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Supps for Weak Ligaments

Y_lifter

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OK, I badly strained my MCL(Medial Collateral Ligament) in my Knee a few years back and they told me it would likely be susceptible to injury forever.

2 Months ago I strained it again and it is still sore and has kept me sidelined from working Legs.
My Legs are starting to look like FroRiders did... lol

I'm looking for Suggestions for Supps that will Strengthen the Ligaments.
I know low weight high reps are good, but I want to kick them in the Butt..

I'm leaving for the day, so I'll check back tomorrow a.m. for the dozens of great posts.
FAT JUICY Y_Lifter Karma for all..


thanks
 
the sups board might turn up a bit more so maybe post there as well

but these have been what have helped me

1) glucosamine

:D

its worked for me
 
I don't see why you should have a bad MCL forever. After all, professional atheletes sprain their MCLs all the time and are out on the field with no problems. You can either get it surgically repaired or look on the internet for some good excersises and movements that can strengthen the ligaments.

I'm only aware of supps that target the joints, not ligaments.
 
This is a formula that I put together after some relatively involved research.

10 gr hyrdolized collagen
2000 mg chondroitin sulfate
1500 mg glucosamine sulfate (make sure it is sulfate, not HCL)
1000 mg niacinamide

The first 3 items can be taken in 1x/day dosing as they have long half-lives. The last item is ideally taken 4x/day.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
This is a formula that I put together after some relatively involved research.

10 gr hyrdolized collagen
2000 mg chondroitin sulfate
1500 mg glucosamine sulfate (make sure it is sulfate, not HCL)
1000 mg niacinamide

The first 3 items can be taken in 1x/day dosing as they have long half-lives. The last item is ideally taken 4x/day.

Did you look into MSM as well? Or MSM with glucosamine? Or are those more joint related as NB said?
 
Thanks for the posts. And yes I did get the PM. Thanks

Apparently the MCL heals very well 90% of the time unless it is severely torn or ruptured. It just takes months.

Also several Knee sources including my Internist and Rhumatologist have told me that after a bad strain the Ligament is typically not as strong as before.

I would imagine athletes that strain the Calateral Ligaments do not do so severely. Other wise, believe me, they would not be running or maybe walking too well in a week.

Others ?
 
gymtime said:


Did you look into MSM as well? Or MSM with glucosamine? Or are those more joint related as NB said?

Yeah, I looked into MSM. It is essentially expensive aspirin with little to no healing properties. The above stack has some anti-inflammatory action and utilizes several biological pathways to heal injuries.
 
Y_Lifter said:
Thanks for the posts. And yes I did get the PM. Thanks

Apparently the MCL heals very well 90% of the time unless it is severely torn or ruptured. It just takes months.

Also several Knee sources including my Internist and Rhumatologist have told me that after a bad strain the Ligament is typically not as strong as before.

I would imagine athletes that strain the Calateral Ligaments do not do so severely. Other wise, believe me, they would not be running or maybe walking too well in a week.

Others ?

Seriously, listen to me on the above formula, I put a lot of work into dredging the info on it; combine it with deca too if that's an option. Just train smart on it while on.
 
Interesting article on Ligaments Vs Muscle Strains..

http://www.sportsprolo.com/does_r_i_c_e_prevent_sports_injuries_from_healing.htm


For the weekend athlete, the most common injuries suffered are sprains: an injury to the connective tissues that hold bones together (ligaments), and strains, an injury to connective tissues that hold muscle to bone (tendons). Sprains and strains can be caused by an acute injury such as a "sprained" ankle, or by long-term repetitious movement, such as that found in "tennis elbow."

Customarily sprains and strains are treated with RICE: Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation, in order to immobilize the injured area and decrease swelling. This is beneficial in the short-term as RICE is effective in reducing pain. However, continual injury and long-term use of the RICE method as a remedy, can produce impairments in the natural healing process that can lead to chronic and disabling pain, and the individual's inability to enjoy an active participation in sports.

Inflammation is the immune system’s response to an injury and is a necessary component of proper healing. When an injury occurs, inflammatory cells circulating in the blood rush to the affected area in an attempt to repair and minimize the damage quickly. The RICE treatment decreases blood circulation thereby preventing the immune cells from getting to the injury site. By this suppression of the immune system reaction, continuous RICE application leads to injuries that do not heal and a chronic weakened condition in the injured area that is easily susceptible to re-injury.

Another and considered better approach to sports injuries is MEAT - Movement, Exercise, Analgesics, and Treatment. While immobility is detrimental to ligament and tendon healing, movement is beneficial. Movement and gentle range-of-motion exercises improve blood flow to the area. With better circulation, there is better healing. If the movement is too painful initially, then isometric exercise involving the contraction of muscle without movement of the affected joint can be performed with equal benefit.

Natural analgesics or pain relievers such as bromelaine, trypsin, and papain aid in healing injuries by increasing nutrient delivery to the injured site as well as removing the debris of damaged tissues, reducing the swelling or edema.

The T in Meat stands for specific treatments that increase blood flow and immune cell migration to the damaged area. This includes physical therapy, massage, ultrasound, chiropractic care, and Prolotherapy.

The goal of a health professional in treating a chronic sport related injury should not be the alleviation of pain, but the restoration of the ligaments and tendons to their normal pre-injury strength. Unfortunately most athletes are treated by clinicians who provide pain relief in the form of Ibuprofen, aspirin, cortisone shots, and surgery. While these therapies meet the goal of providing pain relief in the short-term, they do so at the expense of continually weakening the ligaments and tendons, and the eventual loss of the individual's ability to participate in their chosen sports. Prolotherapy can bring the athlete back to full strength without surgery, drugs, or other pain suppressants.

Prolotherapy, because it triggers the growth of normal collagen, or connective tissue, not only allows the athlete to return to sports actively, but often the area that was injured will be stronger than before the injury and the athlete's performance will be enhanced.

Generally Prolotherapy treatments are given once a month to allow time for the growth of the new connective tissue. Patients normally require four to six treatments for complete recovery.

Injured athletes will want to return to their golf or tennis game or other activities as quickly as possible. In this case Prolotherapy injections are sometimes given on a weekly basis, or a stronger solution is used to speed the healing process. This is not the ideal situation however. The preferred regime is for the patient to receive Prolotherapy treatments in the off-season to allow complete strengthening
 
The Nature Boy said:
you also might want to try an ART practicioner. www.artdoc.com

it's a different kind of treatment for sports injuries, you can search for one in your area.

ART isn't bad -- if you do it, just go to Dr. Michael Leahy, the founder, in Golden Springs. I drove in for a couple days and had 3 or 4 treatments on my hamstring. After having gone through it, I think you could derive the same benefit by scheduling a deep tissue massage back-to-back with a chriropractic appointment. BTW, Leahy is housed in the same building as T-mag -- I ran into Charles Polquin one day on my way out...
 
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