Sustanon vs. Enanthate?

[Aikido]

I tried cyp and sust so far. My next cycle will have eth. in it. If I had to choose between the cyp and the sust, I would go with the single ester.....cyp.

I didn't get any acne with sust but I did with cyp. Go figure??? I hear a lot of other bros are using single ester more than multi compounds but it's a matter of choice. My first cycle used dbol and sust and I was so excited. I got better results of cyp and fina. I could have been to cautious too.......I only did 250mg twice a week of sust but I now know that my body reacts better to 600mgs a week of test.

 

[WannaBPowerful]

Most of you guys on here agree that Enanthate is superior, however the facts dont support that theory. The drug profiles state that Sustanon is a mixture of four different testosterones which, based on the well-timed composition, have a synergetic effect. This special feature has two positive characteris-tics for the athlete. First, based on the special combination effect of the compounds, Sustanon, milligram for milligram, has a better effect than Testosterone enanthate cypionate, and propionate alone. Second, the effect of the four testosterones is time-released so that Sustanon goes rapidly into the system and remains effective in the body for several weeks. Due to the propionate also included in the steroid, Sustanon is effective after one day and, based on the mixed in decanoates, remains active for 3-4 weeks.

It also states that Testosterone enanthate has a plasma half-life time in the blood of only one week. The, rapid and strong weight gain is combined with distinct water reten-tion since a retention of electrolytes and water occurs.

Only good thing i read about Enanthate is that it is that In bodybuilding, however, it is THE "mass building steroid." No matter what you think of Dianabol, Parabolan, Anadrol 50, FinaJect, and others, when it comes to strength, muscle mass, and rapid weight gains, testosterone is still the "King of the Road." However, ,most can get mas-sive and strong with Testosterone enanthate. However, only very few are able to retain their size after discontinuing the compound. This is also one of the reasons why really good bodybuilders, powerlifters, weightlighters, and others take the "stuff " all year long.

From what i understand Enanthate is needed to be takin in higher dosages than sust, and it more likley to cause accelerated hair loss and gynocomastia.

So, how is this the choice of so many over sust?

 

[Racer-X99]

Most of you guys on here agree that Enanthate is superior, however the facts dont support that theory. The drug profiles state that Sustanon is a mixture of four different testosterones which, based on the well-timed composition, have a synergetic effect. This special feature has two positive characteris-tics for the athlete. First, based on the special combination effect of the compounds, Sustanon, milligram for milligram, has a better effect than Testosterone enanthate cypionate, and propionate alone. Second, the effect of the four testosterones is time-released so that Sustanon goes rapidly into the system and remains effective in the body for several weeks. Due to the propionate also included in the steroid, Sustanon is effective after one day and, based on the mixed in decanoates, remains active for 3-4 weeks.

It also states that Testosterone enanthate has a plasma half-life time in the blood of only one week. The, rapid and strong weight gain is combined with distinct water reten-tion since a retention of electrolytes and water occurs.

Only good thing i read about Enanthate is that it is that In bodybuilding, however, it is THE "mass building steroid." No matter what you think of Dianabol, Parabolan, Anadrol 50, FinaJect, and others, when it comes to strength, muscle mass, and rapid weight gains, testosterone is still the "King of the Road." However, ,most can get mas-sive and strong with Testosterone enanthate. However, only very few are able to retain their size after discontinuing the compound. This is also one of the reasons why really good bodybuilders, powerlifters, weightlighters, and others take the "stuff " all year long.

From what i understand Enanthate is needed to be takin in higher dosages than sust, and it more likley to cause accelerated hair loss and gynocomastia.

So, how is this the choice of so many over sust?

Dude, you are getting those profiles that are out-dated. If you do the research about sustanon, they say you need to run an amp of sust EOD to get the best results from the different tests. You can mix six compounds of test and doesn't mean it will be better. The proof is in the results and many people favor enanth and cyp. The piece about losing/retaining size is total bs. If you eat right, train like a freak and build solid muscle and you are not beyond your genetic max, you will keep most of the muscle. You will lose the excess water weight with everything. That is what you drop fast. You normally don't lose 10lbs. of muscle in a week.

All tests can cause hair loss and gyno it is the risk with the game. You also risk potential prostate cancer, permanent problems with natural test production, infections from injections and bad gear, etc. It is not a healthy hobby.

If you really want to do sust then do it. The board is trying to help you make an educated decision based on experience and prior research.

 

[WannaBPowerful]

I know everyone is tryin to help. If i was bein stubborn i wouldnt have posted that info to be critiqued, i woulda just drawn my own conclusion. Only way to learn what works is by hittin all the details i can and learning as much about the kinds of gear that i can. I greatly appreciate all the help, and im learning more and more each day. Sorry if i sounded like i was disagreeing, i just copied and pasted stuff and asked questions about it.

 

[WannaBPowerful]

Also, where can i find updated drug profiles?

 

[nuh_mizer]

Dude, you are getting those profiles that are out-dated. If you do the research about sustanon, they say you need to run an amp of sust EOD to get the best results from the different tests.

Finally someone agrees with me.

I copied this:

Sustanon was developed for the primary reason of hormone replacement, and because of the mix of esters most patients only needed one shot a month to keep their hormone levels balanced. Because of this design, the bodybuilder will not recieve proper
doseages at once or twice a week injections. Your blood levels will fluctuate up and down continually, which is not what you want while on a cycle. You want stable levels to give your body the best chance it can have to build plenty of muscle.

All test is the same, but once only the ester is removed. People that say test is test are wrong unless you are assuming that the ester has already been removed. I have had plenty
of different results fromt the different tests I have used, as well as I am sure you have too. The secret to making sus work correctly, is timing the esters so the blood levels do not fluctuate.

I will assume that everyone knows how an ester works and why one is added to the parent testosterone. With sustanon, you have 4 esters:30mg of prop60mg of phenylprop60mg of
isocaproate100mg of deconateCombined to give you 250mg. Now everyone knows for themselves how much test they should take due to previous cycles or no cycles at all. Lets take each
ester and see how long they will stay active in the body. 30mg of prop--Prop needs to be injected at least every other day to get the full benifits of the test. I think every third day is a little too long to wait, although some people may disagree. Now lets say
you are doing a prop only cycle and injecting 30mg twice a week. You can see already that is a waste of gear. If you inject 30mg of prop twice a week you are totally wasting your time. You will NOT grow off of this, so you can basically take sus and knock it down to 220mg an amp if you are injecting once or twice a week. 60 mg of phenylprop--Phenylprop is not that much different than prop. You can get away with injecting the phenylprop ester every third day. Anyone that has taken nandrolone with a phenylprop ester knows that it is shorter acting and must be injected twice a week (for example, getwoods powder). If injected twice a week, then lets even cushion the amount, you will have all 120 mg in one
week.

 

[MoreBeefPlease]

enanthate is more constant

 

[Racer-X99]

Also, where can i find updated drug profiles?

Please understand that when you are going to inject something into your body it is good to do all the research you can and then make the best decision. Take everything in like a grain of salt.

This is one of the better sites I have seen. There are others, but I can't look for them now.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm

 

[DownUnder23]

CYP

 

[robsatx]

What kind of sides?

I like Enanthate over sus but seem to have more sides on Enanthate .

Please elaborate . . .
thanks Pit!