Stopping steroids for a while guys

[the.gladiator1987]

Ok, so a little background on me. Im 21, 5'10", 200lbs. Pretty lean about 10-11 % BF.

Anyway I have taken probably around 20 prohormones off and on since I was 17. Oral tren was the most popular one. Im also on my third cycle of AAS. First was test/dbol/beastdrol, second was test/anadrol/masteron and 3rd (current) is test/beastdrol and finishing right now with katanadrol and dieselbolan.

Ive come a long way since freshman year in HS (95lbs) but enough is enough. I need to train better. My diet could be better. I need to focus on my health and not my size. I love AAS but I dont wanna die at an early age, or get prostate cancer at 40. I dont want to keep fuckin with my endocrine system. I dont wann keep gettin road rage at old ppl that dont know how to drive (ok, that probably wont change LOL)

Anyway guys I guess Im asking for ur support and help. I definitely could be a lot worse off but Im so thankful I have EF and have gained so much knowledge on this site the past 5 years. I am finishing my 3rd cycle right now and currently have 4 weeks left of katanadrol/Dieselbolan. Im gonna finish it up since I know its gonna be the last stuff I take for a VERY long time.

SOOO enough about that, I need to know what to do natty. What are the best supps to take that have ZERO bad health effects. I wanna take everything I could take as if I were trying to prevent cancer LOL.

 

[cuthroat]

Its to late...you already have ballz cancer. Sorry. The first year of being off juice is going to kick your ass seriously though. Was really rough on me be ready for bouts with depression, weight loss, and such.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

It is no too late. Some guys, especially young guys can recover fast. I assume yur using hcg on cycle and if you aret, yu gonna have recovery issues. start stocking up on HCGenerate and forma stanzol. Those two will aid you greatly when it comes to Hpta recovery and gym performance. Also get sustain alpha transdermal. You gonna need it. Just shoot me pms and I'll help you through this.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Its to late...you already have ballz cancer. Sorry. The first year of being off juice is going to kick your ass seriously though. Was really rough on me be ready for bouts with depression, weight loss, and such.

lol ballz cancer that should be no prob then since my nuts are raisins right now

ill try and be ready for all the bad shit im gonna experience. hopefully some natty supps and good training and a lot of food will keep me on the right track

 

[the.gladiator1987]

It is no too late. Some guys, especially young guys can recover fast. I assume yur using hcg on cycle and if you aret, yu gonna have recovery issues. start stocking up on HCGenerate and forma stanzol. Those two will aid you greatly when it comes to Hpta recovery and gym performance. Also get sustain alpha transdermal. You gonna need it. Just shoot me pms and I'll help you through this.

Hopefully i recover fast. Im taking hcg but honestly this is week 12 and i didnt start taking hcg till week 9. Im doin 250iu 2x a week but one week i only did it once.

Would you double doseHCGenerate (10 caps ED) for 4 weeks or 5 caps ED for 8 weeks? I have 2 bottles. I also have a bottle of forma sanzol, and i also got UNLEASHED/POST CYCLE, sustain alpha, and clomid.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

It's not easy at any age mentally but I think it's harder when you are younger and stop but it sounds like you have had enough and your body is telling you .


Get some blood work mate and work from there with the supps you can take .

Brad.

 

[C.K.]

Just pct hard and you shouldn't crash hard shit if I could afford it I'd stay on hcgenerate and unleashed for everrrr

 

[the.gladiator1987]

im still debating whether to do 10mg dbol for PCT. I dont wanna lose my gains

Maybe would it help if i did 10mg dbol for 4 weeks , then start PCT?

 

[C.K.]

I stay on it lol creatine and NO products help ALOT while off too

 

[twenty47]

didnt you just start your 750mg cycle recently bro? u cutting it short?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

didnt you just start your 750mg cycle recently bro? u cutting it short?

nah bro im on week 11 of it. I was gonna do 16 weeks but now im only doin 14 weeks.

IM gonna do am dbol for the first 2 weeks of pct. 10mg in the AM thats it. Ill still get bloodwork. Reason i dont wanna do it longer than that is because i wanna recover as fast as i can and dont wanna take chances. Im still takin chances with doin dbol anyway for 2 weeks, but its lesk risky imo, especially at 10mg a day.

SO I know what a good diet is, i know what you need and why you need it as far as food goes. But for supplements what are some good supps i can stay on indefinitely? So far I have:

Creatine
N2KTS
multi
fish oil

 

[babushka]

Damn that sucks brah I was hoping to see that 10mg dbol PCT log-just kidding
It is not your first time quitting steroids,is it?( throwing your ex gf sunglasses outta car)
I had that kind of thoughts before but I always keep coming back for those results.
It is impossible to quit forever-you'll come back believe me.
But I do respect your choice good luck my man

 

[Drewb]

Damn bro, you have my support. You'll do fine. Keep hitting the gym amd you will hold on to some size IMO because you arnt yet (based on your stats) to that unmantainable size.

If I can ask, what happened? Did you have a scare (bad blood test etc), don't answer if you don't want.

Total of 3 cycles and then some ph use? Always with a good pct in the past or no?

 

[Stryker1992]

Bro, I do not think it is going to be easy emotionally or physically. I think you are going to have issues as your body tries to return to homeostasis. I am not sure how long you have been using and what kind of breaks. the nice thing is you are young and that should help but on the flip starting so young has its associated disadvantages as well.

I would gues you will see anxiety, depression, weight loss, and issues with sex drive, and general energy. You are going to have to work through it.

Try creatine, bridge, phyto, and HCgenerate.

I have used all of them and no complaints. You may want to get a bottle of Erase as well.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

You should be dozing hcg at least 3 times a week man, get your testes out of atrophy now if you want to recover in less than a year

 

[C.K.]

Why are you guys all talking like he's been on for years straight??? This is his third recent cycle...

 

[wcjcMr.O]

ya im interested in the reason for the change of heart as well. why quit?

 

[Gamer2Be08]

I dont think he is permanently quitting.. Just taking a long time off. If you read his post, he practically has done about 20 cycles in 6 years? am I correct gladiator?

 

[Drewb]

Ya I missed that. 3 ass cycles and "about 20 phs" (assuming this is substances not cycles) in 4 years, that is a hell of a lot... What's that about 19 months of cycling if the ass are 12 weekers and ph are all 2 oral 4 weeks...

Lots of Orals.

 

[RickO'Shea]

Hey Glad I'm not really good at recommending PCT like advice, but If you need other advice let me know man. I got ya back 100%.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Thanks for all the comments guys, there was nothing that really scared me. Just what have I done to my body with all this shit I have taken. Its not like Ive taken insane doses, im on 750mg test right now and for dbol i did 30mg, anadrol 50mg, masteron 500mg. Always did a PCT after AAS cycles, rarely did PCT after PH cycles...

I have done about 18 prohormones (some of them stacked) and im finishing my 3rd AAS cycle. Of course all my AAS cycles included 2-3 prohormones in the mix. My liver values were fine before my 3rd AAS cycle so all the prohormones i have done had no effect on that. I always took time off, i have jus been on something consistently since i was 17. I just turned 21 so id say 5 years TOPS.

I dont really know if i should be worried? Would you guys be worried if you did that much? I dont get any side effects its crazy. Never have to take an AI even with 750mg test and 30mg dbol, never had any signs of gyno, never gain fat. But at the same time ive done my share of ecstasy and have smoked cigs on and off for 5 years. I havent smoked a cigarette in 2 weeks now.

And I do just want to take a long break. Maybe after this cycle make some goals for me to get in 2-3 years naturally. Then when I do that I can cycle again if i want to. Im really into health, my brother has his own website for alternative medicine to cancer, i used to be a personal trainer, and i feel like a hypocrite. BUT i dont notice any scary side effects that would make me wanna stop. None whatsoever, I just dont wanna have cancer at 30, or a heart attack at 35. Or be sterile at 25.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Hey Glad I'm not really good at recommending PCT like advice, but If you need other advice let me know man. I got ya back 100%.

thanks bro. still not sure on what im doing but im 21 and need to realize that my health is more important than my looks. Thank god i was blessed with a good looking face and some confidence lol.

oh and of course i have always eaten fast food, ate like shit really my whole life, but stay lean with a 6 pack. So thats even more unhealthy for me. But i know at a young age that isnt too bad. not like i dont eat my complex carbs, good fats, etc but i also eat shitty carbs and saturated fats

 

[RickO'Shea]

Health is the most important thing dude. I've had my fair share of scares.....so don't screw with it dude. Keep it real.

 

[-SD-]

what did i tell your rob. What you take from your body, your body will take from you in the end, whether you like it or not. just chill for a good while (at least a year) go natural and eat clean and train natural for a while and see where it takes you. you will soon know how much you relied on drugs for gains or not.

 

[babushka]

Is it that bald spot you got from beastdrol causing you to quit? lol

 

[-SD-]

yea i remember when i was 21 i could do whatever the fuck i wanted and i was invincible with a 6 pack.

 

[RADAR]

It is no too late. Some guys, especially young guys can recover fast. I assume yur using hcg on cycle and if you aret, yu gonna have recovery issues. start stocking up on HCGenerate and forma stanzol. Those two will aid you greatly when it comes to Hpta recovery and gym performance. Also get sustain alpha transdermal. You gonna need it. Just shoot me pms and I'll help you through this.

Listen to gamer

 

[moya]

ive always had that 'free' 6 pack like you... ate anything, never got fat...
one day it will all end... im 30 and just finished up a 20 week cycle and now 2 months post-cycle im gaining fat like i never have before...
when you come off you should definately try to work on your diet... especially since you are doing this for your health...
im was setting some natty lifting goals myself, as im still getting stronger even while off... however i may just jump on a cycle sooner because of that EF body transformation contest...

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Thanks for all the comments guys, there was nothing that really scared me. Just what have I done to my body with all this shit I have taken. Its not like Ive taken insane doses, im on 750mg test right now and for dbol i did 30mg, anadrol 50mg, masteron 500mg. Always did a PCT after AAS cycles, rarely did PCT after PH cycles...

I have done about 18 prohormones (some of them stacked) and im finishing my 3rd AAS cycle. Of course all my AAS cycles included 2-3 prohormones in the mix. My liver values were fine before my 3rd AAS cycle so all the prohormones i have done had no effect on that. I always took time off, i have jus been on something consistently since i was 17. I just turned 21 so id say 5 years TOPS.

I dont really know if i should be worried? Would you guys be worried if you did that much? I dont get any side effects its crazy. Never have to take an AI even with 750mg test and 30mg dbol, never had any signs of gyno, never gain fat. But at the same time ive done my share of ecstasy and have smoked cigs on and off for 5 years. I havent smoked a cigarette in 2 weeks now.

And I do just want to take a long break. Maybe after this cycle make some goals for me to get in 2-3 years naturally. Then when I do that I can cycle again if i want to. Im really into health, my brother has his own website for alternative medicine to cancer, i used to be a personal trainer, and i feel like a hypocrite. BUT i dont notice any scary side effects that would make me wanna stop. None whatsoever, I just dont wanna have cancer at 30, or a heart attack at 35. Or be sterile at 25.

On the real dude.
You need to be taking HCG 250iu EOD from now until start of your SERM PCT. That way, you will have near full, if not full testicular size. That will make recovery 10x easier.. Then add in your AI like forma stanzol to go along with clomid; clomid, hcg, test all raise E2, so from start of PCT, you will have high E2. Get that takeen care of with the forma, 6 pumps a day. HCGenerate, with its fadogia and testofen should get your libido high and give you some gym intensity, while raising free tests and lowering cort. Sustain alpha, will aid in heart health as well as speedy HPTA recovery, not needed, but highly recommended..


But again, get back on the HCG and take it serious.. Take PCT serious.. You wanna recover right? Wanna keep gains?
​

 

[the.gladiator1987]

On the real dude.
You need to be taking HCG 250iu EOD from now until start of your SERM PCT. That way, you will have near full, if not full testicular size. That will make recovery 10x easier.. Then add in your AI like forma stanzol to go along with clomid; clomid, hcg, test all raise E2, so from start of PCT, you will have high E2. Get that takeen care of with the forma, 6 pumps a day. HCGenerate, with its fadogia and testofen should get your libido high and give you some gym intensity, while raising free tests and lowering cort. Sustain alpha, will aid in heart health as well as speedy HPTA recovery, not needed, but highly recommended..


But again, get back on the HCG and take it serious.. Take PCT serious.. You wanna recover right? Wanna keep gains?
​

nice bro. So are u saying to take hcg until my PCT, and then take all my pct supps? (clomid/forma/sustain alpha/unleashed/post cycle)​

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I think im about to add phytoserm 347 to my PCT arsenal. how does that sound? or is it overkill

 

[the.gladiator1987]

ive always had that 'free' 6 pack like you... ate anything, never got fat...
one day it will all end... im 30 and just finished up a 20 week cycle and now 2 months post-cycle im gaining fat like i never have before...
when you come off you should definately try to work on your diet... especially since you are doing this for your health...
im was setting some natty lifting goals myself, as im still getting stronger even while off... however i may just jump on a cycle sooner because of that EF body transformation contest...

I am definitely gonna work on my diet. Im gonna come up with something really clean. Gonna take my fish oil, multi, creatine, and trying to research some different health supplements to take for stuff like heart, skin, etc.

 

[cuthroat]

if you have the money throw everything you can into it. What people don't realize here as far as I can tell from some of the posts is that even though your test lvl's may shoot back to their optimal lvls, ball size may return, etc your body has been used to that high test and you still are going to have to battle with the sides mentioned earlier: depression, weight loss, possibly sex drive issues, etc. You can't escape it all. Best of luck.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

if you have the money throw everything you can into it. What people don't realize here as far as I can tell from some of the posts is that even though your test lvl's may shoot back to their optimal lvls, ball size may return, etc your body has been used to that high test and you still are going to have to battle with the sides mentioned earlier: depression, weight loss, possibly sex drive issues, etc. You can't escape it all. Best of luck.

yea true. So im gonna do this strong PCT and get my levels tested after. And after that well see how the symptoms are doing. I should be doing better anyway if i clean up the diet as well. Im def gettin some phytoserms and adding that to my PCT. Im thinking i should extend the PCT instead of doing a large blast for 6 weeks