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Suggestions on this long cycle...

rugger

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First off, for those that remember the beating I took about some OLD pics I posted-I will be posting new ones this evening or tomorrow at the latest-guaranteed. That will be fun especially after Retibol, THAI pic, ghbuilder, conan, and others-what awesome acts to follow-I will be NO comparison, but I am no Fred Flintstone (that was funny).

Now, the following I plan to start in Sept or Oct. I should be around 220 (5'10") and 10% when I start.
The goal of the cycle will obviously be to pack on some serious muscle then cut excess fat gained from a bulking diet, while adding a few more quality pounds-hopefully I will get no higher than 15%BF.

What I want is advice/suggestions regarding support-clomid, nolva, proviron, supplementation...
What do you think about it as is?
What would you change?
Should I add provirion thru the first 10 weeks?
Nolvadex only as needed or scheduled dose?
I have plenty of HCG, suggestions (no you can't have it)?
Should I drop the anavar to less?

MilkThistle, CHECK.
Gluco/condroit, CHECK.
Cranberry, CHECK.
ECA incorporated with the clen, CHECK.
Protein 250-350/day, CHECK.
Liver test, CHECK.
???

Thanks for your knowledge and suggestions in advance.

Rugger
 
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What a fiasco, had to hard restart...

It was only 700,000 bytes too many in the previous format, maybe this one will work, if no then I'll post a URL.
 
Hey bro, your gonna be shut down for a long time. Correct me if im wrong, but using clomid in the middle of the cycle wont help you. I would take at LEAST a month off before you hit the winny/anavar.
 
I agree with Suspension, using Clomid in the middle of the cycle will not do anything, presence of Winny will not let your HPTA recover.
If you take some time off between two halves of the cycle or if you don't care much about HPTA recovery, well, then the cycle looks great!
 
OK

Thanks guys.
SO, let's say I keep the clomid and clen where they are and I bump the start of winny and anavar to week 18 and repeat the same clomid therapy at the end?

Should I schedule the nolvadex or just take it as needed? I have never been prone to gyno, just water and fat retention there-never a lump, tenderness, or itching.

Proviron?
Anything else?

Thanks!
Rugger
 
Cycle does not look that bad. 11 weeks on Winny may be a liitle hard on your liver. Go with 50mg/Day for 6-8 weeks and you could run it along side the Deca and that should stop any chance of Progesterone induced gyno. Start the Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca. E-Mail or Pm me if you need any help or have any questions. Good Luck!

M18
 
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