thoughts on morning cardio.
http://milossarcev.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Health;action=display;num=1039333879
MrMakaveli
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Andy13 said:
Haha
pajaro loco
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SO, THEN YOU BURN PROTEIN TOO ON EMPTY STOMACH CARDIO??? GEE 
