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[twiz]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

 

[stuck]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

4 weeks is a good run, since dbol is used to kickstart a test cycle. Most people subscribe to the X weeks on, X weeks off theory. So if you wait 4 weeks you should be fine.

50mg on your first run is a big dose, I'd suggest knocking that down to 30mg/day. Your revised cycle looks good, you may even consider dropping the dbol altogether.

Not all of us are are in our 20's.

I assume you have all the PCT stuff, liver protectants, etc.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

i would not think so not in-less you sit on the couch all day and eat shit food and dont train what is your diet like gyno problems. 6-weeks would be tops for me. i am sure some of the vets will chime in. bump!!!!!

 

[drrman]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

hell yeh bro...you can juice in your 40's! we'll be glad to help ya out my friend!

question 3 there looks like a very nice cycle, maybe a little high of a dosage on the dball, maybe 35mg/day for 4-5 weeks to jumpstart the cycle. the test at 500mg/week looks very good. you need to get you some nolvadex to have on hand in case gyno starts in, and also some other kind of AI to help keep the bloat off of you. AIFM seems popular or aromasin, either one of those would be a good idea to take throughout the entire cycle.

and when you finish the cycle you will need some post cycle therapy, at your age i don't think this will be any different from anyone else, but macro, ulter, x or some others are more knowledgable on PCT than I am. But you will need clomid and probably some HCG, all of this is easily obtainable.

next thing you need is to make sure your diet is in line, TONS Of protein and make sure you eat enough. but that could be another post/question in of itself.

Good luck with this bro....

 

[taoiron]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

What’s up bro…

The dbol test e cycle looks fine. I usually limit dbol usage to the first 4 weeks. I do however generally run 2 (or more) injectables.

40’s are not an issue as long as you are taking good care of yourself. Make sure you take care in regards to blood pressure and cholesterol levels and keep your cycles @ 10-12 weeks. I started 2 years ago at age 36 and am doing great!!

You can’t imagine the cash I spent on supplements that promised steroid like results but never delivered. When I stepped to the dark side, I made more gains in mass in 10 weeks than I did the entire year prior.. With proper PCT, diet and training you can keep 70-80% of the gains you make while on.

Good luck and keep us posted,

Tao


PS Good first post

 

[steelmass]

Buy some AIFM/aromasin for estrogen problems.

 

[Mr.X]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

1) Keep the dbol for your next cycle.

2) see 1

3) I like the cycle, but you only need 20mgs of dbol ED if you have 500mgs of test going.

20MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks
1 mg arimidex ED 1-6
.5mgs arimidex ED 7-10

PCT: Nolvadex and clomid

4) Most users take steroids when they don't need to, that's why you see so many guys on here asking about winny cycles and weight loss at 20. If you don't have 5-10 years training under your belt, and if you're not over 24-25; you have no business using AS.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

AIFM seems popular or aromasin.

.

both of these are better choices than arimidex, particularly if you are using dbol

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

both of these are better choices than arimidex, particularly if you are using dbol

Go with Aromasin, best one out there in my opinion..

 

[toxicsambo]

For some info on HCG and Nolva mid-cycle in extended cycles, and PCT
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=376177

I wouldnt go over 30mg of Dbol.
If youre on 10 weeks, I'd wait 2 months before my next cycle.
I would do HCG and Nolva at week 5 for only 1 week.
At your age, you should have "mature" muscle, given that you exercise. Your natty test levels have dropped and youll benefit tremendously from a proper cycle.
The aromasin will prevent you from looking like a puffer fish and the possible onset of gyno.

I think you'll be a'ok bro. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[slat1]

Study up on PCT like mentioned above. It will be the best thing you ever did for yourself!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Go with Aromasin, best one out there in my opinion..

you should give AIFM a try, think you will find it comparable or superior (and quite easy on the wallet )

 

[thelion2005]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

There are quite a number of people here over 40, men and women. You can see some of their posts in the Longevity forum.

I hope you read the Newbie stickies at the top of the page. There is a lot of info there.

1. dbol is great at any age. Just protect your liver and associated cholesterol values. No reason you can't use for as long as 8 weeks.

2. You'll want at least a 6 week break and recovery. You'll want to learn and do pct.

3. That cycle will make you more massive and a bit bloated. You'll feel terrific. Think about reducing the dbol dosage depending on your blood testing results. Add an anti-esto to the mix. Read up on arimidex. (Stickie Report Card.)

4.No such thing as bad. You just have a responsibility to your body to be reasonable and responsible. HRT is the use of aas and HGH. More and more men over 40 do and will do this forever.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

all decent advice. except the report card. its pretty much completely innaccurate. Dex is among the worst choices for anyone that actually has any kind of estro issues

 

[Stacemranger]

all decent advice. except the report card. its pretty much completely innaccurate. Dex is among the worst choices for anyone that actually has any kind of estro issues

I agree to a point here in my case. With dbol, dex could barely hold off the bloat. Keep in mind though, I was taking 80mg ED. When I stopped the dbol and just had the test, I cut the dex from 1mg ED to .5mg ED and it is working just fine now. I think what anti-e you choose depends on what drug you are using at the time and of course, personal preference.

 

[RADAR]

Hey everyone, love reading all your posts and I have a few questions. Wealth of knowledge you all have is incredible.

I screwed up in starting my first ever cycle. As this was the first time I ever did this I was taking dbol only 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Well I had some gains about 12lbs, I know i did wrong. After enjoying all your posts I am going to take the leap and add injections next i think.

Stats: 6'3", 221lbs, and Just turned 40 on May 1st.

#1 - I have read that everyone says to only take dbol for like 4 weeks. I still have another 2 month suppy. I have not experienced any side effects and have had great pumps and gains I now know i will lose.

#2 - Based on a four week use already, how long before I can take dbol again ?

#3 - I thought that for my next try i would do the following:
50MG Dbol ed for 1-6 weeks
500 Test E weekly for 1-10 weeks

#4 - Also, is it smart at my age to even try this stuff. Most of you seem to still be in 20's and I was wondering if it is bad at older ages to do.

Thanks for your help

Age doesn't matter,as long as you are sensible about it! I'm 54
# 3 looks good!
RADAR

 

[Prizz]

I'm 35yrs old..... Did my 1st cycle at age 22..... At age 30, I had a serious illness, and was on life support for a few weeks..... I then had to go into a physical Rehab hospital for 8 weeks, to learn how to walk again, and recondition my muscles...... I didn't start lifting again till age 34, and I gotta say, the gains I get now in my 30's are FAR SUPERIOR to when I was in my 20's..... Not sure what it is, but I'm not the only person that has seen this..... So, your age is fine bro, don't worry..... It's the guys in their early 20's that shouldn't be using AAS, but it's hard to convince them of that..... I know I wouldn't have listened when I was that age.....

rizz

 

[thelion2005]

all decent advice. except the report card. its pretty much completely innaccurate. Dex is among the worst choices for anyone that actually has any kind of estro issues

I'm really disappointed in the "Report Card". A lot of people have relied on it because it gives the impression as being authoritative from EF.

If arimidex is a bad choice, I'm sure going to look into something different and better, like AIFM. Should make for a lively discussion with the Docs at U of Mich hospital who are prescribing arimidex.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

dex is not a bad drug, its well suited (perhaps not best, but well suited) in many cases. for men using aromatic steroids its not particularly effective, except in people who could go without an AI.

its good (though not necessarily the best) for less agressive breast cancers, men on mild hrt, obese men.

if you already have gyno or oestrogenic issues and are taking D-bol and/or significant amounts of test etc.. its probably not what you need.