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[ortiz34]

Started my cycle yesterday. Was supposed to be a cutter of 250 test E weekly for ten weeks along with 6 weeks of 60mgs of Anavar. Last night I decided that I was going to shoot 500mgs weekly for the first 3 weeks and then back down to 250 for the remaining 7 weeks. Too many sides for me with alot of Test (Bloat, forehead Acne(BAD!), and I'm basically as big as I want to be.

week1 500mgs Test E \Split injections
week2 500mgs Test E
week3 500mgs Test E
week4-10 250mgs Test E\split injections
Var week 7-12 60 mgs daily

Adex
Nolva
Clomid
Tylers
Stim-X
All on hand

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

so whats the question?

 

[ortiz34]

so whats the question?

LOL! Sorry bro, it's been a long day

My question basically is if anyone has ever frontloaded like this and liked it. I know it's common to frontload with prop, but not with Test E as I am doing in this situation.

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

i frontloaded my current cycle @ 750mg/Test E for the first 2wks. then continued with 500mg/Test E. that should be fine.

 

[Wulfgar]

LOL! Sorry bro, it's been a long day

My question basically is if anyone has ever frontloaded like this and liked it. I know it's common to frontload with prop, but not with Test E as I am doing in this situation.

Ive frontloaded with test E in a pinch when i didnt have any prop....i prefer prop as a rule because the time frames are simple to manage

I like to keep my time frams short though and go really heavy if Im frontloading. I.e Id probably do 250 MG Test E for 8 days in a row then follow it up with deca @ the same dosage for 8 str8 days starting on Day 5
If im pushin really hard to gain Id also load an Oral like Anadrol for the first 4 days @ a dosage of 300 mg day 1-2 250mg days 3-4

the whole cycle has a peak effectiveness period of about 12 days high androgenic activity, 4 days moderate androgenic, moderate anabolic activity, and roughly 12-14 days high anabolic activity
Ive actually run that exact cycle...gained 22 lbs in a month from it

I ran my PCT starting on Day 21(about 7 days before the AAs were clear from my system) and utilized 2 days on(.5 mg Adex 2xdaily and Clomid 50 mg 2x daily) then one day of HCG 500 mcg 4x daily 50 mg clomid 2xdaily, 30 mg Nolva

ran that from days 21-42 and retained 19 lbs of quality tissue

I am currently thinking of ways i can improve my cycles even more with the incorporation of well times GH, slin and T-3(maybe @ the beggining starting 2 weeks before the AAS phase and run a combo to day 14 of the AAS phase)


Im all about the theory, get in, hit it HARD, and get out before the sides start showing up


sorry for rambling guys, just sharing info...

 

[anabolic12]

and I'm basically as big as I want to be.

I'm confused, you stated that you are as big as you want to be.. Why the AS? Why not just keep your diet in check, keep your routines in check and just maintain?

 

[Ulter]

Ive frontloaded with test E in a pinch when i didnt have any prop....i prefer prop as a rule because the time frames are simple to manage

I like to keep my time frams short though and go really heavy if Im frontloading. I.e Id probably do 250 MG Test E for 8 days in a row then follow it up with deca @ the same dosage for 8 str8 days starting on Day 5
If im pushin really hard to gain Id also load an Oral like Anadrol for the first 4 days @ a dosage of 300 mg day 1-2 250mg days 3-4

the whole cycle has a peak effectiveness period of about 12 days high androgenic activity, 4 days moderate androgenic, moderate anabolic activity, and roughly 12-14 days high anabolic activity
Ive actually run that exact cycle...gained 22 lbs in a month from it

I ran my PCT starting on Day 21(about 7 days before the AAs were clear from my system) and utilized 2 days on(.5 mg Adex 2xdaily and Clomid 50 mg 2x daily) then one day of HCG 500 mcg 4x daily 50 mg clomid 2xdaily, 30 mg Nolva

ran that from days 21-42 and retained 19 lbs of quality tissue

I am currently thinking of ways i can improve my cycles even more with the incorporation of well times GH, slin and T-3(maybe @ the beggining starting 2 weeks before the AAS phase and run a combo to day 14 of the AAS phase)


Im all about the theory, get in, hit it HARD, and get out before the sides start showing up


sorry for rambling guys, just sharing info...

No offense but that might be the worst possible way to cycle I have ever seen. You started a cycle with test finished it before the test kicked in, then started deca and finished that before it kicked in. Then you started clomid which is used to restart your HPTA but it couldn't possibly have done that since the deca was still present. On top of using everything the wrong way you added anadrol at a dose that would bring tons of water and only used half a dose of arimidex for the whole thing.

You think gained 19 pounds of LBM in 3 weeks doing that? NO WAY. Ronnie Coleman, on full time, averages 8 pound A YEAR, at doses the blow that away. You're luck if you put on 3 pounds let alone 19.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said!

 

[Wulfgar]

No offense but that might be the worst possible way to cycle I have ever seen. You started a cycle with test finished it before the test kicked in, then started deca and finished that before it kicked in. Then you started clomid which is used to restart your HPTA but it couldn't possibly have done that since the deca was still present. On top of using everything the wrong way you added anadrol at a dose that would bring tons of water and only used half a dose of arimidex for the whole thing.

You think gained 19 pounds of LBM in 3 weeks doing that? NO WAY. Ronnie Coleman, on full time, averages 8 pound A YEAR, at doses the blow that away. You're luck if you put on 3 pounds let alone 19.

none taken..different things work for different people

the pics in my avatar think for themselves. I started using gear and bodybuilding a little over a year ago(before that I played football and was pretty fat though i was strong)
I entered my first contest weighing 223(my current Avatar)...that was last April...since then I have competed in 4 contests throughout the year and managed to come in bigger and harder in every one capping out my last show @ 250 1/4 lbs...

ive run cycles like this throughout...no AAS for longer than 4 weeks

and how can you say the drug doesnt "kick in"???
do you not realize the half lives of the drugs are in days and hours?? blood plasma levels reach certian amounts at the pinnacle of each drugs half life(IE 200 mg Test E with a Active life of 8 days reaches 200 mg @ day 4 and then tapers back down)

i cant comprehend how that can be considered anything but "kicked in"

i think alot of guys dont get the results thy want on longer cycles because by the time they have enough of the drug in thier system thier bodies have already elevated cortisol and estrogen to a point where the catabolism of those hormones equals the anabolism of the drugs they are taking

by using in brief, hard hitting cycles my body responds positively for 3 weeks or so before I even see a sign of my growth slowing down.

just my 02....not trying to push my beliefs on anyonel.....

 

[ortiz34]

I'm confused, you stated that you are as big as you want to be.. Why the AS? Why not just keep your diet in check, keep your routines in check and just maintain?

Why use AAS? Ummm.... muscle perserving on a low calorie diet aka cutter.

 

[AhMadKooL]

I do front load test on most of my cycles