Sus and Winny cycle/ some advice please.

[jp123]

I am half way through my third week of a sus and winny cycle:

Week 1- 250 sus
week 2- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 3- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 4- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 5- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 6- 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 7- 50mg winstrol depot eod

This is my first cycle. My stats are 5'10 189 pounds. I started at 178 but I have been training and eating a min of 3500 calories ed. Any advice would really help me out. I have been reading everybody else's posts everyday for weeks, I just finally stopped being cheap and baught a membership. Thanks for the help....

 

[MUSTANG_18]

What kind of advice are you looking for bro ? It sounds like your doing pretty good to me, and off some very moderate doses. Keep at it

M18

 

[jp123]

should I increase the sus to maybe 6 or 7 weeks and extend the winny 2weeks as well. I guess I am asking this because I am half way through and I feel like I could use a bit more. (Oh and I do know how to spell bought)

 

[GetBig10]

yeah run the sust 1-10 weeks... yeah im pretty sure u can increase the winny 2 weeks...go for it bro

 

[Vascular Freak]

You are running such a low dose that I would run the sustanon for atleast 8 weeks and run the winstrol till week 9 which will give you a little overlap while the test clears the system, then start PCT.

Also I would bump the winstrol to 50mg ed to actually notice any benfits from the winstrol. The test dosage is good for a first cycle.

 

[X Man]

def run the sust out ten weeks and running the winny right along side it.

i assumer since ur doing 50mgs eod its inject? i would st\witch to 50mgs ed if i had the orals.


cycle looks good to blow up and get shredded as well.


how clean is that 3500 cals diet?

 

[needtogetaas]

one thing I have seen on this site is the first recamanded cycle is allways high.500mg or more.lol

my first cycle 8 years ago was like 300mg deca a week and I got grate gains from it.

youre first cycle dos not need to be much at all.

 

[jp123]

My 3500 calories are pretty clean.

meal one: XXX gain/ 1000 calorie shake 8 grams of fat 20 grams of sugar

meal two: Chicken breast brown rice and beans

meal three: Chicken breast, brown rice, avacado

meal four: Muscle milk

meal five: post workout- muscle milk

meal six: Chicken or fish w/ brown rice and vegies.

I have definetly lost some body fat, and already have everyone at work asking me why I am wearing children's clothing.(time for some new shirts)

My only problem has to be the fact that I am feeling like a stabbing victim w the eod winny. Isnt staying on winny for 9 weeks pretty hard on the liver?

 

[X Man]

so ur shooting the winny?

i would run the winny and the test for 8 weeks and end it there... but 10 weeks would be better... nething over 12 is unneccesary IMHO

 

[jp123]

Should I start drinking it?

 

[X Man]

well yeah.... i would... do u not have acess to caps?

 

[jp123]

I already bought the Zambons. Would oral tabs be better. What about my liver?

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

My 3500 calories are pretty clean.

meal one: XXX gain/ 1000 calorie shake 8 grams of fat 20 grams of sugar

meal two: Chicken breast brown rice and beans

meal three: Chicken breast, brown rice, avacado

meal four: Muscle milk

meal five: post workout- muscle milk

meal six: Chicken or fish w/ brown rice and vegies.

I have definetly lost some body fat, and already have everyone at work asking me why I am wearing children's clothing.(time for some new shirts)

My only problem has to be the fact that I am feeling like a stabbing victim w the eod winny. Isnt staying on winny for 9 weeks pretty hard on the liver?

Meal 1 - isn't too bad
Meal 2 & 3 are pretty decent...
Meal 4 - I would replace with regular whey protein, with some berries, and oats thrown in...
Meal 5 - I would switch to an isolate whey gainer shake... ISOGainer works great for me.... 3 scoops gives you 60g protein and 88 grams or so of carbs.. the iso will get into your muscles more quickly... Muscle milk (esp. with all the fat) takes longer
Meal 6 - take the rice out, and just double or better yet triple the veg...

Drink lotsa water, and stay on point... I just did a 100mg/EOD of PROP with 50mg/EOD of winny (Zambons) cycle... and things went great... not a huge amount of gear.. I went up 12lbs, and got leaner... more vascular...

 

[jp123]

how long was the cycle. I don't know if I want to stay on the winny for 9 weeks.

 

[jp123]

changed the cycle:
orinal:
Week 1- 250 sus
week 2- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 3- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 4- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 5- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 6- 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 7- 50mg winstrol depot eod

New:
Week 1- 250 sus
week 2- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 3- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 4- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 5- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 6- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 7- 250 sus 50mg winstrol depot eod
week 8- 50mg eod

clomid for pct and milk thisle. for the liver. Is that enough?

 

[MercinMadZootedG]

Howd the cycle end up workin out ?

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Yea... I'm guilty for the old thread bump as well... it's likely that he did a search for specific cycles... (prolly winny related) and replied without checking...

Happens to the best of us...