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Supplements to help sleep at night - Melatonin?

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What do people take to help sleep at night when you end up taking drinks/supplements with caffeine during the day whether its coffee/energy drinks/pre-workout supplements/etc.

If I take anything with caffeine before I train in the afternoon it keeps me up sometimes.


Anyone tried Melatonin?
 
melatonin is great but the only downside is that the more you use it, the more the body responds and doses keep needing to be raised.

This happens in relatively short space of time. I started on 5mg (which is high) and then went on to 7.5, then 10...

I had to stop it because I would have ended up using crazy high doses.

Now I am using periactin or benadryl
 
melatonin is great but the only downside is that the more you use it, the more the body responds and doses keep needing to be raised.

This happens in relatively short space of time. I started on 5mg (which is high) and then went on to 7.5, then 10...

I had to stop it because I would have ended up using crazy high doses.

Now I am using periactin or benadryl

Thank god need2sleep has a lot more then melatonin in it. The meli in need2sleep is there to help people get normal levels of it. Other ingredents aid with relaxing and putting you to sleep.
 
What do people take to help sleep at night when you end up taking drinks/supplements with caffeine during the day whether its coffee/energy drinks/pre-workout supplements/etc.

If I take anything with caffeine before I train in the afternoon it keeps me up sometimes.


Anyone tried Melatonin?

I do like Melatonin,,,3mg before bed.
 
I've used Melatonin for years and have never needed to up the dosage. SleepMd is a good one as well but I wouldn't buy it again because of the price. ZMA knocks me the hell out as well. I might have to try need2sleep as well after I check the ingredients list.
 
I've used Melatonin for years and have never needed to up the dosage. SleepMd is a good one as well but I wouldn't buy it again because of the price. ZMA knocks me the hell out as well. I might have to try need2sleep as well after I check the ingredients list.

I am so happy with this product. You people will be noticing that needto is no longer on late at night anymore. I will however be on nice and early though.

My sleep aid has been helping me get to sleep now and if nothing else it was well worth making it just for that. The hell with the rest of you guys lolol

Ok last part was a joke. You guys know I love you all.
 
I am so happy with this product. You people will be noticing that needto is no longer on late at night anymore. I will however be on nice and early though.

My sleep aid has been helping me get to sleep now and if nothing else it was well worth making it just for that. The hell with the rest of you guys lolol

Ok last part was a joke. You guys know I love you all.

I'm looking forward to this. It should be here tomorrow with your ultra fast shipping!!!
 
I'm looking forward to this. It should be here tomorrow with your ultra fast shipping!!!

Not going to lie to you bro. It did not ship out till today. I had to wait to get my labels as there was a little mix up. I shipped it 2 day shipping though so it will get to you before the week end. :biggrin:
 
It's all good bro.

I know it will get here. You can't beat free shipping.

I haven't took GABA in a while. Does the GABA in Need2Sleep give you that strange feeling as it kicks in. I like that feeling :biggrin:
 
It's all good bro.

I know it will get here. You can't beat free shipping.

I haven't took GABA in a while. Does the GABA in Need2Sleep give you that strange feeling as it kicks in. I like that feeling :biggrin:

It has no gaba in it bro. But Valerian root has a large effect on gaba though.
 
I'm surprised ZMA isn't included in the ingredients list as well. That shit knocks me out and gives me some crazy ass dreams! Needto this may be a stupid question but do you own a supplement manufacturer or what?
 
I'm surprised ZMA isn't included in the ingredients list as well. That shit knocks me out and gives me some crazy ass dreams! Needto this may be a stupid question but do you own a supplement manufacturer or what?

I do not own a manufacturer bro. I just happen to be real good friends with one of the best in the business :biggrin:
He makes all my products for me. So I get the best and most pure compounds at prices that most of the time only the huge companies can get them.

This is how I am able to offer such bad ass products at such cheap prices even though I just got started.

Guys the sleep aid I have will work and work damn good. I knwo because I been using it for a week now and been getting the best sleep I been getting in a long time.
 
L-Tryptophan (500mg-1g)
Valerian Root or Valerian Root extract
Melatonin (3-9mg)

Kava also works.

Benadryl (Diphenhydramine HCL) works almost guaranteed but shouldnt be used every day due to its anticholinergenic effects.
 
The effect of NSAIDs such as aspirin, ibuprofen, and acetaminophen on muscle growth.

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If you are one of the many people who take a few Advil aspirin,or any other NSAID after a workout or in the days following to alleviate muscle soreness, think again! There is recent research that conclusively shows that taking NSAIDs after exercise-induced muscle damage significantly reduces levels of the prostaglandin, PGF2-α, which is intimately involved in the protein synthesis that occurs post-exercise; we work out, tear down our muscles, and the anabolic process of tissue repair and hypertrophy is dependent on levels of this prostaglandin.(1,2). It has been known for some time that maximal, prescription-level doses of NSAIDs will inhibit skeletal muscle protein synthesis, as the study in reference (2) below was performed in 1982. Most of these studies, however, utilized in-vitro systems where cultured myocytes were exposed to a stretch-stimulus to induce tissue damage and then protein synthesis was measured with-and without the presence of a high concentration of NSAID. As those of us in the field of pharmacology have (painfully) witnessed time-and time again, in-vitro systems are rarely representative of what actually occurs in-vivo. Because of this the notion that NSAID use after a workout might decrease muscular gains was passed off as an artifact of the experimental systems used; and not representative of what somebody would experience when taking over the counter doses of NSAIDs.

A group in 2001, however, using eccentric contractions in human subjects to induce muscle damage, showed that post-exercise NSAID use drastically reduced the increase in protein synthesis normally seen in response to muscle damage. This study is relevant to real workouts because the researchers used a model for muscle damage that is very similar to what what happens during a normal weight training workout and the doses of NSAIDs used in the study were normal therapeutic doses, not unlike those that most people would take for a headache or after a tough workout for soreness.(3) The results of this study were that, in the untreated subjects, post-exercise muscle protein synthesis (24 hours post-workout) increased in upwards of 76%, while subjects that received either acetaminophen or ibuprofen saw no significant increase at all. The implications of this study are huge; if you are into taking a few Advil after a tough workout to alleviate soreness, think again; you may be severely hindering your progress.

It is important to know the mechanism behind such a phenomena because it may be possible that we can use this to our advantage. NSAIDs inhibit the enzyme COX-1 and COX-2, which basically take a common substrate, arachidonic acid, and through a cascade of biochemical reactions create a number of prostaglandins. Some Prostaglandins cause inflammation and are largely responsible for the pain response we get after a workout. Reducing prostaglandin synthesis by inhibiting the COX enzyme can reduce pain and inflammation, but at the same time reduction of the specific prostaglandin, PGF2-α has a dramatic effect on the ability of muscles to hypertrophy(2,4). Intuitively, this makes sense, because inflammation is intimately involved with the healing process. Although there are certainly situations when reducing inflammation is beneficial, after a weight training workout is clearly not one of them.

The pathway is outlined below and as you can see, inhibiting COX will have the effect of reducing PGF2-α, inhibiting the ever-so-important protein synthesis that occurs to repair the muscle and allow it to hypertrophy. So there you have it, convincing evidence that NSAIDs after a workout inhibit muscle gains. The next question you may ask is: How can we use this to our advantage? (i.e. by somehow increasing PGF2-α levels). Glad you asked! This will be coming in a future post; sign up for our feed or to receive posts by email to get this cutting edge info as soon as it is published. Until then, keep training hard and continuing to learn; the day you think you know it all is the day that you stop making gains.



Need2sleep is 22 for a 2 1/2 month supply of a speel product that is deff going to help you sleep.
 
How many hours of sleep do you need once you take the need2sleep? I took 2 melatonins (6mg) and it knocked me out for 9 hours.

Also, do you feel groggy/drowsy in the morning? Benadryl makes me feel that way.
 
I'm surprised ZMA isn't included in the ingredients list as well. That shit knocks me out and gives me some crazy ass dreams! Needto this may be a stupid question but do you own a supplement manufacturer or what?


He has a good contact that he works with to get us the best.
 
How many hours of sleep do you need once you take the need2sleep? I took 2 melatonins (6mg) and it knocked me out for 9 hours.

Also, do you feel groggy/drowsy in the morning? Benadryl makes me feel that way.

I haven't personally tried it but have tried all the ingredients in it and they shouldn't make you drowsy in the morning. If melatonin makes you drowsy then why would you ask? Personally I've been taking melatonin or years and it's never made me drowsy.
 
How many hours of sleep do you need once you take the need2sleep? I took 2 melatonins (6mg) and it knocked me out for 9 hours.

Also, do you feel groggy/drowsy in the morning? Benadryl makes me feel that way.

I never wake up feeling shitty bro. I have got 6-9 hours after using this and always wake up feeling great.
 
Here in th Uk we have a product called Nytol which I've used, it's non addictive and sounds like Need To Sleep.
The problem with some products is once you start taking them and they begin to work you can't not take them
or you don't sleep. Can be very addictive, try a herbal one first.

Brad
 
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