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stupid newbie question

pudding

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I have been taking prohormones for the last four weeks. I am going to start my first cycle with dbol. Do I have to wait for my system to clean out and if I do how long should I wait.
 
I wouldn't wait, I'd just go for it. I guess it depends on which prohormones you're taking and how much. :)
 
DerekRF said:
I wouldn't wait, I'd just go for it. I guess it depends on which prohormones you're taking and how much. :)
I've been taking quite a bit. Twice the reccomended dosage.
 
I don't think this is a "stupid newbie question." From reading around it seems that a lot of people don't really know too much about prohormones. If you're in doubt, take some clomid for two weeks w/nolva and you will be SURE that you're ready.
 
DerekRF said:
I don't think this is a "stupid newbie question." From reading around it seems that a lot of people don't really know too much about prohormones. If you're in doubt, take some clomid for two weeks w/nolva and you will be SURE that you're ready.
thanks
 
pudding said:
I've been taking quite a bit. Twice the reccomended dosage.

You need to talk to Appex,
I remember he said in a thread how he ended up with bad sides from takin large doses of Prohormones.
One of the pros might know better but I would say you might be more likely to have gyno probs. Even sex drive probs.
talk to some of the vets
 
Treat it like you're coming off a cycle. Hit PCT then time on=time off. Then you're ready to go IMO. Too many bros end up with nothing but gyno to show from PHs
 
anthony518 said:
What pct are you going to do for a first timer's d-bol only cycle? How much are you planning on taking, how long?
both novaldex 20 mgs & proviron 25 mgs for 60 days after 7 weeks of dbol
 
DerekRF said:
I don't think this is a "stupid newbie question." From reading around it seems that a lot of people don't really know too much about prohormones. If you're in doubt, take some clomid for two weeks w/nolva and you will be SURE that you're ready.
2 weeks of clomid in no way assures that he is ready to start a cycle

listen to diamoncutcow.. time on = time off after PCT

and what did you take
 
pudding said:
both novaldex 20 mgs & proviron 25 mgs for 60 days after 7 weeks of dbol


You may want to look into running the proviron DURING the 7 weeks instead of after - it will fight off the bloat/gyno, and give you raging boners.

I beleive Proviron run after a cycle can inhibit natural test production.



Good luck,


Bluesman
 
No break between PH and dbol, when your'e going to fuck up your testosteron-prod. make sure you fuck it up good...
 
pudding said:
I have been taking prohormones for the last four weeks. I am going to start my first cycle with dbol. Do I have to wait for my system to clean out and if I do how long should I wait.

pudding, havent you had these posts before where we told you not to do a dbol only cycle? Are you gonna man up, inject some test, and do it right? Or you still scared of a needle? I would also take some time off before jumping on anything. Time on = time off.
 
Dbol is used to enhance a cycle. Not build one out of.
Throw that PH shit in the garbage. If you're really dead set on dbol only, even after everyone tells you not to do it, then just start it. Use it for 8 weeks and start your PCT.
Nolva/Proviron looks like a bodybuilding.com PCT idea. Just use Clomid and Nolva if you already have Nolva. And while you're at it, since you don't have an AI (what's an AI) you should probably take one of those nolva every day as well.
 
Ulter said:
Dbol is used to enhance a cycle. Not build one out of.
Throw that PH shit in the garbage. If you're really dead set on dbol only, even after everyone tells you not to do it, then just start it. Use it for 8 weeks and start your PCT.
Nolva/Proviron looks like a bodybuilding.com PCT idea. Just use Clomid and Nolva if you already have Nolva. And while you're at it, since you don't have an AI (what's an AI) you should probably take one of those nolva every day as well.

agreed. Dbol is to a cycle as green beans are to steak.
 
Ulter Nolva/Proviron looks like a bodybuilding.com PCT idea. [/QUOTE said:
its funny cause its true!
 
I would run test enanthate at 250mgs a week for ten weeks for a first cycle. Its very basic and lets you know how you respond to the compound. This is important because test is a great base for most cycles. You want to see how your body responds to it.
For PCT get HCG and Clomid... you will be happy that you did!
 
DerekRF said:
I don't think this is a "stupid newbie question." From reading around it seems that a lot of people don't really know too much about prohormones. If you're in doubt, take some clomid for two weeks w/nolva and you will be SURE that you're ready.
I would agree.
But what is the hurry? A gap of 4 weeks would not greatly effect your life plans. It may be worth the additional gains. You only live once.
 
dogoftheday said:
I would agree.
But what is the hurry? A gap of 4 weeks would not greatly effect your life plans. It may be worth the additional gains. You only live once.


Absolutely, like most things, rushing into steroids when you're not prepared or not ready is not a good idea. But, Spring Break is coming soon and you know how that goes......LET'S GET HUGE QUICK!
 
I am a neophyte on this board and have some questions...What is pct? Is it what you take to keep from having testosterone become estrogen? Why the proviron during the cycle? And what exactly is AI???? I hate to drag you guys down with ignorant questions, but I am looking to educated myself as much as possible before I take the plunge. Any good references would be appreciated. Thanks
 
Many people here has a lot of good knowledge, maybe obtained from the internet but very few of them have worked person to person and I have seen to many people person to person making their first short cycle only D-Bol with very GREAT results......In fact all my clients who have started to use gear all have had very good results with only D-bol in their first short cycle.
 
rgd said:
I am a neophyte on this board and have some questions...What is pct? Is it what you take to keep from having testosterone become estrogen? Why the proviron during the cycle? And what exactly is AI???? I hate to drag you guys down with ignorant questions, but I am looking to educated myself as much as possible before I take the plunge. Any good references would be appreciated. Thanks

PCT - Post Cycle Therapy... A combination or estrogen blockers/inhibitors and compunds to restore your natural testosterone production. Drugs used include Nolvadex, HCG, Clomid etc... They are taken afer your cycle is complete.

You keep testosterone from becoming estrogen by using an "AI" or Aromatase Inhibitor... Unlike Nolvadex, which is an estrogen "blocker" an AI such as Arimidex will block the testosterone from "aromitizing" or forming into estrogen.

PCT is more important than planning your cycle...

Good Luck :)
 
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