sustanon

[mish12345]

is it that case that not everyone can make gains on a particular steroid?

im now half way through my 5th week on 500mg sust/week, my first cycle. i know that its definately legit, but im still waiting for things to start happening. a lot seem to think i should have had big gains by now.

all that has happened has been weight gain, however its now gone down.. ?!?!

started @ 82.2kg

a week ago I was 87.5kg

today I am 85.8kg

can anyone shed any light...?

 

[AZMUSCLE]

What does your diet look like? If you are sure it is 100% legit you SHOULD be gaining weight and getting alot stronger, the prop thats in sustanon is fast acting so by week 5 I would double check your shit. But again, your diet might be the reason why you're not getting the results you are looking for, protein makes you grow, NOT drugs.

 

[mish12345]

yeah everyone suggests the diet but thats the least of my problems - its pretty much perfect. put it together with a bodybuilder and I stick to it 100%.

well it looks exactly like it should (organon sust), and the guy I got it off says him and his mates gained fine off it - he reckons I should just wait a little longer.

you think it maybe all hit me in a week or so? getting very very frustrated..

 

[GUARDIAN]

If it so perfect lay it out for us so we can see what u r talking about? What is your strength in the gym like now?

 

[mish12345]

well you guys may criticise it a bit, but when I said perfect I was just trying to convey the fact its really not my diet thats the issue.

meal 1: 100g oats, 1 tin tune, 20g whey, 1 apple, 2g fish oils
meal2: 150g w/wheat pasta, 200g chicken breast, fibrous veg, 10ml flax oil
meal 3: 100g basmatic rice, 180-200g steak, fibrous veg, 5ml flax oil
TRAIN - PWO SHAKE: 40g whey, 80g malto, 50g dextrose, 5g leucine
meal 4: 125g basmati rice, 3 whole eggs, 100g chicken breast
meal 5: 1 tin mackerel, 3 oatcakes, 20g whey
meal 6: 200g cottage cheese, 5g fish oils, casien shake before bed

I just cant understand how my weight has gone down.

Strength really hasn't changed much, I have certainly increased but only by a few reps and small weights. nothing drastic at all. do you think the next week and a half or so could see some magic happen?!

 

[GUARDIAN]

it is the training, diet, or gear mate.

If u r not gaining weight up the cals by another 500-750cals ed.

The strength bothers me as well which should be going up much even if if u r not gaining a ton of weight. Which would lead me to the gear and/or training. But since u believe the gear to be good that leaves the training bro. I am just trying to help, not tear ya down.

 

[mish12345]

it couldn't be the case that I just dont react well to sustanon?

the training is also fine so baffled what the problem is. guess all it can be down to is it being fake. is it rare for fakes to 'look' exactly like legit stuff - as regards amps and boxes?

 

[jumpmaster82]

as far as the weight goes, maybe consider adding more cals, like 500-1000 more a day. and maybe up the protein as well.
but on week 5 of sust strength gains should be through the roof. are you injecting twice a week or EOD. if your not already you should switch to EOD to take full advantage of the test prop.

 

[needtogetaas]

sounds like bunk to me.

 

[georgie24]

is it that case that not everyone can make gains on a particular steroid?

im now half way through my 5th week on 500mg Sustanon/week, my first cycle. i know that its definately legit, but im still waiting for things to start happening. a lot seem to think i should have had big gains by now.

all that has happened has been weight gain, however its now gone down.. ?!?!

started @ 82.2kg

a week ago I was 87.5kg

today I am 85.8kg

can anyone shed any light...?

NOTICABLE body changes will apear @ week 6-7

if you wanted " instant gains" why didnt you kick start it with dbol or drol?

 

[mish12345]

I dont want 'instant gains', but I had expected some to have come when half way through the cycle!

needto have you come across bunk organon sust before that looks like it should?

jumpmaster I'm injecting 2x per week. yeah everyone seems to think my strength should be up a lot, but I'm still waiting for it to happen! have you known of people not see stength/size gains until as late as week 6 for example?

 

[eddie2425]

You need to inject 3X a week. Sounds like the gears bad..but you say you know it's not..?

 

[perryscoon]

Something aint right. Even if your diet was mcdonalds and beer 3 times a day you should have very noticable size and strength gains by now. Your gear is bad/underdosed/fake/or something imho.

 

[mish12345]

have you ever come across organon sust that looks 100% legit but just... doesnt work?

 

[Acela]

i'm gonna play devils advocate here....

unless i did my conversion wrong (which i derived from a google search) he is still

net positive 7.9lbs in 5 weeks, correct? i understand that he was a lil' heavier a week ago, but that slight (3.5 lbs i think) deviation in weight could be water weight. i've seen some carb sensitive peeps yo-yo 10 lbs in a weekend before. IMO, practically an 8 lb gain in 5 weeks is good. were there any different variables when you weighed your self (morning vs. nigh-time that kind of shit)?

someone please let me know if my conversion was right. if it wasn't i apologize

 

[mish12345]

yeah thats one way I've looked at it - I cant see the weight gain being possible without the gear. so something must be working! just doesn't seem to be working like it does for all you guys unfortunately.

no really important factors each time I've weighed myself, but I agree the fluctuation could be due to a number of reasons.

the confusion I'm having is that most people are telling me its fake because I'm half way through week 5 and havent had strength and size gains (although have gained weight, I dont look much noticably bigger. I think just more dense. No one has mentioned I look bigger) but the weight I've gained doesnt make sense if its bunk.

Since I'm having no sides or anything I'm obviously going to keep on with it, but if things haven't happened by the end of week 6 I'll have pretty much given up hope..

 

[ALIN]

is it that case that not everyone can make gains on a particular steroid?

im now half way through my 5th week on 500mg Sustanon/week, my first cycle. i know that its definately legit, but im still waiting for things to start happening. a lot seem to think i should have had big gains by now.

all that has happened has been weight gain, however its now gone down.. ?!?!

started @ 82.2kg

a week ago I was 87.5kg

today I am 85.8kg

can anyone shed any light...?

are your sure your eating enough and training correctly for your needs?

 

[alexl2]

I bet you its underdosed.

 

[rudy76]

If it's real you'll know it - strength and / or pumps should hit like a cement truck.

Is this your first cycle and what is your BF%.

If you have a high BF% you could lose fat and not be gaining muscle as quickly as your losing the fat.

 

[chris69]

If it so perfect lay it out for us so we can see what u r talking about? What is your strength in the gym like now?

i gained 18lbs, then nothing for 3 wks, noticed my diet was getting away from me, starting eating like a horse again last week(clean though0 went up another 8 lbs, then back down today 5 lbs..So it is diet bro, and Water at first. if the gear is good, and diet is good..you will grow !..It's not a magic bean though !

 

[PhillyPA#1]

I gained 12 pounds in first 2.5 weeks of sust. all water obviously but weight none the less. Sex drive sky rocketed, mood elevated. etc etc. Could be fake. Your first cycle you should get great results. esp after a month + of use.

 

[mish12345]

If it's real you'll know it - strength and / or pumps should hit like a cement truck.

Is this your first cycle and what is your BF%.

If you have a high BF% you could lose fat and not be gaining muscle as quickly as your losing the fat.

well I've had nothing hit me as yet. what confuses me is that the packaging of the amps and boxes looks completely legit. does this happen much - fake gear in real packaging?

not sure of bf but it is naturally low, definately under 15% at the moment

 

[mish12345]

these are the pics of the sust I'm using - if you guys could give a judgement on its legitimacy it would be much appreciated.

Organon, Karachi, Sustanon 250

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image012bh4.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015yy6.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image019hv3.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image021ql9.jpg

only thing is.. if its real.. why isnt it working...!

 

[chris69]

these are the pics of the Sustanon I'm using - if you guys could give a judgement on its legitimacy it would be much appreciated.

Organon, Karachi, Sustanon 250

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image012bh4.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015yy6.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image019hv3.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image021ql9.jpg

only thing is.. if its real.. why isnt it working...!

I have seen these, however, if conterfiters wernt good, they wouldnt be in business.maybe somone else has experiance w/ using this Brand..My organon was a dompletely diff vial..but like i said, i have seen thoughs, id say your good bro !

 

[Acela]

these are the pics of the Sustanon I'm using - if you guys could give a judgement on its legitimacy it would be much appreciated.

Organon, Karachi, Sustanon 250

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image012bh4.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015yy6.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image019hv3.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image021ql9.jpg

only thing is.. if its real.. why isnt it working...!

i am using the same exact su.st amps....i have 1 left and i will check the batch #'s etc and post up. i did a tes.tE cycle (i am positive that that was legit gear) and wound up getting 4 amps of this stuff from someone else to finish up. i realize its an odd way to finish a cycle but i had delays with p'c't stuff....stuff seems legit to me

 

[AZMUSCLE]

They "look" real but after reading this entire thread, I don't think they are. Unfortunately fakes LOOK so real this day and age nobody can be for sure their shits real unless you:

a) get it tested by a legitimate lab which is NOT cheap or easy to do, or
b) make your own shit and you KNOW whats in it. I don't know about sustanon but tren and prop are extremely easy to make if you just do some browsing online-test is test is test and tren does just about everything one needs

 

[perryscoon]

They "look" real but after reading this entire thread, I don't think they are. Unfortunately fakes LOOK so real this day and age nobody can be for sure their shits real unless you:

a) get it tested by a legitimate lab which is NOT cheap or easy to do, or
b) make your own shit and you KNOW whats in it. I don't know about sustanon but trenbolone and testosterone propionate are extremely easy to make if you just do some browsing online-test is test is test and trenbolone does just about everything one needs

I agree. Test-p and Tren are about you really need, ever. The nice thing about these 2 drugs is that you can cut or bulk on them.

I have been wanting to try making my own for a while now, just wasn't able to find kits the last time I checked.

 

[mish12345]

seeing as I'm having no negative sides do you think I should just hold out for a couple weeks longer and see what happens? no reason not to I guess

 

[rudy76]

seeing as I'm having no negative sides do you think I should just hold out for a couple weeks longer and see what happens? no reason not to I guess

Stick with it, lift as hard as you can, keep your diet clean and pin 2/3 rd's a cc every m,w,f

 

[Acela]

these are the pics of the Sustanon I'm using - if you guys could give a judgement on its legitimacy it would be much appreciated.

Organon, Karachi, Sustanon 250

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image012bh4.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015yy6.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image019hv3.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image021ql9.jpg

only thing is.. if its real.. why isnt it working...!

my amp has the following:
BN440859XV
EXP9/2011

i THINK these are real

 

[mish12345]

might are the same layout, just obviously different batch numbers

 

[AZMUSCLE]

I know it's not 100% accurate but taste it. I've done hundreds of diff. kinds of test and real test always tastes bitter. It should definately NOT just taste like plain oil. Another thing you might try is loading 1 cc up and sticking it in the freezer overnight. Oil will not freeze so u won't ruin your shit but if there is REAL test in it, you should see separation(the oil and test crystals will separate). Hope this helps bro.

 

[chris69]

I know it's not 100% accurate but taste it. I've done hundreds of diff. kinds of test and real test always tastes bitter. It should definately NOT just taste like plain oil. Another thing you might try is loading 1 cc up and sticking it in the freezer overnight. Oil will not freeze so u won't ruin your shit but if there is REAL test in it, you should see separation(the oil and test crystals will separate). Hope this helps bro.

I really think your good bro..Dont look into it so much..keep running it and stay on top of diet ect...A couple of my bro's called me and said they wernt gaining off my shit...Well i know for a fact the beer/MC Donalds, and TV isnt going to do shit for them...you can take as much gear as you want, and if everything isnt in check...Your wasting your money...That wasnt dirrected twards you, just settin some fact.

 

[motiondo]

Mish12345...

I'm enjoying this thread bro...cause we're in (similar circumstances...) I'm on a first cycle...doing Sustanon...and wondering about the strength of my gear too...
I think we have slightly different situations...
I'm pinning EOD .5ML / but I'm just finishing my second week...I have got a pretty clean and rigid diet, and working 1 bp/per training scession - High intensity / two days/week rest. I have had an increase in libido, and some - minimal extra motivation when working out...It's kinda hard to seperate my "Normal" drive/motivation, from what I anticipate the Sus is supposed to give or provide...I have had a 10LB weight increase...and I can tell some of it is water...But I have a high degree of hope...this stuff is going to kick into high gear..(PUN intended...)
I took things a step furrther though...I received gear from four different sources...In case, one after 2-3 weeks didn't seem to be doing anything...I would switch, (maybe luck up on something of a stronger - dosage...) I guess I'm as anxious to hear how things progress for you now...as equally as I am trying to hold my patience...Keep us posted, I for one would like to know how this turns out for ya...

 

[mish12345]

thanks for the help guys.

chris69 you've raised my confidence a bit, think im thinking about it too much. my diet is spot on though so had expected things by now but we'll see.

I'll keep you posted, looking forward to see how the next ten days pans out. hopefully the magic will happen lol. good luck with yours motiondo, will keep you posted..