sustanon only for first cycle some questions

[milu5]

My friend is 5ft 9, 10 stone / 145lb, and 21 years old. He has chosen to do 500mg of zafa testanon pw for 10 or 12 weeks one of the two. Followed by clomid 3 weeks after the last injection.

is 500mg pw to much for these stats I personally think it is but thought id get some opinions from more experienced people on here. My argument is basically he may be able to get great gains off 250 pw from say week 3 onwards plus there the cost factor as well and the fact hes never done steroids before.

is 500mg safe for those stats above or to much? He's also a qualified chef so his diet will be spot on.

 

[hydez27]

At 145 lbs aas should not be a thought, he needs to get his training and diet dialled in before anything


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[milu5]

Thats not really an option hes doing the test regardless of whether he needs it. So on that basis is it to much?

 

[DiamondCutCows]

At 145 lbs aas should not be a thought, he needs to get his training and diet dialled in before anything

Cosigned, DCC.

That man weighs 145lbs...rice, potatoes, pasta...his new girlfriends. Cheat on them with chicken and steak. Come back when you're sick of all of them

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[EZ_E]

Cosigned, DCC.

That man weighs 145lbs...rice, potatoes, pasta...his new girlfriends. Cheat on them with chicken and steak. Come back when you're sick of all of them

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Post of the year ^^^

Yes it's too much, .000000001 mg is too much if he doesn't know how to eat...

~EZ

 

[milu5]

Hes a cook.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ at 5 9 i would guestimate without letting his body fat get over 15% he should weigh around 170 minimum before even thinking about juicing. and 170 is very very conservative.

does he even work out? 145 at that height tells me he does not workout and/or just isn't eating enough. he needs to give it a couple years and really commit himself before juicing. thats the best advice you are gonna get.

 

[Iron Warrior707]

Looks like this not about your friend , just by the way you wrote that question i could tell its for yourself.. 5'9 145 is skin and bones, i dont care if your bf is 2%, you are too skinny, get that weight to 200lb natural then think about juice.. If you are a qulity chef you wouldn't weigh 145.. Its funny that no one noticed that this Q is for himself and not his friend.. lolz

 

[joeblow12345]

Regardless of who your inquiring about 145 is a walking skeleton. Someone this small is a beginner with no concept of how to train or eat. Steroids are the last thing they need to worry about for christ sake eat a fn steak and hit the gym.
Learn the basics of weight training and eating. That alone should get you to 170. Of course they wont listen because they have lifted for a week straight,and taken their natural potential to the max. Now its time to juice.

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[milu5]

ok it is for a friend. Seriously theres no point talking in the third person on a forum where noone knows me or even knows what i look like. Also no-one has answered my first question.

 

[joeblow12345]

ok it is for a friend. Seriously theres no point talking in the third person on a forum where noone knows me or even knows what i look like. Also no-one has answered my first question.

For your original question 500 mg a week is fine for a beginner 250 will work also. I dont go below 500 for test. And tell your friend to get his shit together first then juice. He is in no position to live on the darkside. Steroids are powerful hormones that can be dangerous in the hands of an amateur.

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[Svenman19]

I'm 5'9 and weigh 175 natural and I'm not starting my first cycle until I'm 180. I imagine I'll keep better gains with a more solid base

 

[joeblow12345]

I'm 5'9 and weigh 175 natural and I'm not starting my first cycle until I'm 180. I imagine I'll keep better gains with a more solid base

Your weight is not the most important factor and has no relevance on how well your cycle will go. The reason people suggest getting to a certain weight is because if you cant gain on your own than you dont need steroids. There is a lot of knowledge to be gained going from 160-200 through training and eating properly. Anyone can eat donuts abd crap and gain 20 lbs, but to gain 20 quality lbs it takes alot of work. If your not willing to put forth the effort than you definitely dont need juice. Also steroids work better on trained people who know how to eat and lift.



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[Deleted member 33117]

500mg of test a week is a great first cycle, however as others have said, if eating enough and training hard enough to get above 145 lbs has been an issue for you, it is unlikely that gear will yield much better results or that the gains you make will be kept.

 

[milu5]

Ye i know what all you guys are saying I said something very similar. But you know what kids are like today they don't fucking listen. Although sometimes its the only way they learn. Cheers for the advice ill pass it along.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

Ye i know what all you guys are saying I said something very similar. But you know what kids are like today they don't fucking listen. Although sometimes its the only way they learn. Cheers for the advice ill pass it along.

Why don't you share this thread with him?