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Has anyone had any experience with vetinary anavar? I've been reading up on it and the company I plan to get seems legit. But I'm curious if there is something that is different. From my searches all I've found is that human pharmacy products are made with higher standards and more sterile conditions. Anyone have any problems with vetinary anavar ( oxavet qv ) since anavar is so expensive?
 
i would say stay the hell away from the juice at this point.you have plenty of time bro just eat,train,sleep,and shit. :chomp:
 
funny, I dont remember him asking if he should do the cycle, just asking advice on running it, so some of you really need to get down off your soapbox and if you cant answer the question, leave him alone. If he wants to run a cycle, instead of telling him he shouldnt, how about helping him do it right
This board is full of people that shouldnt be anywhere near gear as they look like they have never seen a gym, yet they give advice like a pro
 
needsize said:
funny, I dont remember him asking if he should do the cycle, just asking advice on running it, so some of you really need to get down off your soapbox and if you cant answer the question, leave him alone. If he wants to run a cycle, instead of telling him he shouldnt, how about helping him do it right
This board is full of people that shouldnt be anywhere near gear as they look like they have never seen a gym, yet they give advice like a pro


soo true
 
well i said what i said in hope he would change his mind and maybe rethink
doing the sauce at this point in his life.but i guess your right if he is gonna do it any way might as well help him.
 
personally I waited 10 years and had been at my genetic limit for 3 years before i did my first cycle, but that was my values and the way I did it, so that doesnt mean I should push that on anyone else...
And you really cant go by his stats to say whether or not he is ready to juice. After 10 years of serious training I was only 180lbs at 7-8% bf, just uner 5'9", so according to most people on here I wasnt ready either, but I would happily compare my natural pics to their juiced ones anytime
 
needsize said:
personally I waited 10 years and had been at my genetic limit for 3 years before i did my first cycle, but that was my values and the way I did it, so that doesnt mean I should push that on anyone else...
And you really cant go by his stats to say whether or not he is ready to juice. After 10 years of serious training I was only 180lbs at 7-8% bf, just uner 5'9", so according to most people on here I wasnt ready either, but I would happily compare my natural pics to their juiced ones anytime

I can certainly repect the fact that you waited that long to start, and having seen your natural pics, I can honestly say you had one of the more impressive builds I've seen on a natural bodybuilder, however most guys are not going to wait that long, and I was abotu 205 at 15% when I did my first cycle (it was a cutting cycle of primo/winstrol/clen) with about one year of training.

On the other hand, guys who are 150 or 160 lbs who juice... is absolutely redicutlous. Its absolutely amazing when you hear about someone who has done a cycle or two and weighs 160 lbs or who says they only bench 275 for a couple of reps. Come on guys. Spend some time on the training and diet forums before you do a cycle. Had I known 3 years ago what I know now about nutrition, training and steroids I would be alot farther along than I am now. There is just no excuss for doing a some of these stacks when you could easly gain another 30 lbs of muscle naturally, in very short period of time.
 
needsize said:
personally I waited 10 years and had been at my genetic limit for 3 years before i did my first cycle, but that was my values and the way I did it, so that doesnt mean I should push that on anyone else...
And you really cant go by his stats to say whether or not he is ready to juice. After 10 years of serious training I was only 180lbs at 7-8% bf, just uner 5'9", so according to most people on here I wasnt ready either, but I would happily compare my natural pics to their juiced ones anytime

I completly agree with everyone who responded in the thread that said that I should wait. I couldn't agree more. It sounds like what you did was the best thing to do. If I had time I would do the same thing. Unfortinately, I'm going for football-not bodybuilding. The problem is the time is now for me to get big as possible. My family simply doesn't have to money to get me through school, and have 3 more kids yet to go through. The thing is I need the strength ASAP. I feel that this will help me get what i want. There's prob nothing that will talk me out of it, for better or for worse ( prob worse)Thanks for everyone's warnings for my future health, but, ufortinately, like eminem said..." If it's gonna happen, it's gotta happen now."

Since I plan on doing a cycle this summer how does test and var sound.
40/mg or 50/mg. Like everyone said i only weigh 143 lbs (presently) but when I eat consistantly about 155 lbs. Does this qualify me for 400 mg/ week of test or 500/mg? Also, I'll take a nolvadex ( which i hear is the most popular anti-e) and then clomid for 3 weeks after the cycle. Does anyone see me doing anything wrong with the cycle, or am i simply wrong in taking the test with var? My big thing is strength. 80% strength-20% bulk. Any suggestions or comments?
 
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