sus deca winny cycle

[Dark Raver]

dark raver can you please explain your reasoning for using clomid while his last shot of sust will still be active?......I'd really like to hear this...you do know that sust is a self tapering steroid containing 4 different esters of testosterone that will release over a 3 week period right?

Sustanons longes acting ester, testosterone decanoate, has a halflife of 6-7 days, therefore the total halflife of all the 4 esters can not be longer than 6-7 days. The combined halflife of the four esters is around 4-5 days.

Testosterone Phenylpropionate - 1 day
Testosterone Propionate - 3-4 days
Testosterone Isocaporate 5-6
Testosterone Decanoate 6-7 days

Actualy, deca (nandrolone decanoate) has a longer halflife than sustanon, about 6-7 days.

So why did people think that sustanon was active for 4 weeks? Simply because Organon wanted to make doctors belive that one injection of 250 mg per month was sufficient to sustain even blod-levels. As most of you know, sustanon is used for treatment of some illnesses. Administrating sustanon only once per month is cheaper and more confortable, supposedly.

 

[therealj]

Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month

please shut-up now

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Nice post J

M18

 

[Dark Raver]

Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month

please shut-up now

You really are an ignorant bastard. The only way you can make sustanon be in your system for a whole 4 weeks, is to inject 1000 mg on day 1. On day 28 there will only be 10 mg, i.e. 1% of the injected dosage of 1000 mg.

In this perticular case, we are talking about weekly injections of only 250 mg, thus the level of sustanon in your blood will decrease much more rapidly.

AND: a reason for starting the clomid one week after the last injection, is that clomid has anti-estrogenic properties, and will help reduce the risk of gyno and other estrogen induced side-effects.

Get it now, retard?

 

[bissenmir]

what about clen and hcg?

 

[therealj]

well since we've resorted to name calling RETARD...I never suggested clomid therapy after 28 days I suggested it after 21 days....in case you failed to notice both steroids that will be used in this cycle contain the Decanoate ester and while your own stubbornness will not allow you to accept the facts.....starting clomid while the sust/deca are still actively releasing in the bloodstream will not allow your body to restore normal H-P-T-A function...and regarding your use of clomid as an anti-estrogen well that shows an even greater lack of knowledge on you part...why would this only be necessary post cycle? wouldn't estrogen be a concern throughout the cycle and why would one use clomid as and anti-estrogen when nolvadex/proviron/and arimidex are all highly more effective?

 

[therealj]

c'mon dark raver....you're not done are you?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Dark Raver,you've been misinformed.The undecanoate ester in sustanon has an activity life of around 24 days...

 

[mike001]

Dark Raver,
i hate people like you that come on here , flame people, and call names and shit! PISSES ME OFF!!!
and i wouldnt drop the winstrol.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

therealj, I think you won this one

M18