STEW MEAT why are you against Sustanon?

[Mudvayne]

I say ..try all 4 individual esters of test and also try sust.....pick which one works best for your personal goals....

 

[gwl9dta4]

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All testosterone is equal, but sustonon is the worst combination esters that one could use if his goal is to avoid side effects and get the most from his cycle becuase of the UNEQUAL HORMONE LEVELS. If you want to keep your levels high and even, go with enthanate, cypionate, or propinate. Don't combine them. Sustonon has its place in the medical community, but was not intended for bodybuilding.


-Stew

Well i have to say that in my post saying to try all test compunds i meant esters. It's obvious that test is not a compound. BUt different people react differently to different esters of release rates. Sicence has not yet figured out an exact way to dupicate the hormonal pulses in which all hormonal compounds are released in the humam body. We are close, but not there yet.lThere must be a reason on why some react better to longer acting esters and some to shorther esters.

I personally react much better to longer esters, and at much lower dosages. I can't see how sustanon is the worst one to use. MANY experts and sports medicine doctors will disagree with you.
Not to mention atheletes. And i am one of them, but my mind is open and maybe there is still something i do not know about test supplementation. But i know this:

I tried cypionate and enanthate, at a dosage of 400-600 mg per week and got more side effects and water gain then with 500mg sustanon. Weight gain was also more with the sust. I have never fealt the sust in my system for 2 months after the last injection as you state. 3 weeks seems to be the average. My hpta recovers very quickly after sust usage. In fact i get very little ball shrinkage with the use of sust. I do not know what to tell you, i have tried all the esters at similar dosages, with similar durations, diets training etc... And susts has always given me the most gains with the smalles dosage, the least water retention, the least ball shrinkage and the quickest recovery, not to mention a sense of well being.

So while in your opinion the Sustanon may look like a bad product on paper, to be applied to bodybuilding. It seems to work really well for some when applied in actuall sports applications.


And to comment on your last sentence, none of the test compounds were intended to be used for bodybuilding. They were all intended to be used as therapy treatment, and it's obvious that the reason for all the different esters is the different responces researches got from their patients.




Sincerely

 

[jboldman]

I say use the cheapest and

use a lot of it! <GRIN> Sust does not work? Give me a break! Physiological amounts of tests left after 8weeks off using sust? That is one long ass lasting ester! Which one would that be?

 

[gwl9dta4]

Re: I say use the cheapest and

use a lot of it! <GRIN> Sust does not work? Give me a break! Physiological amounts of tests left after 8weeks off using sust? That is one long ass lasting ester! Which one would that be?

Exactly!!!

The Decanoate ester will last for approx 3 weeks, but 8? Just don't see where. I do not thing such an ester even exists.

 

[jboldman]

oh, and btw, the last time i checked

my chem definitions(that would be about 30 years ago<grin>, test with an ester attached is a compound.