Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've already logged my cycle and stats and everything on an earlier thread...was just wondering when you guys think I should see noticeable results and or sides from this cycle. I have broken out with considerable acne on my stomach and chest but nowhere else. My libido does seem to be up a bit and I feel a little tighter and fuller. Assuming workouts and diet are on point, when should I start to really see a nice transformation with these two compounds. I just bumped the sust up to 750mgs wk from 600 and the tren e up to 350 mgs wk frm 300. Just finished week three of cycle. What do you guys think?
Sustanon and tren e
- Thread starter phenom16
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Diet: meal 1: 40 grms whey or humapro protein shake 1 lipo6 black fatburner
Meal 2 (1.5 hrs later)- 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 2 pieces marble rye toast, 1 slice cheese 2 need2slins, 3 hcgenerate, 2 super enzymes
Meal 3 (2.5 hrs later)- 8 oz turkey breast on pumpernickel, berries or banana, 3 eponox, serving of n2guard lowest yogurt 2 super enzymes
Meal 4 (2.5 hrs later)- 10 oz chicken or steak with wholewheat tortilla and cup or two brown rice and lowfat shredded cheese 2 super enzymes
Prewrkout (1.5 hrs later)- 30-35 grms whey or humapro protein shake with lipo6 black fatburner 45 mins later prewrkout drink ex. Vpx anarchy covalex or no explode
Postwrkout- 45 grms protein with creatine and 35 grms dextrose
Next meal ( bout 1.5 hrs later)- steak tips and rice with green beans need2slin, hcgenerate 2 super enzymes
2.5 hrs later- 30 grms casein shake with eponox 1 hr later 3 zma
Meal 2 (1.5 hrs later)- 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 2 pieces marble rye toast, 1 slice cheese 2 need2slins, 3 hcgenerate, 2 super enzymes
Meal 3 (2.5 hrs later)- 8 oz turkey breast on pumpernickel, berries or banana, 3 eponox, serving of n2guard lowest yogurt 2 super enzymes
Meal 4 (2.5 hrs later)- 10 oz chicken or steak with wholewheat tortilla and cup or two brown rice and lowfat shredded cheese 2 super enzymes
Prewrkout (1.5 hrs later)- 30-35 grms whey or humapro protein shake with lipo6 black fatburner 45 mins later prewrkout drink ex. Vpx anarchy covalex or no explode
Postwrkout- 45 grms protein with creatine and 35 grms dextrose
Next meal ( bout 1.5 hrs later)- steak tips and rice with green beans need2slin, hcgenerate 2 super enzymes
2.5 hrs later- 30 grms casein shake with eponox 1 hr later 3 zma
I'm 5-10 237 lbs (up 4 lbs last 3 weeks) bout 15% bf.. Seemed to drop a little bf last 3 wks also..wrkout 6 times a wk
Mon chest tues arms ( bis and tris). Wed legs thurs back fri shouldrs sat off sun chest tris mon back bis and so on.
Chest wrkout example (I switch up exercises etc. all the time
Incline bench wrmup 2 sets 175, 205
4 working sets from 225 to 305 starting with 12 reps pyramyding down to 7 or 8 reps
Flat bench hammerstrength 5 sets from 225 to 345 all in 8- 12 rep range (previous max bench was 465 when I weighed 30 more lbs) now I concentrate on contracting muscle more than huge weight.
Weighted bench dips 4 sets to failure
Incline db flyes from 45s up to 75s 8- 14 rep range
Cable crosses 5- 7 sets from 30s up to 90s for 8-14 reps per.
This is an example of a chest workout which I do switch everything up a lot
Mon chest tues arms ( bis and tris). Wed legs thurs back fri shouldrs sat off sun chest tris mon back bis and so on.
Chest wrkout example (I switch up exercises etc. all the time
Incline bench wrmup 2 sets 175, 205
4 working sets from 225 to 305 starting with 12 reps pyramyding down to 7 or 8 reps
Flat bench hammerstrength 5 sets from 225 to 345 all in 8- 12 rep range (previous max bench was 465 when I weighed 30 more lbs) now I concentrate on contracting muscle more than huge weight.
Weighted bench dips 4 sets to failure
Incline db flyes from 45s up to 75s 8- 14 rep range
Cable crosses 5- 7 sets from 30s up to 90s for 8-14 reps per.
This is an example of a chest workout which I do switch everything up a lot
lol that was hard to read. looks pretty decent to me though...don't sound like a noob. Should start seeing strength gains at least in week 3-4 and I usually see really noticable results on longer ester in week 5-6. You sound pretty experienced if you've benched 465 though.
How many cycles have you ran?
How many cycles have you ran?
Sust is a longer esther so it might take alittle longer...i usually suggest kickstarting for quicker results but youll like the results you get on this!
Thanks for the replies. Sorry it was so hard to read. I've been lifting for bout 15 years bit pretty hardcore last 7 or 8. Did a dbol only cycle when I was young and stupid but the last three or four years I've done 5 or 6 pretty strong ph cycles. I have alot of experience gaining and losing weight. Bout 7 years ago I went from a sloppy 225 to 165 with 6% bf. More recently I went from 210 to 256 over an eight month period with 2 short ph cycles last year. I'm more comfortable at the weight I'm at now but this is my first pinning cycle
Yeah bro...I was just thinking to myself that who am I to give advice to you because I've never even came close to benching 465. But I've never been much over 210 either.
With that being said, you definately shouldn't be using tren, IMO, on your first injectable cycle. You'd see some great gains with a test only cycle or with an oral thrown in at some point.
Yeah I researched this cycle for a full year and I really wanted to stay away from the tren. I went to a "guru" to set up a test, equipoise, anavar cycle but got the sust and tren e kinda pushed on me I think cuz that's what his guy had that day and I must admit I was too impatient and said screw it. I'm still waitng on some ancillaries but have been using forma while I'm waiting on the rest. Haven't had any sides yet except the acne ( fingers crossed)
