sus deca winny cycle

[hard as a rock]

This will be my first cycle, wanting to know what would be the best way to run a cycle of these 3?
sus,deca, winny.
i was thinking
sus @ 250 /8weeks
deca @200/8 weeks
winny@ 50ed from weeks 4-10
clomid at the end @ 50mgs/ day for the first week and 100mgs /day the next week
Does this look OK to you guys?
If i drop the winny is it still a good stack?

 

[Dark Raver]

drop the winny. run the clomid at 50 mg ed. for 4 weeks.

Wk*Sust**Deca**Clomid
-1 250 mg 200 mg
-2 250 mg 200 mg
-3 250 mg 200 mg
-4 250 mg 200 mg
-5 250 mg 200 mg
-6 250 mg 200 mg
-7 250 mg 200 mg
-8 250 mg 200 mg
-9 ************ 50 mg ed.
10 ************ 50 mg ed.
11 ************ 50 mg ed.
12 ************ 50 mg ed.

yeah.

 

[ghans]

I have found best results with 500mg sust and 400mg deca per week. Eat well and lots of protien.

 

[Dark Raver]

it's just his first cycle. he does not need 500 mg test and 400 mg deca. save some for next cycle!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I would do this
Sust at 500mg/week for weeks 1-10
Deca at 300-400mg/week for weeks 1-10
Winny at 50mg/Day for weeks 5-10
Clomid starting 3 weeks after your last shot. Good Luck!

M18

 

[therealj]

250mg of sust every 5 days weeks 1-8
300mg of deca weeks 1-8
50mg of winny eod weeks 4-10

start clomid in week 11 at 100mg ed for one week followed by 50mg ed for two more weeks

 

[hard as a rock]

bump

 

[therealj]

no need to bump listen to what mustang and I said and you'll be fine

 

[Dark Raver]

do not listen to theese guys. go with...

Wk*Sust**Deca**Clomid
-1 250 mg 200 mg
-2 250 mg 200 mg
-3 250 mg 200 mg
-4 250 mg 200 mg
-5 250 mg 200 mg
-6 250 mg 200 mg
-7 250 mg 200 mg
-8 250 mg 200 mg
-9 ************ 50 mg ed.
10 ************ 50 mg ed.
11 ************ 50 mg ed.
12 ************ 50 mg ed.

yeah.

 

[therealj]

dark raver can you please explain your reasoning for using clomid while his last shot of sust will still be active?......I'd really like to hear this...you do know that sust is a self tapering steroid containing 4 different esters of testosterone that will release over a 3 week period right?

 

[Dark Raver]

dark raver can you please explain your reasoning for using clomid while his last shot of sust will still be active?......I'd really like to hear this...you do know that sust is a self tapering steroid containing 4 different esters of testosterone that will release over a 3 week period right?

Sustanons longes acting ester, testosterone decanoate, has a halflife of 6-7 days, therefore the total halflife of all the 4 esters can not be longer than 6-7 days. The combined halflife of the four esters is around 4-5 days.

Testosterone Phenylpropionate - 1 day
Testosterone Propionate - 3-4 days
Testosterone Isocaporate 5-6
Testosterone Decanoate 6-7 days

Actualy, deca (nandrolone decanoate) has a longer halflife than sustanon, about 6-7 days.

So why did people think that sustanon was active for 4 weeks? Simply because Organon wanted to make doctors belive that one injection of 250 mg per month was sufficient to sustain even blod-levels. As most of you know, sustanon is used for treatment of some illnesses. Administrating sustanon only once per month is cheaper and more confortable, supposedly.

 

[therealj]

Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month

please shut-up now

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Nice post J

M18

 

[Dark Raver]

Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month

please shut-up now

You really are an ignorant bastard. The only way you can make sustanon be in your system for a whole 4 weeks, is to inject 1000 mg on day 1. On day 28 there will only be 10 mg, i.e. 1% of the injected dosage of 1000 mg.

In this perticular case, we are talking about weekly injections of only 250 mg, thus the level of sustanon in your blood will decrease much more rapidly.

AND: a reason for starting the clomid one week after the last injection, is that clomid has anti-estrogenic properties, and will help reduce the risk of gyno and other estrogen induced side-effects.

Get it now, retard?

 

[bissenmir]

what about clen and hcg?

 

[therealj]

well since we've resorted to name calling RETARD...I never suggested clomid therapy after 28 days I suggested it after 21 days....in case you failed to notice both steroids that will be used in this cycle contain the Decanoate ester and while your own stubbornness will not allow you to accept the facts.....starting clomid while the sust/deca are still actively releasing in the bloodstream will not allow your body to restore normal H-P-T-A function...and regarding your use of clomid as an anti-estrogen well that shows an even greater lack of knowledge on you part...why would this only be necessary post cycle? wouldn't estrogen be a concern throughout the cycle and why would one use clomid as and anti-estrogen when nolvadex/proviron/and arimidex are all highly more effective?

 

[therealj]

c'mon dark raver....you're not done are you?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Dark Raver,you've been misinformed.The undecanoate ester in sustanon has an activity life of around 24 days...

 

[mike001]

Dark Raver,
i hate people like you that come on here , flame people, and call names and shit! PISSES ME OFF!!!
and i wouldnt drop the winstrol.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

therealj, I think you won this one

M18

 

[JayisCrazy]

I think that "therealj" is more correct here! There are a few things in the above posts that are incorrect. Actually HUCK...although you were correct about Test. Undecanoate having a half live of about 18 days, Undecanoate actually doesn't exist in Sust-250. Sust-250 typically contains testosterone propionate 30mg (3 days); testosterone phenylpropionate 60mg (1 day); testosterone isocaproate 60mg (7 days); and testosterone decanoate 100mg (7 days).
If you took only one shot of 1cc Sust-250 this is how you get your "ONE MONTH" in your system:
Week 1 - 237mgs
Week 2 - 76mgs
Week 3 - 24mgs
Week 4 - 7mgs
Week 5 - 2mgs
Week 6 - 0mgs
Hope this helps.
Ps. If I were the guy starting this post and seeing as it is his 1st cycle, I would run the Sust at 500 and Deca at 300 for weeks 1-2 and weeks 3-8 run the Sust at 250 and the Deca at 300. Like the boys have said above wait 2 weeks or so before starting the Clomid.
Cheers,
Jay

 

[kid]

dude, doing the same cycle right now and it is my first. i am doing 500 mgs sus/week and 200 mgs deca/wk. throwing in primo's wks. 5-12 and winny weeks 6-12. i also have clomid and nolv. so far so good. strenght is up and staying trim. i have no bloat, acne or any other sides so far.

 

[hard as a rock]

thanks fellas