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You are plat, do a little searching around the forum. You'll find a lot of people had good results with it. I am about to finish my cycle in 2 weeks. I am planning on running a bottle of regular derma for 4 weeks and then running a bottle of sustain with a bottle of post cycle after that. I have nolvadex on hand but I'd rather go the derma/sustain route first because I don't want the sides from nolvadex. I will post up in 2 and a half months with my blood test results.
 
Do A search on dermacrine sustain to. That was its name before we switched it to sustain alpha. Yes bro its the real deal and works for every one.
 
Yes tons of good posts on it. I'm going with PCT Dermactine and Post PCT Sustain Alpha

Post PCT haha such a thing? (I guess now that theres sustain alpha and Dermacrine)

I have it sitting on my counter at home ready to go
 
Excellent product bro. I originally started using it for P C T, now I am actually going to continue use simply for the effect it had on my mood/personality. Seriously might have saved my relationship. Try it bro, you won't be disappointed.
 
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RearNaked said:
Excellent product bro. I originally started using it for P C T, now I am actually going to continue use simply for the effect it had on my mood/personality. Seriously might have saved my relationship. Try it bro, you won't be disappointed.
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LOL ya you gotta go "marinate in your anti-grouch goo" right?
 
juicyjuice85 said:
Is this sustain alpha stuff actually any good for PCT - post cycle therapy - ?
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It works wonders but make sure you use H.C.G during cycle. Clomid and low dose a-dex during pc.t

The Sustain Alpha will add to those greatly giving you an energized feeling.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
LOL ya you gotta go "marinate in your anti-grouch goo" right?
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LOL...ya thats right! My girl says it best juicyjuice, if I wake up on the wrong side of the bed she simply tells me "I think someone needs to go marinade in their anti-grouch solution" LMAO!!
 
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Nice. So are both products used for PCT - Post Cycle Therapy - or do you use one while on a cycle and then the other when your off?
 
TBD 21 said:
Nice. So are both products used for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - Post Cycle Therapy - or do you use one while on a cycle and then the other when your off?
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You want to use Sustain Alpha for PCT. (recommended to be stacked with Toco-8)

Dermacrine can be used during the cycle, or as a good cycle finisher because it clears very fast. So if your finishing with a long ester like enanthate or cypionate, which take a few weeks to clear from the last shot, then you could run Dermacrine up until the day you are ready for PCT.

-Pp
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
You are plat, do a little searching around the forum. You'll find a lot of people had good results with it. I am about to finish my cycle in 2 weeks. I am planning on running a bottle of regular derma for 4 weeks and then running a bottle of sustain with a bottle of post cycle after that. I have nolvadex on hand but I'd rather go the derma/sustain route first because I don't want the sides from nolvadex. I will post up in 2 and a half months with my blood test results.
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exactly, I like keeping my eyesight personally..
 
SpyWizard said:
exactly, I like keeping my eyesight personally..
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What does eyesight have to do with that quote?

It's clomid that gives blurry vision to some people not nolva.
 
Primordial Performance said:
You want to use Sustain Alpha for PCT. (recommended to be stacked with Toco-8)

Dermacrine can be used during the cycle, or as a good cycle finisher because it clears very fast. So if your finishing with a long ester like enanthate or cypionate, which take a few weeks to clear from the last shot, then you could run Dermacrine up until the day you are ready for PCT.

-Pp
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Thanks for your help sounds good to me. If you have anymore advice i would be glad to hear it as i will be be starting my cycle this up coming week.
 
Primordial Performance said:
You want to use Sustain Alpha for PCT. (recommended to be stacked with Toco-8)

Dermacrine can be used during the cycle, or as a good cycle finisher because it clears very fast. So if your finishing with a long ester like enanthate or cypionate, which take a few weeks to clear from the last shot, then you could run Dermacrine up until the day you are ready for PCT.

-Pp
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i've personally done this

works AMAZING, got stronger, leaner, bigger. kept it all after PC.T as well

that's what happens when you keep gains lean and gradual...and finish RIGHT

TBD PM me if you want details bro, i'd be happy to help :)
 
Primordial Performance said:
We are releasing "EndoAmp" next week, which will be the completion of the PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - stack - Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, EndoAmp (Phosphatidylserine)

You can read this for more info -

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...rum/new-post-cycle-therapy-2008-a-582357.html

-Pp
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Thanks for the help bro. If you could send me any codes to save me some bucks on my orders it would be gladly appreciated . Also, if your products do work i will help spread the word. :)
 
I finished a cycle end of December. Did Sustain right after up until the beginning of February. Kept every ounce of muscle and strength went up but not as much while on. Didnt change weight or bodyfat. Since I stopped sustain I've dropped 9 pounds and bodyfat has stayed the same while strength has also dropped a little.
What does this mean?
Sustain WORKS!!!!
I will now do Sustain during all my off time!
 
bottomline577 said:
I finished a cycle end of December. Did Sustain right after up until the beginning of February. Kept every ounce of muscle and strength went up but not as much while on. Didnt change weight or bodyfat. Since I stopped sustain I've dropped 9 pounds and bodyfat has stayed the same while strength has also dropped a little.
What does this mean?
Sustain WORKS!!!!
I will now do Sustain during all my off time!
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Sounds good. Thanks for sharing your experience. So now the question is is it safe to stay on Sustain for longer then just one bottle. Also, Should you "ween" yourself off a Sustain like gear to help ease your body back to normal?
 
TBD 21 said:
Sounds good. Thanks for sharing your experience. So now the question is is it safe to stay on Sustain for longer then just one bottle. Also, Should you "ween" yourself off a Sustain like gear to help ease your body back to normal?
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Yes, you can stay on Sustain for as long as you like, but I perfer to go 1 month, then take a couple weeks off, then go another month, ect (helps you feel the positive effects more)

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, you can stay on Sustain for as long as you like, but I perfer to go 1 month, then take a couple weeks off, then go another month, ect (helps you feel the positive effects more)

-Pp
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sounds good :chomp:
 
Primordial Performance said:
We are releasing "EndoAmp" next week, which will be the completion of the PCT - post cycle therapy - stack - Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, EndoAmp (Phosphatidylserine)

You can read this for more info -

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...rum/new-post-cycle-therapy-2008-a-582357.html

-Pp
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What percentage of active Phosphatidylserine will your product have? How many mg/dose? How many doses? How much will it cost?

PS is expensive at the doses you have to take for it to be effective. 60 pills for $30 (or more), with 100mg actual PS. 10 pills/day 6 days = $6.00/day.

Hopefully you've found a way to do this cheaper than that.


There are ways to lower cortisol naturally, by getting plenty of sleep and getting to bed early (unlike me now). Switch to a low to moderate carb diet and only take extra (LOW GI) carbs when you NEED them (of course you still take your high GI carbs immediately after w/o - which actually will help lower cortisol). Eat regularly (don't skip meals or wait too long to eat). Don't overtrain. And, relax bitches...use meditation or yoga or whatever works for you to chill the fuck out.

There are also supps like PS, Vit. C (a study showed Russian athletes I believe who took like a gram of C before and after workouts showed lower cortisol levels), Glutamine (some studies have shown it to reduce cort.), Acetyl-L Carnitine (shown in study in humans to reduce cort. and rats to elevate LH).

Some companies produce herbal blends that have a variety of herbs believed to lower cort. packed into a pill. I've seen these priced at around $1/day, effectively.
 
We will have very affordable PS, with probably a months serving for less than $50. (800mg/day)

-Pp

ceo said:
What percentage of active Phosphatidylserine will your product have? How many mg/dose? How many doses? How much will it cost?

PS is expensive at the doses you have to take for it to be effective. 60 pills for $30 (or more), with 100mg actual PS. 10 pills/day 6 days = $6.00/day.

Hopefully you've found a way to do this cheaper than that.


There are ways to lower cortisol naturally, by getting plenty of sleep and getting to bed early (unlike me now). Switch to a low to moderate carb diet and only take extra (LOW GI) carbs when you NEED them (of course you still take your high GI carbs immediately after w/o - which actually will help lower cortisol). Eat regularly (don't skip meals or wait too long to eat). Don't overtrain. And, relax bitches...use meditation or yoga or whatever works for you to chill the fuck out.

There are also supps like PS, Vit. C (a study showed Russian athletes I believe who took like a gram of C before and after workouts showed lower cortisol levels), Glutamine (some studies have shown it to reduce cort.), Acetyl-L Carnitine (shown in study in humans to reduce cort. and rats to elevate lh - leutenizing hormone - ).

Some companies produce herbal blends that have a variety of herbs believed to lower cort. packed into a pill. I've seen these priced at around $1/day, effectively.
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Primordial Performance said:
We will have very affordable PS, with probably a months serving for less than $50. (800mg/day)

-Pp
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Months serving less then 50 bucks with 800mg/day sounds like a good product yet again.
 
TBD 21 said:
Months serving less then 50 bucks with 800mg/day sounds like a good product yet again.
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Less than half the price of some of the lower priced capsule forms I've seen.

@ 800mg, about $4/day vs PP's at $1.67/day.

PP, is it a transdermal delivery as well?
 
ceo said:
Less than half the price of some of the lower priced capsule forms I've seen.

@ 800mg, about $4/day vs PP's at $1.67/day.

PP, is it a transdermal delivery as well?
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It will be an oral powder, that will taste like sweet churned butter, hmm...

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
It will be an oral powder, that will taste like sweet churned butter, hmm...

-Pp
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PP you are a very good bro. The products you are coming out with are cutting edge and no one is doing what you are. Thanks for looking out for all the good juicers out here in EF land.
 
Primordial Performance said:
It will be an oral powder, that will taste like sweet churned butter, hmm...

-Pp
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lmao. sounds nasty. Can I get raspberry flavor instead?
 
ya I don't know about drinking a nice "churned butter" shake lol
 
needtogetaas said:
Stop being a baby and drink eat that shit up. I bet you have downed worse.
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well, right now I am drinking a liquid egg white (cooked, but liquid) and chocolate whey protein shake with lime flavored omega 3-6-9 blend of fish, flax, borage, and olive oils. So, a chocolate, egg white, lime flavored protein shake. But, I like it. Yum!

I try to avoid foods/drinks that taste bad to me. :)
 
2 weeks after my10 wk cycle i started w/ nolvadex. strength went down, felt shitty. week 3 i started sustain alpha w/ nolva. strength went back up to juice levels. no lie. f'n weird. been on it a week and a half. I'm still a little bit in disbelief. i really feel good about this off cycle. weird, wasn't expecting it. Needto, I'm a believer man........
 
bluetoolpaul said:
2 weeks after my10 wk cycle i started w/ nolvadex. strength went down, felt shitty. week 3 i started sustain alpha w/ Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . strength went back up to juice levels. no lie. f'n weird. been on it a week and a half. I'm still a little bit in disbelief. i really feel good about this off cycle. weird, wasn't expecting it. Needto, I'm a believer man........
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Thats awesome bro.

-Pp
 
RearNaked said:
LOL...ya thats right! My girl says it best juicyjuice, if I wake up on the wrong side of the bed she simply tells me "I think someone needs to go marinade in their anti-grouch solution" LMAO!!
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Solid! She's got a good sense of humor to match (I assume that is her in the pic?) great looks. Hey, it's a cheap price to pay if it truly helped save your relationship.
 
Ask needto or swole about running regular derma on cycle. They love it. Sustain for p.c.t.
 
BTW, both Dermacrine & Sustain Alpha should be in stock sometime this week... so everyone with back-orders please hold in there. Your order will be shipped ASAP.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
BTW, both Dermacrine & Sustain Alpha should be in stock sometime this week... so everyone with back-orders please hold in there. Your order will be shipped ASAP.

-Pp
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about to put in an order hopefully enough for me :evil:
 
Primordial Performance said:
Been out of stock for the past 3 weeks on Sustain bros, sorry about this for those waiting on their order.... but we finaly got it back.

-Pp
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So when are they going out? been waiting for more than 3 weeks...:(
 
OK....I am VERY interested in knowing if something like this can help my situation. 2 1/2 years ago I did a long Deca cycle, followed by HCG, and botched my PCT like an idiot (basically I did not do a PCT). I was left w/ all the worst Deca sides, NO libido, ED, LOW test, low LH, FSH, etc......BTW I'm only 33.


I have not touched any AAS since then (over 2 1/2 years) and my test has slowly risen from 108 to around 400-499 range....However I still have some ED and WEAK libido, low LH, FSH, etc. I've simply been giving it time to come back around, but it's been very long and I need to start making some decisions because I have simply NOT recovered properly.


Can something like this help jump start my HPTA and get my LH, FSH, natty test going again ?? I was perfectly fine before my stupid Deca cycle and my libido was VERY strong, almost out of control. Could these products actually help my body to get back what it lost nearly 3 years ago ? I'm just trying to explore ALL avenues before resorting to lifelong Testosterone Replacement Therapy which is for life. Is there hope and what exactly is in this stuff ? THANKS !
 
MADBALL99 said:
OK....I am VERY interested in knowing if something like this can help my situation. 2 1/2 years ago I did a long Deca cycle, followed by HCG, and botched my PCT like an idiot (basically I did not do a PCT). I was left w/ all the worst Deca sides, NO libido, ED, LOW test, low LH, FSH, etc......BTW I'm only 33.


I have not touched any AAS since then (over 2 1/2 years) and my test has slowly risen from 108 to around 400-499 range....However I still have some ED and WEAK libido, low LH, FSH, etc. I've simply been giving it time to come back around, but it's been very long and I need to start making some decisions because I have simply NOT recovered properly.


Can something like this help jump start my HPTA and get my LH, FSH, natty test going again ?? I was perfectly fine before my stupid Deca cycle and my libido was VERY strong, almost out of control. Could these products actually help my body to get back what it lost nearly 3 years ago ? I'm just trying to explore ALL avenues before resorting to lifelong Testosterone Replacement Therapy which is for life. Is there hope and what exactly is in this stuff ? THANKS !
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I just replied to you in this thread -

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ete-testosterone-recovery-stack-587141-5.html

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Its a holiday today... so the rest of the backorders should be shipping tomorrow.

-Pp
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Praise the lord lol... can't wait to try out the Sustain! BTW, your DERMACRINE is nuts. I love the stuff. I'm so upset I didn't try it sooner. Absolutely amazing... workouts are on point (big pumps) and my libido is like being a teenager all over again!
 
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