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[Nelson Montana]

so what would you reccomend for me who cares about strength and keeping size. I will be doing hcg, and clomid plus hgh 2 iu per day. I know you work with supplements and what not, so what do you think?

ZMA is just zinc. You can buy it at the drug store for three bucks.

Tribulus is not very effective. MyogenX has been shown to increase LH much better. Worth trying along with HCG.

Not familiar with Dermacrine sustain but heard good reports.

Strength and keeping size and keeping gains? Keep it simple.

This one for strength and size. http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=145&cat=0&page=1


This one to help PCT.http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=110&cat=0&page=1


There are other options of course. But just like with gear, get a feel for what's working and how much you need. Then, if you want to branch out, you know which way to go.

 

[rfowler]

ZMA is just zinc. You can buy it at the drug store for three bucks.

Tribulus is not very effective. MyogenX has been shown to increase LH much better. Worth trying along with HCG.

Not familiar with Dermacrine sustain but heard good reports.

Strength and keeping size and keeping gains? Keep it simple.

This one for strength and size. http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=145&cat=0&page=1


This one to help PCT.http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=110&cat=0&page=1


There are other options of course. But just like with gear, get a feel for what's working and how much you need. Then, if you want to branch out, you know which way to go.

Ok I like the big blast and post cycle actually looks great. so how would this sound for a nice pct nelson,

wk 1 500mcg hcg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk2 clomid 50 mg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk3 clomid 100mg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk4clomid 50mg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk 5
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
done.

 

[rfowler]

Bro, I hear you on this. I can't tell you a lot yet because I am not there yet. I know that I have always strugled with pct. I have the usual clomid, a-dex, etc for just in case the more "natural" stuff that is around does not work. I never feel well on clomid, that is for sure! I get very depressed and shit.

So, I am not trying to blow smoke, I am just conversing with you.

I have purchased the Derma sustain. I have also order unleashed and post cycle, like I stated.

I do have clomid, and hcg.

Oh I know your not blowing smoke bro. Dont worry I know you are a solid bro who provides honest feedback and opinions. I am going to go with dermacrine sustain, big blast, post cycle, and zip, I may try unleashed as well.

 

[SpyWizard]

Myogenx is the shit, i can vouch for that.. ever do a var only cycle/?? get back pumps from that..

MyogenX has a ver similar effect.. Did i say i like this product??

 

[rfowler]

Myogenx is the shit, i can vouch for that.. ever do a var only cycle/?? get back pumps from that..

MyogenX has a ver similar effect.. Did i say i like this product??

you got a link for it?

 

[sofakingdel]

bump

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok I like the big blast and post cycle actually looks great. so how would this sound for a nice pct nelson,

wk 1 500mcg hcg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk2 clomid 50 mg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk3 clomid 100mg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk4clomid 50mg ed
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
wk 5
post cycle supplement ed
big blast ed
zip ed
dermacrine sustain ed
done.

That actually looks pretty good.

 

[rfowler]

That actually looks pretty good.

would adding unleashed be overkill?

 

[needtogetaas]

I'm in currently what I believe to be by far my best PCT yet... I ran HCG at the end of my cycle, then started with Derma (both the original and the new Sustain). I'm also running Tribex Gold and ZMA... before my workouts, I take Red Blast... it's "ok"... definitely keeps you alert and focused, but nothing earth-shattering... I also take amino's (especially glutamine) before and after workouts and at bedtime, flax oil at night and extra creatine (Purecee) after my workouts. I think this is a nice effective combo of supplements.

I would have to go with this also.I have used dermacrin and fucking loved it.going to use it again and again to.http://www.primordialperformance.com/

 

[Nelson Montana]

would adding unleashed be overkill?

No, because it works differently. UNLEASHED lowers SHBG which in turn increases free testosterone. The reason it works whereas other BS test boosters don't is because it doesn't attempt raise total test (which I don't believe is possible without drugs) but it makes what you have more bioavailable. Obviously, that can be helpful anytime -- natty, on cycle and PC. Having more available test is always better.