Sust, dbol and ? for next cycle

[hardrock]

Ok guys here's the deal. I am 26 yrs old. 6'1" tall 243lbs @ around 12-14% bf. This will be my 7th cycle. My last consisted of 800 mg test enan for 12 weeks, 60 mg dbol/day first 6 weeks. Eq at 600 mg wk for 12 weeks. and 75 mg tren ED wks 7-15. Liquidex all the way through. I quit my cycle 2 mos ago and ended up keeping about 15 lbs and with less fat then when I started. Here is what I have so far for my cycle starting sometime in Dec.


Week -----------------sust-----------------dbol--------------tren
1----------------------1000-------------------50------------------0
2-----------------------750---------------------50-----------------0
3-----------------------750--------------------50-----------------0
4-----------------------750---------------------50------------------0
5------------------------750--------------------50-----------------0
6-----------------------750-----------------------0-------------------75
7------------------------750-----------------------0-----------------75
8------------------------750---------------------0-------------------75
9-----------------------500-----------------------0------------------75
10----------------------250-----------------------0-----------------75
11----------------------250--------------------0--------------------75
12----------------------250--------------------0--------------------75
13-----------------------0-------------------------0------------------75
14-----------------------0--------------------------0-----------------75
15------------------------0-------------------------0------------------75

Running liquidex or femara all the way. Followed by proper post cycle therapy.


Now I already have all the gear for this, but am considering changing some things. I am thinking of either extending fina for another 5 weeks or dropping it all together for some deca. I really don't care too much about gaining a little fat either. I have really been thinking about running a long cycle too, say 20-25 weeks. Not really sure what I want to do yet. Just kicking around some ideas.

 

[hardrock]

Bump for the night.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

that is similar to what i am thinking of doing next. just that i am adding in EQ......maybe you can add in some too if you are looking to add something. for some reason i don't seem to have the urge to use deca though (i had thought of sust/deca/dbol/tren myself). A 25 week cycle would be cool though. i did winny/anavar/dbol/femara/arimidex/proviron and things like T3/clen/NYC/Bromo (not all these together, but at different times) for the last 20 weeks or so. so its cool to not have to come off for a long while. your probably better off to just run the tren for longer if you really want the 20 week plus cycle....and i'd add in EQ if i were you instead of deca. maybe run the EQ from week 10 through week twenty-whatever you end it on, and also extend the tren to week twenty-whatever.

 

[raider2124]

Why the tapering of the Sust? Also do not run the Tren any longer do to the fact you would have no test supporting it after week 15. If you want to replace the tren with deca I think it is a good idea. Weeks 1-12 ofcourse. Besides test I do not like cycling with the same drugs one cycle after another. I have found better results with switching it up. The only other thing would be add some Winny or Primo to the end of your cycle to solidify your gains.

 

[jc21]

i figure you want the deca for good anabolic muscle gains....so why not keep the fina and run eq instead of deca. or just run the deca with it and see how you react. i have ran deca and fina together with no problem. if you have a problem you can stop the fina and the sides should stop right away. i mean progesterone induced gyno sides.

 

[hardrock]

The main reason I haven't included EQ is that would be the exact cycle I ran last time. I have decided to scrap the test tapering, thought it might help post cycle? What if I were to run everything as planned and maybe add winny. Where would the winny be best placed?

 

[hardrock]

What about deca first half. Fina and winny second half?

 

[hardrock]

Bump

 

[jc21]

What about deca first half. Fina and winny second half?

that sounds good...but you wanna be careful about caring the deca into the fina. maybe do the fina for the first 5 weeks and then switch to deca.

 

[hardrock]

that sounds good...but you wanna be careful about caring the deca into the fina. maybe do the fina for the first 5 weeks and then switch to deca.

Ok. I still have some work to do here, but thanx for the idea. I can run winny and deca together right?

 

[DOGGY]

Maybe consider Durabolin vs true deca, in and out faster if necassary.

 

[Wrongun]

I am a great believer in keeping it simple and hear what you say about Decca but for a straight mass cycle then you can not really beat IMHO:


Wks 1-4 Dbol @ 35mg ED
Wks 1-8 Sus @ 500mg EW
Wks 1-8 Decca @ 400mg EW

Here the Decca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.
Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 14 -- 21 days after your last Decca jab. Preferred dosages are 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10 days and 50mg last 10 days (21 days in total). You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen at 10mg ED
The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life.
The SUS and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

Obviously the dosages can be increased to say 750mg Sus and 600mg Decca (so you shoot 3 times a week with 250mg SUS and 200mg Decca 3amps sus and 3 vials Norma Decca EW).
You could look at Winny at the end and maybe clen / e/c/a pre, during and post Clomid therapy

Wrongun!

 

[hardrock]

Thanx wrongun. As of right now I am planning on doing what you said, but extending to 12 weeks.

Thanx guys for all the input!

 

[Wrongun]

hardrock i would buy for 12 weeks but evaluate after 10. If youa re still gaining then continue if not then stop. I have run for 12 and got excellent results (used winny ~@ 50mg ED for last 4 weeks and did clen and e/c/a pre, during and post clomid as well).

Wrongun!

 

[Citruscide]

I read through your cycle... I'd watch running the fina for too long, what you have doesn't seem to be overboard... but I would add some winny. Fina and winstrol is the most synergetic combination out there.

If you were going to drop the fina altogether... I'd always defer to my good buddy EQ. I simply love that shit, can't afford it now, but I love it with test....

C-ditty

 

[hardrock]

If I were to run fina/winny for second half of cycle should I continue test throughout?